Newbie 2113 - Shea it ain't So! | Game Over!

[KawaiiKame]

Kawaii's playstyle is pretty wild. They seem to be perfectly fine with following whatever their top TRs do. I don't necessarily think this is a scumtell because I do this a lot too. When I mindmeld with someone or have a strong TR of them I find myself naturally agreeing with them and trusting their opinions. So I think it's just a new thing and that aligns with my belief that kawaii is just newtown

I had a glimmer of hope but empath killed the fire immediately

VOTE: Empathice

Is patch even going to be online to make this 4 v. 4 when Empath votes furitive again?

TBH Dion would probably switch. Especially if they're scum.

This is quite the war we're waging

[Black]

I'll give it until I go to bed tonight for people to jump over to the Empath wagon. If not then I guess we can go patch

[KawaiiKame]

Kawaii's playstyle is pretty wild. They seem to be perfectly fine with following whatever their top TRs do. I don't necessarily think this is a scumtell because I do this a lot too. When I mindmeld with someone or have a strong TR of them I find myself naturally agreeing with them and trusting their opinions. So I think it's just a new thing and that aligns with my belief that kawaii is just newtown

I Think it's a personality thing. Gemini to be precise.

[furtiveglance]

Don't pivot.

[Black]

Don't pivot.

???

Was this meant for your scum PT?

[furtiveglance]

Don't pivot.

???

Was this meant for your scum PT?

It was addressed to you.

[Black]

My solving has not been careless

at all

. It was careless of me to ask if you were masons with Dion because that confirms me VT.

Guys, patches has already claimed. Atp pursuing someone else is anti-town because they will have to claim as well if they come close to a lim which will help the scum narrow down the PRs. This is not actually helpful atp.

I Already revealed my VT status.

Note that I would only ask masons to claim as mafia in order to towntell or confirm myself as VT.

Does this not concern anyone? He admits that as scum he would only push for a mason claim to confirm himself VT. Well... he pushed for a mason claim and is now acting like he's a confirmed VT...

[Black]

Don't pivot.

???

Was this meant for your scum PT?

It was addressed to you.

Are you telling me not to pivot to patch or not to pivot from my plan to pivot to patch (what)

[furtiveglance]

Don't pivot to Empathice from patchwork. I mean the group in general

[Dionysus]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

[Empathice]

Kawaii's playstyle is pretty wild. They seem to be perfectly fine with following whatever their top TRs do. I don't necessarily think this is a scumtell because I do this a lot too. When I mindmeld with someone or have a strong TR of them I find myself naturally agreeing with them and trusting their opinions. So I think it's just a new thing and that aligns with my belief that kawaii is just newtown

I Think it's a personality thing. Gemini to be precise.

Same. But also Aquarius.

[KawaiiKame]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

How does this flip analysis make sense? Saving town = not being town? What?

[Empathice]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

How does this flip analysis make sense? Saving town = not being town? What?

Dion, why do you think I'm town now?

[Black]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

Why am I scumreading this?

[Black]

The 3 of us have had every opportunity to just go along with the patch wagon and hammer them but we haven't. I'm more worried about how I will look if patch flips scum. But you think we will all look scummy if he's town? This sounds informed and could be an attempt to set up your cases tomorrow. I don't like it

[KawaiiKame]

My solving has not been careless

at all

. It was careless of me to ask if you were masons with Dion because that confirms me VT.

Guys, patches has already claimed. Atp pursuing someone else is anti-town because they will have to claim as well if they come close to a lim which will help the scum narrow down the PRs. This is not actually helpful atp.

I Already revealed my VT status.

Note that I would only ask masons to claim as mafia in order to towntell or confirm myself as VT.

Does this not concern anyone? He admits that as scum he would only push for a mason claim to confirm himself VT. Well... he pushed for a mason claim and is now acting like he's a confirmed VT...

Empath = Wolf

[KawaiiKame]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

How does this flip analysis make sense? Saving town = not being town? What?

Dion, why do you think I'm town now?

Dion is scum is why

[Empathice]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

Why am I scumreading this?

He listed two very towny people as potential scum. Also he suddenly pivoted on me with no reason.

And he's talking about what happens if Patch flips town to look good when they flip scum probably but that's not a reason for a scumread.

[KawaiiKame]

He listed two very towny people as potential scum. Also he suddenly pivoted on me with no reason.

Why is dio being so contrarian this late in the day?

[patchwork]

okay, so
just wanted to point this out
but what's going on with the whole quickhammering thing? don't quite get it
i know you guys want d1 to be over but we all know black is likely going to be dead tomorrow (towny players, especially those who are a threat to scum, die, that's how it works) and the refusal on your parts to give her time to read through and provide commentary? feels antitown tbh

[patchwork]

also what about my reaction to being at e-1 is inherently +scum? just asking because i've been +scum for a while and i've had a Lot of reactions

[patchwork]

i mistyped that
i've been at e-1 for a whihle

[furtiveglance]

Saying you sucked is +scum because survival is more of a scum goal than a town one

[Dionysus]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

How does this flip analysis make sense? Saving town = not being town? What?

If patches flips town then they necessarily have to be hammered, so I'm not assuming saving town = scum. That would indeed be ridiculous. What I'm assuming is the patch lim will go through, but only after days of visible handwringing in an attempt to gain town cred *if* they flip town.

I guess I just don't see the point of this. The chances of a successful pivot atp is so low that holding back on hammering is no longer pro town. It is the very definition of performative.

[Dionysus]

If patch flips town there is definitely scum in black/kawaii/Bewolkt.

Why am I scumreading this?

He listed two very towny people as potential scum. Also he suddenly pivoted on me with no reason.

And he's talking about what happens if Patch flips town to look good when they flip scum probably but that's not a reason for a scumread.

I didn't suddenly pivot on you. But I really liked your self-reflection on your poor read on me and your scumhunting has improved vastly since you started looking outside of a pool of one.

But just to clarify (thought this was obvious but maybe not) I'm not saying both scum are in those three and I'm also not saying any scum are definitely there. I just think this handwringing is so weird and performative that if patches is Town then one of them is definitely scum taking a chance to get towncred for pushing back against a town lim.