In post 60, Looker wrote:
I also disagree with your fast claim - scum can still delay and collaborate in their pt
Can you clarify this?
Confused on what you are disagreeing with.
I disagree with "Immediate mass claim because scum won't be able to think that fast" - I feel they could still collaborate claims in their pt and could just wait until they did so.
In post 60, Looker wrote:
I also disagree with your fast claim - scum can still delay and collaborate in their pt
Can you clarify this?
Confused on what you are disagreeing with.
I disagree with "Immediate mass claim because scum won't be able to think that fast" - I feel they could still collaborate claims in their pt and could just wait until they did so.
Ah ok gotcha, and yes I would tend to agree with you, especially in a setup like this where there literally a whole database of potential fake claims lol
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 121, MegAzumarill wrote:
I mean if it's a fakeclaim it's basically saying he was betting his life on there being 0 roles that either give or produce feedback at night so I'm liable to believe he is in fact a 1 shot global roleblocker.
being honest, don’t understand the above,, “betting his life on 0 feedback roles”,, you saying the existence of the role is only not valid if there is no point for it?? setup spec? first counterclaim; this is grand idea lol!!
just thinking,, whether true claim or not isn’t important,, the contents of the role is easy to excuse anyway
e.g “sorry my shot missed!” or “sorry was saving my shot”
in saying so, claiming early is not a big disadvantage for scum,, therefore stance of “towniness” is void)
Furtive says the use their shot
Literally anyone who received loud/announcing/investigative feedback/ neighborization messages ccs and furtive is limmed
Meg, you are definitely my go to for setup spec reads. And this is why I am scared of you being an evil genius again lol.
There is the possibility of someone faking a night action if Furtive said they used the RB, but then that would be suicide by whoever tried this(though something to think about in a micro game where it could be worth it from a scum perspective for the mis-elim).
But yes I agree, I feel this is more likely to come from townFurtive.
Pre Edit: What pings you for them as town, Furtive?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 184, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Hmmm
Does anyone on here have a pfp from Supernatural? I think it’d be funny if me, furtive, and that person formed a hydra called Superwholock
I mean, how about me and DrWhoLock
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 186, furtiveglance wrote:
I've never heard of Supernatural, so it's obviously not on the same level.
Hot dudes investigate weird shit.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
So.......you have an issue with votes on a null read?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 168, Nono wrote:
ooc: also aero vote was poke, for fun, if needed explaining,, made me laugh at least)
At the cost of sounding like an ass, this just reads like you are trying to backtrack. It was barren and with no joking attached, not really top funniness
can’t backtrack if there’s no track to back xD i.e don’t even need to, from non existent track (spoiling punchline for you)
and for the record, in the case of clarification needed,, doc vote also has (in part, true stance in progress) element of “same vein/in the same spirit”,, reflecting (ironically) him doing the same as accused,, now don’t spread wild assumptions)
In post 121, MegAzumarill wrote:
I mean if it's a fakeclaim it's basically saying he was betting his life on there being 0 roles that either give or produce feedback at night so I'm liable to believe he is in fact a 1 shot global roleblocker.
being honest, don’t understand the above,, “betting his life on 0 feedback roles”,, you saying the existence of the role is only not valid if there is no point for it?? setup spec? first counterclaim; this is grand idea lol!!
just thinking,, whether true claim or not isn’t important,, the contents of the role is easy to excuse anyway
e.g “sorry my shot missed!” or “sorry was saving my shot”
in saying so, claiming early is not a big disadvantage for scum,, therefore stance of “towniness” is void)
There may be something I'd want to say about this, but first I need you to clarify something up which I realized I may have been reading incorrectly.
In post 56, Nono wrote:
more serious note, agree fast claim is towny,, no time to think, meaning as non-advantageous as scum
brain off type play, imo, is town,, i know, i'm town too kek xD
By this you meant that furtive specifically fast-claiming is town, or that in general enacting a policy to fast-claim en masse is +EV for town? I rekon that you may have recanted that opinion, but I need clarity on what that opinion was
I don't like that opening. I don't feel like there's a lot of reasons to bring that up with almost no info.
Maybe I'm just the idiot here, but again I do not share the discomfort with Gamma.
In post 101, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Wrt seeing furtive as suggesting massclaim, I saw it a tiny bit but in actuality my comment against early massclaim was more to do with my talking about not claiming myself until then.
I read this as in "I may have a reason why
my
role, specifically, should not be outed unless we do a massclaim". It's reasonable, depending of what her role is.
In post 108, Aeronaut wrote:
I also am feeling furt very townie at the moment
For general vibes or for the claim?
Oh, whoops, I'm the idiot! Posted while at work, and mixed up Gamma and Meg. I didn't like meg's immediate claim there, just don't understand that right now.
Mixed up with Gamma since she was talking about a mass claim. Whoops!
Vote: Meg
Kinda gave some interesting results though, not gonna lie
I was gonna poke you for aligning yourself with furtive but this kinda changes things
How does it? Areo's stance on furtive was not altered. The only thing that changed was that they no longer are accusing you (and retroactively not so)
I thought Aero was trying to do something by pushing me and defending furtive
Can you clarify what you're talking about? What was I trying to do exactly? Genuinely curious lol
Well now this feels like 'I better provide content before I look bad'.
VOTE: Nono
How?
Two reasons.
Aero explained why they voted you in the bolded section, what is there to explain?
Also a Furtive town read at this point isn't crazy, feels like Nono going after low hanging fruit(person who hasn't played in awhile) hoping they panic.
Also, I meant to come back to this. Tell me why exactly going after a person hoping they panic is nessesarily scum motivated? Sorry, but I honestly feel like that's the best strat on D1 for town as well. When people feel uncomfortable, they usually break the facade and reveal their motivations
