Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[Marashu]

do I win regardless? I'm not sure I understand what the message really means

do I win with pirates?

I asked about that D3 (that's the question I was waiting for from the mod before voting). Basically, the message means that it's POSSIBLE to win, not that you will win. For example, if kyoko had sent that message to an arso, but hadn't plundered an arso yet, the arso would still receive the "you can win with this player" message.

Can win with them doesn't mean will win with them.

[Gimli]

are you voting kokichi already, mara? if you're not just jump in there before kokichi strikes a deal with the pirates or smt

[Gimli]

ah you are

oh well

who's missing? aisa

@aisa come here and vote kokichi

oh wait is the other scum aisa lmao

[furtiveglance]

This is some among sus rn

[Kokichi Oma]

If you just non elim today, we both win. Trust. I've thought this out since you first revealed you were a pirate. My whole goal was so scum could win together. I've changed my entire plan to work with you both.

[Enchant]

Ah yes, kingmaker

[Gimli]

this is so funny

koki you're cool

[Enchant]

Pirates, I've doused you. Don't work with town. We can win together. Just no elim today and visit me. If you vote me out today, I've instructed my partner to ignite and we all lose.

If you just non elim today, we both win. Trust. I've thought this out since you first revealed you were a pirate. My whole goal was so scum could win together. I've changed my entire plan to work with you both.

bruh

[Kokichi Oma]

We either win together. Or lose together. What will it be Pirates?

[Kokichi Oma]

I prefer winning. Come on Kirigiri!

[Enchant]

I getting some clarify from mods.

[Marashu]

I prefer winning. Come on Kirigiri!

There's a critical blunder in your plan - namely getting N_M to not hammer. N_M's been denied long enough this game.

[Marashu]

@N_M Kokichi's at E-1

[Kokichi Oma]

N_M will still choose winning over losing. So he shouldn't hammer.

[Marashu]

Also, if Kokichi's plan was to win with pirates, wouldn't have told pirates to go for Aisa because then town wouldn't be doused and pirates would be out. Maybe one pirate is doused but it's super unlikely that both are. Unless partner is currently voting for Kokichi to throw us off.

[Gimli]

they'll actually lose if they follow your plan though

if you doused them and don't kill them then nobody dies and we play the next gameday just the same

the only thing you have now is the guarantee that they will lose by following your plan

it's cute and all, i love it cause you're playing an impossible spot like a champion

but it doesnt work

[Kokichi Oma]

Kirigiri, winning with town is BORING. When was the last time you saw 2 scum teams win together? It's rare. Be part of history.

[Gimli]

I wouldn't really mind but it doesn't work, kokichi. it's over.

[Marashu]

I notice that nobody has claimed Aisa's watcher results...

[Gimli]

the only way you win is by dousing town, so you doused town and you are lying to the pirates

I'm just pointing at it cause its lolobv

[Enchant]

Techically speaking if Kokichi cared to actually side with pirates, then they don't need to douse them, or lie about dousing them.

If they actually doused them, then they obviously can't ignite, but Pirates will rob someone and leave game. It will result in 2 arsonists vs 4 town gamestate where one townie is doused. Arsonists lose
If they didn't, then they try to threaten you to win with them by lying. Would you side with people trying to threaten you though? Well idk it's more personality thing.

[Enchant]

town still has absoloute majority today so kokichi is 100% going down
the last arson is no where close to winning

why would we even consider betraying at this point?

unless if you're arson with an offer about something we don't see?

Words, words, words.

Your decision?

[Marashu]

Yeah, I think I see the plan. It was always Kokichi/Aisa. Furtive/KT was always a diversion so we wouldn't get there in time. Pirates would exit by targeting Aisa, and town wastes time between fuyu/KT so that even with an Aisa elim, we're too late. So they were trying to win with pirates, but by selling out one of their own.

[Enchant]

Btw personally i side with scum here UNLESS they threaten me lol. Just for sake of pissing them off.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm just going to copy Kyoko