Open 873: PYP: Anime Music & Memes - Game Over!

[Ydrasse]

This happened in the last game i played too

When will it end

[fireisredsir]

the super comedy world is firebringer claimed a guilty on bell because bell actually is scum. that would be a funny thing to do so i can't rule out firebringer doing it

i mean that was what i thought he was doing when he did it

[petapan]

Sure.
Twice I have caught scum who called their partners boring instead of scum. Simple, boring, I know. It's just honest to goodness excuse not to put fire on them. I Also find it slightly weird that Notty put that much effort into controlling for a player's idiosyncracies this early in the game. Also they keep trying to manipulate people's feelings to get off of them and that rubs me bad. *Thumbs down*
Last game I was in Taly was either meltdowning or efforting. I think I just carry my suspicions from game to game without any reason or logic.

I don't scum read Marci, I just don't town read them. They're always kind of weird, fake, and survivory when they play mafia. So it's pretty hard to read them.

[Ydrasse]

i dunno i feel dumb because when she writes posts with actual sentences i find it scummy but then when she shitposts i start thinking it might be towny again

^fwiw i too really hate this phenomenon because i can never explain my thoughts as they appear in my brain because everyone goes "this is weird lol" but then if i barely try and vibe everyone is like yeah cool
i wish i could explain normally

[Ydrasse]

i think the bell guilty was just a thinly veiled attempt at life because everyone balks at elimming a cop despite the setup
but after the fact i think it says the least about bell, or rather fb thought bell was the most transparently town and there's just not a lot of depth to it, which makes sense since he seemed pretty adamant on not giving a lot to work w

[Ydrasse]

and if it somehow works... cool you killed someone otherwise unelimmable

[fireisredsir]

i had the thought earlier that if i rolled scum with bell and he was tryharding i would 100% try to blatantly tmi him as obvtown

[Ydrasse]

that feels very convenient to the conversation at hand lol
why'd the thought cross you?

[petapan]

Punished for good read syndrome

This happened in the last game i played too

When will it end

it's a very dumb fuckin' read but like i'm kind of wondering

player with an informed perspective knows marci and talyslot are never endgaming you know

this does not necessarily mean you are scum ofc

[fireisredsir]

im rereading luke's iso and not feeling it as much as i did originally

some of the performative/fake sounding notes that it's hitting i think might not be as scum indicative as i initially read them as

[Ydrasse]

im just ornery about it

the last game was on mu and despite defending like, the town who was wagoned as a miselim + voting two wolves in a row (!!) people still floated me as a wolf
so now im on the warpath

(ik it's not as clear cut as that particular game but -_-)

[fireisredsir]

that feels very convenient to the conversation at hand lol
why'd the thought cross you?

it does!

the thought originally was about ffery and me not understanding how her modding a game where she saw scum bell's best to date performance from an informed perspective (and not being fooled by it?) was supposed to give weight to her following statement that she had him as a top tier town here

[Ydrasse]

Hrm

[petapan]

if bell's scum this game it's the best scumgame he's ever played by a thousand miles and that includes shakespeare

but rereading him...i kind of think he fits? moreso than notty or ydra or unwnd.

[fireisredsir]

He's deciding to trust other people that Notty is town. I don't know why they're satisfied or comfortable with that. In comparison
they won't do the same for me who is being town read as hard or harder by those layers.

I'm considering like, 3 different teams right now, and one of them has notty in it. It bothers me when people place their reads of me low during an FB Guilty on me, that has 3 players angling for "What a mystery, Bell got investigated, could they be scum together?"
I get that other people have other things in mind and I'm also I think a step behind since I'm still in the LLD and Dunnstral could be scum thing.
Esp. Dunnstral given watcher Gray.
And also dead Gray.
Not much reason to murder Gray unless they were on to something.
Or I guess that they knew that FB oh.
Well whatever, I guess they knew that FB/Gray interaction cleared each other.
Still kinda stuck on why it can't be both tho.

this isn't what i thought you were implying and i like it less than my original interpretation

i think that peta thinks your scumrange is smaller than i think it probably could be if you tryharded and i think your play this game kinda looks like "scum bell except he's trying harder". im not sure of that read or anything but it's enough for me to not call you town

i have no meta on notscience besides like seeing him in a couple games that ive read and idk how to read him. i think peta is more likely to have a correct read there (and have a higher level of respect for his scumrange, probably) and he's pretty confident so i sheep

that said i do also agree with you that LLD/dunn is a specifically a team i thought of as a possibility, so. idk

scum-Bell won in 3p ELO in the Shakespeare large theme game I ran a year or so ago. From my informed perspective in that game, I didn't think he was solidly striking his town-Bell notes, but several players did.

Bell's in my top tier townpile here.

this one

i just don't really logically connect the dots there to why that makes her feel justified in being confident here

which typically makes me think tmi

which then made me think "but wait what if it's SUPPOSED to look like tmi"

which is probably really dumb, honestly

[Ydrasse]

i would be greatly shocked if bell was a wolf but almost in a pleasant way because Wow

[petapan]

Spoiler:

Cool.
Can we flip Marci.

I appreciate them, but like,
Their approach to this game is so wrong headed that I’m not sure where I’d start with them if they aren’t scum.

The best I can really say is that maybe they were ironically posting a caricature of a scum player while town because they don’t like us or the game and would like to exit stage left.
That’s honestly the most generous interpretation I can come up with that isn’t them just being scum this game.

VOTE: Marci

*shrug*

I can't read spoilers on my phone.
I have read the spoilers on my laptop.
Sorry you're having stressful stuff happen Marci!
I..don't really know how the two connect very well though, it's too murky for me to change my approach.
A bad day can effect a scum game just as much and probably more* than a bad day as town.

I actually don't think the specifics would help me understand.
Well, they might, but I really wanna respect the idea that we shouldn't be asking for a confession hour for every blip on the AtE scale.

Anyway, murderin' time please and thank you.

So you think she’s town. I’m okay steeping you if you wanna take responsibility for it.

Sheeping. *

UNVOTE:

While waiting on response.

VOTE: kingtroll

/shrug

[Ydrasse]

times like this i wish marci actually gave a fuck about any of this to help make it clear like. Any of her.

[petapan]

That is basically what I mean. She’s really not being community minded in her play.

But i’m genuinely fine with king troll if Luke is confident In their read on Marci.

I forgot what else I was going to say. Oh well.

mu wolf emote

[Ydrasse]

I think fire is genuine about the ffery thing i think even to be silly to bring up something like "yeah this exact weird thing crossed my mind" would be goofy as wolf

[fireisredsir]

i just don't really think bell is approaching this game in a town bell way

i think he's approaching it closer to a scum bell way except he's posting a lot more and occasionally trying some thoughtdump posts

i just don't really see the actual town bell markers besides "wow he sure is posting more than he usually does as scum"

[Ydrasse]

what are the markers?

[petapan]

I also don’t think scum bell just ignores the hypo like he did because that stuck out like a sore thumb but I think town bell is that oblivious

i dunno what if he's scum who's not actually reading the thread lol

[petapan]

I think in general Dunn is pretty defensive.
I felt they were sufficiently defensive early in the game. There was a key somewhere in there to determine whether his defensiveness was scummy or townie.

Right now they seem to be trying to get a handle on what the problems are to figure out how to address it.
It’s either way really.

I don't really think I'm being fooled by Unwnd this game still. They're just town probably.

I'm still pretty skeptical of Notty. They just aren't reaching what it is I need them to reach. Don't ask me what it is.
I remain leaning slightly town on Peta. I don't really have many tells or things I think Petascum does that petatown doesn't. I don't feel like sharing my opinion on him regarding their brushes on those tells this game. It's not terrible.

All I got for GI is that while they have threatened to moralize they haven't actually done so, which means they're not so bored because they don't have a game to solve that I think scum them might be inclined to do. On the otherhand, lol at even the idea of trying to read them through that lense.

LLD keeps telling me how sad they feel about how I think about them this game.
So I won't talk about it.

STD is hard. Sad brains is hard. STD sad brains kill because sad brains or kill because scum with also sad brains. Sad brains. My brain sad.

as far as analysis goes this is kind of poor

Hard time seeing unwnd as anything but a pal to maybe ask a question or two on their opinion about a read.
I don't really think I'd follow them unless I already agreed. I guess it would depend on what they say, but I don't usually feel moved by their thoughts. Just because they're their thoughts.

that said. *stares blankly*

VOTE: firebringer.

this kind of like, fits the model of how i expect scum-bell to bus

[petapan]

like if we remove the standard of "actually posting" from him its kind of...hard to see where he's really solving?