Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[fireisredsir]

i just summarized the order of events here. shea gets limmed regardless here so that wouldn't be a wise strategy for them if they were both scum.

it seemed like you were trying to make a point and last i remembered you still scumread alisae

[Klick]

Gimli gives us another check at our disposal too

I'm beginning to wonder whether there's 5 scum just because town power is really high just based on what we know so far

[redFF]

i just summarized the order of events here. shea gets limmed regardless here so that wouldn't be a wise strategy for them if they were both scum.

it seemed like you were trying to make a point and last i remembered you still scumread alisae

yea i just think its odd

[Asri Teroka]

This one suspected five?

Alisae and Shea are scum together. It's as clear as diamonds.


Firebringer.... wonky reads? This one'll ignore you for now.

[Firebringer]

That's just objectively false.

What game?

[Firebringer]

Firebringer.... wonky reads? This one'll ignore you for now.

the rudest thing u could possibly do to me

[Thestatusquo]

That's just objectively false.

What game?

the claim that you read someone right or wrong is generally tinged by confirmation bias. Even in HoD you sussed me some amount of the time. Cutoff points are arbitrary.

[Firebringer]

Gimli gives us another check at our disposal too

I'm beginning to wonder whether there's 5 scum just because town power is really high just based on what we know so far

if there isn't 5 scum, and shea is scum.
can u imagine the bitching that is going on in the scum PT about how this setup is unfair.

[Firebringer]

That's just objectively false.

What game?

the claim that you read someone right or wrong is generally tinged by confirmation bias. Even in HoD you sussed me some amount of the time. Cutoff points are arbitrary.

I don't remember sussing u ever in HoD. I had you as strong town from day 1 until end game.

[Asri Teroka]

Firebringer.... wonky reads? This one'll ignore you for now.

the rudest thing u could possibly do to me

; )

Apologies!

[Firebringer]

but hey shea if ur scum u win the argument of me not being as good as i think i am at reading u
and then i have to reanalyze my approach of reading u.
I will say the way you approach me doesnt feel like town shea
I just think the way you have approached the game to other people is town. But maybe i should actually analyze in more detail those aspects because it does feel like im taking a very superficial examination of how u been reading others and providing insight/reacting to everything else.

What do i know though. I am not that good of a player.

[Black]

What do i know though. I am not that good of a player.

Could have fooled me. You are really hard to read

[Firebringer]

I will say the way you approach me doesnt feel like town shea

To hone in on this because im a hedging motherfucker
It feels like ur approach to me is u decided i was scum and then formulated arguments around it such as 'not doing anything' and 'taking control of gamestate' and other things. I don't feel like its actively trying to sort me. Even in our engagement fights yesterday, it felt like u were trying to use that to 1v1 me and then countered by saying i was trying to 1v1. Then u did things like call me emotionally manipulating u. Which again feels manipulative of trying to get me to actually engage in the fight.

It kind of looks like u wanted to 1v1 fight to either get people to scumread me or everyone to call it a TvT fight. Which idk why you felt the need to do that last part as i think u were townread quite a bit? Maybe u were just trying to look like u were sorting

Idk i have yet to feel like ur trying to sort me this game at all.

[Firebringer]

What do i know though. I am not that good of a player.

Could have fooled me. You are really hard to read

Being hard to read doesn't equal good player lol

[Thestatusquo]

I will say the way you approach me doesnt feel like town shea

To hone in on this because im a hedging motherfucker
It feels like ur approach to me is u decided i was scum and then formulated arguments around it such as 'not doing anything' and 'taking control of gamestate' and other things. I don't feel like its actively trying to sort me. Even in our engagement fights yesterday, it felt like u were trying to use that to 1v1 me and then countered by saying i was trying to 1v1. Then u did things like call me emotionally manipulating u. Which again feels manipulative of trying to get me to actually engage in the fight.

It kind of looks like u wanted to 1v1 fight to either get people to scumread me or everyone to call it a TvT fight. Which idk why you felt the need to do that last part as i think u were townread quite a bit? Maybe u were just trying to look like u were sorting

Idk i have yet to feel like ur trying to sort me this game at all.

Why should I be actively trying to sort you when I have already sorted you and you're not doing anything that changes my mind.

[Firebringer]

i mean you don't have to do anything u don't want to do. seems more like a town shea thing to do in this game and u haven't done it at all imo

[Thestatusquo]

I reevaluate on new information. What do you think you've done that should make me reevaluate? You have even said yourself that I'm basically correct that you haven't done anything to find scum this game at all.

[Firebringer]

i don't think this is the tool u use to actually evaluate my alignment.
i think u look for my motivations in posts. u simply saying im not doing anything is a crutch argument u could always use against me in almost any game if im not 100% try harding which is rare for me to do.

[Firebringer]

How about my role claim for example, ur not evaluating that at all.

[Klick]

Even if we ignore any possibility of clearing and just go with peta's idea of finding 7 town

peta/Ari/furtive/Firebringer is all town. I think disputing these four being town is silly.

So we're looking for three more town in {Klick, Alisae, Black, Asri, Gimli, redFF, Mistyx, fireisredsir, Morning Tweet}

I think the least disputable town in this set of players is Black. I don't think anyone has Black as likely scum for reasons that are valid. Black is probably the only player there that can be considered town with very little controversy.

I'm probably the next closest to a consensus townread but I'll ignore myself for exactly furtive's sake

I think Alisae SHOULD be in the hard town category but everyone is insanely paranoid of losing to e

A case can probably be made for Asri to join the town core? But there are people who disagree with that too

I don't have sufficient confidence in any of the others to advocate for them. Best I can do is say Gimli should probably be in the 'towncore' since he provides us with additional shots.

So... {peta, Ari, furtive, Firebringer, Black, Gimli}. And then one more town for the win.

[Black]

If literally all of my TRs think Ali is innocent then I won't push for it that hard, even if TSQ flips scum. I realize I've been wrong a lot this game and I could be wrong with her. I just have a gut feeling I guess

[Firebringer]

I think Alisae SHOULD be in the hard town category but everyone is insanely paranoid of losing to e

im not paranoid of alisae but i will say im gonna be annoyed seeing a smug scum alisae in post game if alisae won

[Thestatusquo]

How about my role claim for example, ur not evaluating that at all.

I'm basically not doing shit right now at all. Just vibing. Something something dead man walking.

[Firebringer]

How about my role claim for example, ur not evaluating that at all.

I'm basically not doing shit right now at all. Just vibing. Something something dead man walking.

Shea: What should i evaluate that u have done
Me: Points out the role claim
Shea: I am not doing shit bro. im dead
Me: Okay

[Firebringer]

How about giving me a hot take about how im scum fake claiming lol