Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[Thestatusquo]

a PT between alisae and scum!shirou that's being transposed in the thread to clear a slot is not something I wanna try to read into and work out that is 'never svs'

I've seen far too much scum theatrics inside of neighborhoods by now to give them any strength. we are knowing what happened from the POV and narrative of ali's slot.

but having said all that, I did not read much of the things from the PT because I wasn't understanding anything when I tried.

I suggest you try a little bit if you want to solve, part of what makes me think its not theatre is just the incredible amount of detail that dunn, a person who had just replaced in and had not read the thread, was able to pull which matched up perfectly with what was going on in the thread. Its not just that dunn was able to be like "oh hey this is what they were talking about" and give some details, it was a full run through of what they were talking about in lock step with what is going on in the thread and I just don't believe for a second it was theatre.

[sheepsaysmeep]

bro im so confused by ur perspective on the PT

I think I fully agree with gamma about it

outside of that I agree gamma's been ridiculously wolfy for a couple pages lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

like we all agree at least dunn didn't do any faking of the conversation; it exists and it had that much detail and all dunn did was an easy job of summarizing

[sheepsaysmeep]

and then from there the content is in no way un-fakeable for them, and the motivation for doing it is fairly straightforward, like clearly it was very effective in convincing u they can't be w/w

so it's not really rule-out material

and I agree with gamma that it's just a matter of whether or not it rules them out, which I know u didnt like

like even if it's unlikely, like substantially less than 50% chance, in-thread wolfiness easily outweighs that by miles in significance

[Gimli]

in-thread wolfiness easily outweighs that by miles in significance

liking this guy

so can we vote dunnstral today?

[sheepsaysmeep]

and they never would have needed to anticipate a sub-out to employ it for cred

once shirou flips then alisae goes ur probably gonna suspect me for buddying with shirou, so here's how it happened *posts what dunn did*

and it still proves that a conversation to that level of detail really did happen

[Gamma Emerald]

bro im so confused by ur perspective on the PT

I think I fully agree with gamma about it

outside of that I agree gamma's been ridiculously wolfy for a couple pages lol

I reject your agreement.

[Gamma Emerald]

As much as I think Alisae had been suspect, sheep seems to be actively trying to put words in my mouth, so I want sheep dead before Dunnstral.

[Gamma Emerald]

Highest bid is 400
Bidding ends 24 hours from this post

@mod it has been well more than 24 hours since this post

[Thestatusquo]

I think its 95-5 not "less than 50%"

If I were to go into 100 PTs on this site that are s-s I think I would find one that was that active almost never.

Even the ONE example that has been brought up here was later revealed to be not actually that detail filled at all.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I did 2 quick iso's of std and gamma

std I feel like is really villagery in a vacuum, like all the progressions are really follow-able and make lots of sense
but like looking at his reads in context, he's done a lot to get LHF town limmed + I think his current wolf-guess-pool is also entirely town, while he stated some suspicion on both Norwe/Shirou but never actually applied meaningful pressure to them
-very pivotal in Titus hang, furtive hang, pushing psyche
-has posts casting doubt on Norwe/shirou but there's like a stark contrast in the amount of impact that has with his wolfreads on flipped villagers
-currently pushing gimli/t-bone, my most confident villagers outside of TSQ, and then me

I am halfway through gamma iso but I feel like she is just a villager
there's a lot of constant pressuring Shirou and I think Shirou is genuinely pressed by it and frustrated/feeling a need to convince Gamma of things.
could find quotes for that
+ I remember always noting like it feels like Gamma's worldview has been rly good / rly similar to mine and Shea's, and I remember thinking it's potentially suspicious to have such accurate reads while them not being notable/memorable, like TMI-ing for post-flip-cred, but I don't think that's valid anymore, I think gamma voiced those reads enough and was just being pro-town throughout the game

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think its 95-5 not "less than 50%"

If I were to go into 100 PTs on this site that are s-s I think I would find one that was that active almost never.

Even the ONE example that has been brought up here was later revealed to be not actually that detail filled at all.

I would assert more like 20-30% off the top of my head, and then I feel like in context of the gamestate dunn is just reallyyyyyy straightforwardly likely wolf, to a

comparable

degree to 95-5, in terms of poe-wise everyone else has something strong going for them + wolf-siding severely

[sheepsaysmeep]

sorry gamma I genuinely keep thinking I understand ur pov lmao idk

[T-Bone]

In theory scum!Dunn could just pull from the scum PT and claim it as the private PT if you're really looking for a plausible explanation. But I think I pulled enough interactions from Shirou that really paint that slot as town.

[Gamma Emerald]

You probably do I just didn’t like you saying it so much
There’s a reason I almost always say “I *think* I agree”. After getting into a bad spot in a game early on from agreeing with someone too hastily, I’ve worked to curb my eagerness to agree with folks.

[Thestatusquo]

I think sheep is bending over backwards to not put words in anyones mouth here tbh.

[Gamma Emerald]

In theory scum!Dunn could just pull from the scum PT and claim it as the private PT if you're really looking for a plausible explanation. But I think I pulled enough interactions from Shirou that really paint that slot as town.

I think this is extremely bold if true, mostly because he’d have to prune out the other 2 scum from what went down in the scum PT.

[Thestatusquo]

In theory scum!Dunn could just pull from the scum PT and claim it as the private PT if you're really looking for a plausible explanation. But I think I pulled enough interactions from Shirou that really paint that slot as town.

I dont think the scum PT would have so many discussions of reads and thread dynamics. At least, thats not what happens in any scum PT I've ever been in, usually its like "hey who should we push." "herp derp should we bus billy?" "oh fuck they have a cop"

Not much of the "hey sheas reads on norwee are really wrong and its bothering me emotionally"

[Gamma Emerald]

I think sheep is bending over backwards to not put words in anyones mouth here tbh.

That was not the impression I got but I am less sure now
UNVOTE:

[T-Bone]

In theory scum!Dunn could just pull from the scum PT and claim it as the private PT if you're really looking for a plausible explanation. But I think I pulled enough interactions from Shirou that really paint that slot as town.

I dont think the scum PT would have so many discussions of reads and thread dynamics. At least, thats not what happens in any scum PT I've ever been in, usually its like "hey who should we push." "herp derp should we bus billy?" "oh fuck they have a cop"

Not much of the "hey sheas reads on norwee are really wrong and its bothering me emotionally"

I mean I don't think Dunn is scum at this point and that the simplest answer is the correct one.

I just remember reading the quote sheep took from Dunn's post and thinking "what if this was the scum PT?"

[T-Bone]

like 1 total post discussing this according to Dunn PT summary:

[start of day 3]
357 - Shirou: Is wavering on Psyche being mafia but will pretend to be confident if Alisae wants
358 - Alisae: Thinking about saving up money to send out a lot of messages
359 - Alisae: And disguising the messages as unwanted e-mails
360 - Shirou: Wants to save money for team swaps later
361 - Shirou: Thinks that would be funny if the town was in a good position
362 - Alisae: Responds to 347 saying that Psyche went after Alisae but was not satisfactory, and that Alisae is playing for money

Just this part.

[Gamma Emerald]

I should be back at my computer within an hour or so, at which point I will work on writing up why I would’ve never killed Pooky in this game.

[Thestatusquo]

like 1 total post discussing this according to Dunn PT summary:

[start of day 3]
357 - Shirou: Is wavering on Psyche being mafia but will pretend to be confident if Alisae wants
358 - Alisae: Thinking about saving up money to send out a lot of messages
359 - Alisae: And disguising the messages as unwanted e-mails
360 - Shirou: Wants to save money for team swaps later
361 - Shirou: Thinks that would be funny if the town was in a good position
362 - Alisae: Responds to 347 saying that Psyche went after Alisae but was not satisfactory, and that Alisae is playing for money

Just this part.

dunn can we get a more in depth break down of these posts?

[Firebringer]

Highest bid was 749. The auction is now concluded.

[sheepsaysmeep]

lmao wtf u might as well buy one from the shop