Mini 2293: Death Note. Postgame!

[KawaiiKame]

If we suspect someone is a follower then we kill them

^ Straight up
"I'm Death, straight up"

[Gimli]

so kawaii is a follower?

[Gimli]

they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature

is this softing to kira

[Gimli]

(koki, mala, kawaii) imo

[Black]

they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature

is this softing to kira

Yeah I'm not liking this either tbh

[Lorne Malvo]

I would be down to kill anyone who talks about mechanics too much

[Lorne Malvo]

they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature

is this softing to kira

Isn't that not allowed

[Malakittens]

ngl

i usually just glide over setup-talk/setup-spec only because its not a strong suit of mine. i try to stay out of it at all costs.

I believe it's just better to stay quiet of all costs bc we dont want scum getting any more information.

[Save The Dragons]

i'm death straight up is a line from puss in boots the last wish

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: malakittens

Why? (If you answer this later, ignore. I reply as I read.)

[Kokichi Oma]

starting to have doubts on kokichi

Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?

[Kokichi Oma]

There's important thing i cut out of rules and just noticed.

All dead players flip without revealing any information. I am returning this back in "Setup" section.

here, lorne. enchant just decided to make things worse for us.

Then why are we even playing?

I agree it was a pretty big omission and makes scumhunting less rewarding.

[Kokichi Oma]

I just want to add, regarding hunting followers/Kira:

If we suspect someone is a follower then we kill them. We don't keep them around to try to see if we can figure out who Kira is from them. Each follower can use Shinigami Eyes correct? That means scum can get two real names a night assuming the followers don't accidently target the same guy. The quicker we get rid of the followers then the less real names are revealed to scum.

What's cool about this game is that the followers can't tell each other or Kira what their eyes discovered overnight. They're gonna have to figure out a way to push that information in public without getting caught

Slightly suspicious of Gimli for even semi-suggesting we ignore followers

I like you already. I agree.

[Kokichi Oma]

@black: this read

Kira followers fake claiming is actually genius the more I think about it. The followers don't know each other and Kira doesn't know them, but they all know what skills aren't in play. Claiming a skill that isn't in play let's your two buddies know you're with them

Assuming I'm right about the rules, strong read from this that Black is not a follower

the man is paying attention, and while kira is follower hunting, they might not do so in public like this.

vander gets not kira points and not follower points for this post, imo.

Eh, I feel like that's a weak read. But I guess?

[Kokichi Oma]

I want to hang Kira day 5 so we get maximum playing time

I like your style. Getting Kira Day 1 would be boring.

[Kokichi Oma]

Ok...weird thoughts on Vander so far...a lot of these actions are NAI but they still pinged me

Do we like spoilers? Do we not like spoilers? Will people read this if I put it in tags or will people hate me for not tagging it and clogging up the page? I have Mafia anxiety

Spoiler: Vander giving me the creeps

Thoughts on skills?
I don't see any kind of obvious partial skill claiming plans, I think any advantage to open claiming a skill is probably not worth reducing Kira NK info, but keen to discuss if anyone feels differently

I thought even bringing up skill claiming was weird and it was framed like he definitely doesn't want to do it while also leaving the door open to discuss. Just felt off

I'm on board with all of that!

Vander agreeing with several things that Gimli proposed here. Not much extra input or anything

Just Kira who knows which skills aren't in play, right?

Could be informed but also could just be paying more attention to me which is entirely possible lol

Assuming I'm right about the rules, strong read from this that Black is not a follower

These types of reads are easy to make and I think followers/Kira benefit more from these definitive declarations more than taskforce. I still think it's NAI because Vander could post this as either alignment but I can't help that I felt weird about it

Does scumBlack typically openly advocate pro-scum strategies?

This just seems like Vander is trying to solve without really putting much thought into it. Posting this question and legit hoping to get an answer back seems like a reach

I like gimli's thought process.

More sheeping of Gimli with no elaboration on why he likes the thought process

I thought kokichi might have been scum for the vote on black for the call for skill claims, but his response to me asking about it felt null

Riding the fence on Kokichi. Keeping the door open

Nah, I could see it as Kira who sees what skills aren't in play, assumes that the followers also got the same info, and is just trying to tell followers what to do to identify him.

Not a high likelihood world, and I didn't look at that post and think "this looks like Kira coaching," but I could see it being a thing.

More on the fence stuff

Lorne... when you wrote 28 did you know that only Kira can see what skills are in play and not the followers?

How do you know only Kira can see the skills in play?

VOTE: Kawaii

Why does Kawaii get a vote for not reading the rules but not me, especially when you just said I could be Kira?

So yeah... a lot of this is just me getting a vibe that Vander is trying to seem like a proactive townie while really not contributing much of his own stuff. When he is providing he's arguing why people can go either alignment. The skills comment is probably the most scummy thing here along with the Kawaii vote

VOTE: Vanderscamp

Good analysis. What do you think of Gimli saying they were the towniest so far despite all this?

[Save The Dragons]

starting to have doubts on kokichi

Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?

i originally tr you for doing the same thing you did in village but then i realized you were doing something weird in village and this is entirely different. iirc you weren't scumreading me for shitposting you were just trying to get reactions. initially. then you were scumreading me for shitposting.

here it looks like you could have just come up with a fake scumread on me and when pressed on it realized you had already done something similar in village where you eventually were scumreading me and you backed off to try and not bring so much attention to yourself, because someone like gimli who played in that game too could fact check you easily.

it's not really a strong read it just kind of makes me go hmm

[Kokichi Oma]

but I feel that meg might have openclaimed kira alignment, and it's still not a good flip because we should be focused solely on kira hunting.

It is a good flip, we need to focus on anyone who is Kira/Kira aligned, not exclusively Kira

Agreed, going for people who are just kira can lead to more miselim's cause we could be overlooking things by not looking for followers too.

[Kokichi Oma]

they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature

is this softing to kira

Pretty sure signature stuff is against rules so I don't think that's the case.

[Kokichi Oma]

I would be down to kill anyone who talks about mechanics too much

Who do you think is the towniest so far?

[Kokichi Oma]

(koki, mala, kawaii) imo

You've figured us all out. I am their Ultimate Supreme Leader.

[Kokichi Oma]

starting to have doubts on kokichi

Because you saw other people voting for me? or what?

i originally tr you for doing the same thing you did in village but then i realized you were doing something weird in village and this is entirely different. iirc you weren't scumreading me for shitposting you were just trying to get reactions. initially. then you were scumreading me for shitposting.

here it looks like you could have just come up with a fake scumread on me and when pressed on it realized you had already done something similar in village where you eventually were scumreading me and you backed off to try and not bring so much attention to yourself, because someone like gimli who played in that game too could fact check you easily.

it's not really a strong read it just kind of makes me go hmm

I scumread anyone who tries to take beginning of the game back to RVS, which it looked like you were trying to do. But, I realized that's NAI for you which is why I unvoted.

[Save The Dragons]

now you're cooking with gas

[Gimli]

they literally put 'i'm death, straight up' in the signature

is this softing to kira

Pretty sure signature stuff is against rules so I don't think that's the case.

How do you know it's not the case? It can totally be the case. All I know is that I wasn't seeing this signature, then I refreshed it and there it was. Even if we exclude the signature, the posting is making sense as signaling just the same. It's weird cryptic phrasing.

Idk why you're so quick to disregard that as nothing.

[Save The Dragons]

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