Election! | GAME OVER

[Alisae]

Do you think he seemed solvy and motivated in a way that could not be faked?

[UNOwen]

Whaaa?
I must be in upside down world.
All advisors will be dismissed, clearly the message of voting for me isn't getting through correctly.

Bingle
Sk
Unowen
Furtive
GL

Purest town possible.

[UNOwen]

VOTE: LLD

[ActionDan]

Bingle
STD
UNOwen
GL
Pooky

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: LLD

lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bingle
STD
UNOwen
GL
Pooky

Why did you vote Owen over me again?

[ActionDan]

SK gonna survive 2 days.

Pedit: I think you're both town, but wanted to contribute to shock value in case UNowen did actually win

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SK gonna survive 2 days.

Pedit: I think you're both town, but wanted to contribute to shock value in case UNowen did actually win

lol

that's hilarious actually

i want to see the vote count for me and owen

[UNOwen]

VOTE: LLD

lol

What's your take on xofelf?

[ActionDan]

My guess is 2 to 1 ratio

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: LLD

lol

What's your take on xofelf?

Town, probably.

[UNOwen]

VOTE: LLD

lol

What's your take on xofelf?

Town, probably.

Why - as in compared to Ausuka and opinion on the "slip" theory?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: LLD

lol

What's your take on xofelf?

Town, probably.

Why - as in compared to Ausuka and opinion on the "slip" theory?

The slip theory is sort of ridiculous and feels like it's being concocted or utilized by scum to push on Xof.

Xof's literally not fighting back and that looks town.

Compared ot Ausuka, Xof's showing actual read progression.

[Save The Dragons]

I never really cared about a slip my push on xof is slipless

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I never really cared about a slip my push on xof is slipless

can you sell me on why xof isn't even bothering to defend themselves?

[Save The Dragons]

Because they know they're going down from my righteous crusade and there's nothing they can do to escape the wrath of dragons

[Save The Dragons]

Have you never seen scum not defend themselves to look townie

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Have you never seen scum not defend themselves to look townie

yes but not like this

[ActionDan]

Compared ot Ausuka, Xof's showing actual read progression.

This I agree with but I am mindful that its 3/13 or so thus far.

[Alisae]

Spoiler:

I don't like the slip argument at all and I think furtive is already out of his scum range by coming to this thread pissed off and then having misinterpreted a few things in the hood etc. it's all furtive things and not scummy furtive things. his scum game is more tied together and less tripping over himself, and he does have an extremely good point that not doccing enchant was bad.

1) can you explain why you don't think it's a slip? Why would xofelf be "expecting" to get shot if they're town and don't know the JOAT abilities?

2) you realize the slip argument isn't contingent on furtive being scum, right? Like yah I personally think his quick defensiveness around it is scummy but there can be worlds where xof is scum and furtive is town. This post reads to me like you think furtive being town makes the slip argument less likely and I don't think that's true at all. I am honestly thinking we should deathtunnel xof over this and I'd like you on board with that, even if we disagree on furtive. What's your read on Ausuka/xof otherwise?

3) why is making the "extremely good point" that Enchant should have been docced something that is less likely to come from scum furtive? I don't see how that's alignment indicative

1) how would it be a slip if everyone is talking about a vig in the thread? it makes no sense idk why you're pushing people with that line of reasoning
2) you're the one who wants to flip furtive on a xof scum flip. I'm saying furtive is playing his town meta in this game and I know furtive and I can look inside his soul from his innocent blue eyes and tell he is town in this game. this is the same thing that happened to him in pairs mafia, tripping over himself over PT things and confusing emotions and thoughts with posts. I have no read on ausuka/xof
3) that's alignment indicative for furtive, I don't think he fakes being mad at things the town agreed on as mafia even if they're bad. I don't think furtive is a LAMIST wolf.

1) how would it be a slip if everyone is talking about a vig in the thread? it makes no sense idk why you're pushing people with that line of reasoning

see, this tells me you're not understanding it

xofelf said they "FULLY EXPECTED" to be "THE" vig shot. The use past tense of "expected" combined with confident assertion that a vig shot exists is the slip. It says that xofelf was thinking they were going to be shot last night. A townie would not be thinking with certainty that a vig shot exists last night, and if they were

speculating

about that they would use a past hypothetical tense, like "I

WOULD HAVE

expected" to be shot. Not "

fully expecting

".

Read xofelf's original post again and think about the fact that nobody who wasn't in the council PT should have been aware that there was a plan to use the vig. That's the slip. It's not just "talking about a vig lel" like you've phrased it here.

I will consider your other two answers to my questions.

you might end up in a spot here, I think, where you could be right that xofelf is scum, but because the slip doesn't really work people will not wanna go there if this is the reason. I can see maybe some suspicious perspective, but when xofelf wrote that, everybody knew about the vig shot and who was shot. it was the thread's main point as you can see if you read the posts in sequence.

I think you're a townie

either way I think the scum team is exactly alisae, sleepykrew and xofelf and the game is over

that would mean no scum on n1 council

I have nothing more to say about the slip, but I can see how xoxelf's posts this gameday can be construed as scum.

I think alisae is having difficulty getting into this game because replacing into this as scum is a bit harder than replacing in as a townie, I think, and I take that difficulty as >rand scum instead of NAI. I think it's interesting how e tried to take me on my campaign for mayor, I think that's what e is going to do as scum cause my position itg wasn't very good and e could antagonize with me and get scum in the council. I don't have much to say about ausuka and don't think I can read ausuka well.

So like I feel like the above posts are likely coming from a wolf whom doesn't necessarily think that slip leads to anything productive but it's working towards their favor?
Like Xof makes this post afterwards

xofelf wrote that, everybody knew about the vig shot and who was shot

but why would xofelf have "FULLY EXPECTED" to be shot??

they weren't talking about how they were feeling on D2.

they were talking about how they were feeling on N1.

am I not making this clear or something? I don't understand what you're missing or what I'm not communicating effectively

God, those were the words I used because it's the way I speak. It's not some 5d chess mistake. Look man, I'm happy for you that you think you've got this undeniable moment where you've solved this game, but you're reading way too much into a very half-asleep post.

Like.. you're all just convinced this slot is scum, but I'm not. So, since nobody really wants me to even bother declaring for one of the jobs here, I'm not going to, and I will vote for the jobs however I'm told to(specifically told by LLD). But once it's Day again? I'm gonna finish my isodives so that at the very least, once I'm voted out and you all see I've been telling the truth, well maybe what I've left behind will actually help somehow. But man, this uphill battle I replaced into sucks. I was looking forward to actively trying to play this game in a smart way with effort, and it doesn't seem like I'm gonna get that.

Also, Fen, it's fine about the mess up, I know it was an accident, but thanks for fixing it.

I feel like this is like a decently townie post? I think this is how town plays it in this situation.
But this gets posted afterwards

yeah xof is scummy af

and I don't get the feeling that like this is a player who wants to be right on xofelf

[Alisae]

I personally really like this mindset from xofelf that's basically "look, I'll do whatever it is you guys want me to do, but I'm going to finish my isodives"
I think it's likely to come from town who wants to try to make what they can out of situation and just try to make the best of it.
I think there are going to be a lot of on what Xofelf actually tries to produce. I actually have higher expectations that she'll produce something that looks like she's trying to engage and solve the puzzle and if she's a wolf and she's producing content that's like not good or not that great then and maybe then I'll probably want to vote it off, but for now I think I'm super happy with just letting her cook and hopefully she doesn't fail to meet my expectations?

[UNOwen]

My main reason for suspecting xof is that the “give me scumreads”, “here’s my read list of the game” interaction with meowth didn’t look right. And that the meowth vibe read was muddled.

I’m not sure why xofelf entered the game where meowth was looking like the probable execution (?) and didn’t decide to prioritize his ISO.

[ActionDan]

While meowth was looking like probable execution their wagon was sitting at 5 for a while until a verifiable flash quick hammer. Before that Xof was able to do the 3 shortest isos anyway. Actually wasn't meowth one of them? I just remember mine

[ActionDan]

Although I don't give the same town credentials Alisae gives Xof during the last 2 cycles I share the perspective of 2595 going forward

[Alisae]

I mean I feel like the play so far seems pretty agendaless?