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Post Post #5125 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:00 pm

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there was no way you could ever save cakez and continuing to defend him would only mean your death

klick you know these things. I don't get why you're defending yourself using a meaningless point, that's not why you're town
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Post Post #5126 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:06 pm

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If ur posting who u hide behind at the end of each day and everyone treats this as true, then sure, why hasn't scum shot you. of all the possible juicy NK targets, arenbt you clearly the juiciest? And aren't you making scum autolose the more nights you stay alive? and ur role is disproptionally good

This is all lines of thought that Black would approve of. So to be more direct, Black suspected you FB because he found it suspcious you weren't dying. The bit where I thought you were obfuscating ur target was all urs truly. The exact recount of the PT's thoughts are under "The Grimme Troupe" in my other post (Guess I should have named that less artistically and more functionally in hindsight)

But Peta would approve of it being Klick. Which is were I was putting my stock in. Suspecting Firebringer wasn't on the table for me because I figured he wasn't claiming his exact targets at the end of each day (he was claiming his exact targets at the end of each day) so I personally am left very confused why scum doesnt kill him but yeah

I still lim Klick
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Post Post #5127 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:08 pm

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@klick: I do feel the way you're describing cakez claim ITT makes sense if cakez has previously lied to you with his fake claim, which means you used the hood, which means you're not all scum together. also since the fake claim was a hard red after the ari check, it means he'd claimed to you before ari and was trying to convince you he is town

but that wasn't the nail to the coffin. the track was it and no claim would stop cakez from dying.
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Post Post #5128 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:08 pm

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I want to go Klick into Firebringer if Firebringer doesn't die
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Post Post #5129 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 5126, Morning Tweet wrote: If ur posting who u hide behind at the end of each day and everyone treats this as true, then sure, why hasn't scum shot you. of all the possible juicy NK targets, arenbt you clearly the juiciest? And aren't you making scum autolose the more nights you stay alive? and ur role is disproptionally good

This is all lines of thought that Black would approve of. So to be more direct, Black suspected you FB because he found it suspcious you weren't dying. The bit where I thought you were obfuscating ur target was all urs truly. The exact recount of the PT's thoughts are under "The Grimme Troupe" in my other post (Guess I should have named that less artistically and more functionally in hindsight)

But Peta would approve of it being Klick. Which is were I was putting my stock in. Suspecting Firebringer wasn't on the table for me because I figured he wasn't claiming his exact targets at the end of each day (he was claiming his exact targets at the end of each day) so I personally am left very confused why scum doesnt kill him but yeah

I still lim Klick
its been clear now that if firebringer isn't the last mafia, then whoever it is is playing with firebringer's role and having us follow wrong leads (alisae, redff)
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Post Post #5130 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 5126, Morning Tweet wrote: why hasn't scum shot you. of all the possible juicy NK targets, arenbt you clearly the juiciest?
clearly im not
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Post Post #5131 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:10 pm

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I'm fine with Klick today and giving Klick some time to make a case for last!scum in case we are wrong here.
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Post Post #5132 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:12 pm

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I'm fine flipping klick because it was the consensus of dead hood people and especially because petapan wanted that

but I don't think it ends the game. I think it's MT.
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Post Post #5133 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 753, VP Baltar wrote: Klick is plus town for hood paranoia disclosure. Scum would be unlikely to do that this early in the game.
does VPB say this about the only town player in a two scum one town hood
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Post Post #5134 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 5130, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5126, Morning Tweet wrote: why hasn't scum shot you. of all the possible juicy NK targets, arenbt you clearly the juiciest?
clearly im not
you only clear someone each night for the entire game!! Although.. only with one mafia left.

Which there is and has been for a while, how many people have you innoed at this point
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Post Post #5135 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 5134, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 5130, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5126, Morning Tweet wrote: why hasn't scum shot you. of all the possible juicy NK targets, arenbt you clearly the juiciest?
clearly im not
you only clear someone each night for the entire game!! Although.. only with one mafia left.

Which there is and has been for a while, how many people have you innoed at this point
1 lol
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Post Post #5136 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:16 pm

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FB's role has been doing more harm than good for town, it's easy to circumvent, we flipped alisae for it etc

I don't think it's as strong as it looks like
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Post Post #5137 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 5133, Aristeia wrote:
In post 753, VP Baltar wrote: Klick is plus town for hood paranoia disclosure. Scum would be unlikely to do that this early in the game.
does VPB say this about the only town player in a two scum one town hood
yeah I think so cause that's who scum is gonna pocket. that point is moot btw, I saw someone say klick outing the hood was +town for them (maybe it was klick themselves?) but even a full scumteam needs to out their hood because its in their role PM and town will know about it when any of them flip
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Post Post #5138 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:20 pm

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In post 5131, Aristeia wrote: I'm fine with Klick today and giving Klick some time to make a case for last!scum in case we are wrong here.
I'll take it. Not tonight though
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Post Post #5139 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:21 pm

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In post 5136, Gimli wrote: FB's role has been doing more harm than good for town, it's easy to circumvent, we flipped alisae for it etc

I don't think it's as strong as it looks like
You're probably right that it's just happened to be this strong. ish. I guess that explains why only FireR was innoed by it so far (iirc)

What if the bastard role is a mafia player who thinks they're town. Super deep wolf. So deep wolf that you're just stuck in a limbo endlessly looking for *yourself*
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Post Post #5140 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:22 pm

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VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #5141 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:25 pm

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if we flip firebringer and he is indeed our hider, do we still have auto?

clears will be ari, fireisred, furt

scum free to shoot

we play f5 with two innos + me/mt/klick

that's not auto

didn't we have a plan before that meant we have auto even if firebringer is mafia?
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Post Post #5142 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:28 pm

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the auto is flipping me tomorrow if no kill.
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Post Post #5143 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:28 pm

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right yes, because Firebringer is forced to clear other players

VOTE: Klick
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Post Post #5144 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:29 pm

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I thought the plan was firebringer hides behind gimli - we lim klick

tommorrow we wake up with:

a) firebringer dead -> lim gimli
b) one of ari/furtive/fireisredsir/morningtweet dead -> gimli is clear and we lim firebringer
c) no one dead - we lim gimli ? or firebringer? I am not clear on this
d) firebringer and gimli both dead - lol
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Post Post #5145 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:30 pm

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In post 5142, Firebringer wrote: the auto is flipping me tomorrow if no kill.
so f6, flip you, mafia kills in (fireisred, ari, furt)

come f4 its still either me or MT

taht's not fucking auto either
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Post Post #5146 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:31 pm

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WE DO NOT HAVE AUTO
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Post Post #5147 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:31 pm

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If no one dies then Firebringer
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Post Post #5148 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:31 pm

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I guess we could lose to a fireisredsir/morning tweet team if we lim klick and then firebringer and gimli get shot 2 for 1 at night but we're all thinking it's not a 2 person scumteam right?
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Post Post #5149 (ISO) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:31 pm

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i mean i literally can't win this game as scum with 3 clears.
but so can the actual scum.

so i have no idea if they really go for a kill risking outing themselves or me clearing another player which puts them in same position.
they are in a weird bind.
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