Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[Korina]

VC 1.3

Doctor Drew (2):

MegAzumarill, Botanical Rat

Gimli (2):

Korina, Empathice

Morning Tweet (1):

TemporalLich

TemporalLich (1):

Gimli

Save The Dragons (1):

Morning Tweet

Enchant (1):

DragonEater70

DragonEater70 (1):

Enchant

Nono (0):

Clone (0):

Radical Rat (0):

Ranger (0):

Flea The Magician (0):

KawaiiKame (0):

MegAzumarill (0):

Empathice (0):

imaginality (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

Not Voting (9):

Nono, Clone, Save the Dragons, Ranger, Flea The Magician, KawaiiKame, Doctor Drew, imaginality, Kyoko Kirigiri

With

17

known votes, it takes

9

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-03-22 16:20:00)

Moderator Notes:

Clone and Ranger have not confirmed yet. They both have about (expired on 2023-03-10 05:20:00) to confirm before I start seeking replacement.

Nightmare

TemporalLich is voting for:

Save the Dragons (1), KawaiiKame (1).

KawaiiKame is voting for:

Botanical Rat (1), Empathice (1)

Kyoko Kirigi is voting for:

Kyoko Kirigiri (1), Flea the Magician (1)

Enchant is voting for:

Enchant (1)

DragonEater70 is voting for:

Save the Dragons (2), KawaiiKame (2), TemporalLich (1), Gimli (1)

Current tallies are:
- StD, KawaiiKame at 2 votes.
- Botanical Rat, Empathice, Kyoko Kirigiri, Flea The Magician, Enchant at 1 vote.

Nobody is confirmed to run the nightmare.

With

17

votes present, it takes

9

of them to ensure someone runs the nightmare.

At day end, all currently voted players will Run the Nightmare.

Pronoun Key

Korina - They/Them
Maruchan - She/Her
DragonEater70 - He/Him
Nono - No preference.
Clone - He/Him
Save The Dragons - He/Him
Botanical Rat - They/Them || He/She
Radical Rat - They/Them
biancospino - He/She
Gimli - He/Him
Ranger - She/Her
Flea The Magician - Fae/Faer
KawaiiKame - No preference.
MegAzumarill - No preference.
Doctor Drew - He/Him
TemporalLich - No preference.
Morning Tweet - She/Her
Enchant - No preference.
Empathice - He/They
imaginality - He/They
Kyoko Kirigiri - She/Her

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

the 7 we choose will choose someone amongst themselves and vote for an invention type (what skill they wanna give) probably and they will receive 1 shot of it

That's what I understood

even though I wouldn't put it beyond design that scum has some mechanics related to the nightmares - cause of the name and theme of the game mainly and cause event sabotage is a thing I would definitely add if I was designing this kind of setup. So we have to consider the possibility of that hidden stuff that might happen - maybe if a scum gets in?

[Enchant]

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

[KawaiiKame]

the 7 we choose will choose someone amongst themselves and vote for an invention type (what skill they wanna give) probably and they will receive 1 shot of it

That's what I understood

even though I wouldn't put it beyond design that scum has some mechanics related to the nightmares - cause of the name and theme of the game mainly and cause event sabotage is a thing I would definitely add if I was designing this kind of setup. So we have to consider the possibility of that hidden stuff that might happen - maybe if a scum gets in?

We will need to keep scum out of the Nightmare to avoid the possibility of anything bad happening, which is why we only should vote in who we believe is town

[KawaiiKame]

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

Do you feel vig is a negative utility role?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

obviously

so that goes back to the question why wouldn't you want yourself to be in there? If you're town, to your perspective you're the only one who you know that is a town

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

obviously was to your first comment.

not about vig being a negative utility.

[MegAzumarill]

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

You should put me in, so I can use the vig
HURT: MegAzumarill

[KawaiiKame]

obviously

so that goes back to the question why wouldn't you want yourself to be in there? If you're town, to your perspective you're the only one who you know that is a town

I didn't know self-voting was allowed

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

[Enchant]

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

Do you feel vig is a negative utility role?

No.

[Enchant]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I surprise you, but in most cases roles like these doesh't work in ELO so your logic are faulty.

[MegAzumarill]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I'd argue that town potentially losing in elo just because a particular member of their faction is alive over the others. (I.e. Gimli just gets autohammered by scum in elo and loses)
Although it's also just fairly standard procedure to disable voting manipulation in elo anyway, so doesn't really mean much either way.

May be relevant for gimli to confirm whether or not his role is making him hated or if it's something else.

[MegAzumarill]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I'd argue that town potentially losing in elo just because a particular member of their faction is alive over the others. (I.e. Gimli just gets autohammered by scum in elo and loses)

would be less likely than a hated scum

Although it's also just fairly standard procedure to disable voting manipulation in elo anyway, so doesn't really mean much either way.

May be relevant for gimli to confirm whether or not his role is making him hated or if it's something else.

EBWOP

[DragonEater70]

oh and also can you write 1 line why you town read each of those 4 people you voted for?

I just sheeped Temporal lich with StD.
Kawaii town pings me for paystyle.
TP is trying to gamesolve and be a town leader
Explained the rest I think.

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I surprise you, but in most cases roles like these doesh't work in ELO so your logic are faulty.

Why wouldn't it? Ans also wouldn't mod say so in advance?

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I'd argue that town potentially losing in elo just because a particular member of their faction is alive over the others. (I.e. Gimli just gets autohammered by scum in elo and loses)
Although it's also just fairly standard procedure to disable voting manipulation in elo anyway, so doesn't really mean much either way.

May be relevant for gimli to confirm whether or not his role is making him hated or if it's something else.

Good point.
@Gimli is it your role?

[Enchant]

Because it forces police elimination on player which is unfun.

Mod probably say it. In Role PM. Did you ask Gimli?

[KawaiiKame]

so that goes back to the question why wouldn't you want yourself to be in there? If you're town, to your perspective you're the only one who you know that is a town

HURT: Rat, Empath, KawaiiKame

[DragonEater70]

Because it forces police elimination on player which is unfun.

Mod probably say it. In Role PM. Did you ask Gimli?

I just did

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Enchant

okay Enchant is acting scummy, 97 feels OMGUSy and 102 is just trying way too hard to get into the nightmare at the expense of other players

109 combined with 114 does seem like a sort of town mindset among the nightmare vote, but is very solvey so it is worth nightmare voting imo

and kyoko seems to have solvey vibes to me according to an ISO skim

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, DragonEater70, Kyoko Kirigiri

[Enchant]

I don't know who thinked that OMGUS is scummy and writed this on wiki (now people parrot this as universal scumread without thinking), but if someone thinks that selfvoting for PR is scummy, then they DESERVE the vote in response.

[Enchant]

I got fed up by this from coalition and i will be mad if you force me to go in this again.

[Empathice]

I don't know who thinked that OMGUS is scummy and writed this on wiki (now people parrot this as universal scumread without thinking), but if someone thinks that selfvoting for PR is scummy, then they DESERVE the vote in response.

Wait your vote on Eater was serious?

[Enchant]

Of course