Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[Korina]

VC 1.6

Doctor Drew (3):

MegAzumarill, Botanical Rat, Clone

Gimli (3):

Korina, DragonEater70, Ranger

DragonEater70 (2):

Enchant, Gimli

TemporalLich (1):

imaginality

imaginality (1):

TemporalLich

Botanical Rat (1):

Flea The Magician

Save The Dragons (1):

Morning Tweet

Flea The Magician (0):

Enchant (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

Nono (0):

Clone (0):

Ranger (0):

KawaiiKame (0):

MegAzumarill (0):

Empathice (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

Not Voting (6):

Nono, Save the Dragons, KawaiiKame, Doctor Drew, Kyoko Kirigiri, Empathice

With

17

known votes, it takes

9

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-03-22 16:20:00)

Moderator Notes:

Please let me know if there are any errors in any VCs. These are hard to make, and I am prone to errors as a result.

Nightmare

Kyoko Kirigi is voting for:

Kyoko Kirigiri (1), Flea the Magician (1)

Enchant is voting for:

Enchant (1)

MegAzumarill is voting for:

MegAzumarill (1)

DragonEater70 is voting for:

Save the Dragons (1), KawaiiKame (1), TemporalLich (1), Gimli (1), Empathice (1), DragonEater70 (1)

imgainality is voting for:

imaginality (1), Morning Tweet (1), DragonEater70 (2), Enchant (2)

TemporalLich is voting for:

Save the Dragons (2), KawaiiKame (2), DragonEater70 (3), Kyoko Kirigiri (2), Gimli (2)

Flea The Magician is voting for:

Flea The Magician (2), Gimli (2), Morning Tweet (2), Kyoko Kirigiri (3)

KawaiiKame is voting for:

Empathice (2), Enchant (3), KawaiiKame (3), Botanical Rat (2)

Save the Dragons is voting for:

Save the Dragons (3), Enchant (4), Gimli (3), Botanical Rat (3)

Ranger is voting for:

Save The Dragons (4), Doctor Drew (1), Botanical Rat (4), Empathice (3)


Current tallies are:

Confirmed:

6 Votes:

5 Votes:

4 Votes:

Enchant, Botanical Rat, Save The Dragons

3 Votes:

KawaiiKame, DragonEater70, Gimli, Kyoko Kirigiri, Empathice

2 Votes:

Flea the Magician, Morning Tweet

1 Vote:

MegAzumarill, TemporalLich, imaginality, Doctor Drew

With

17

votes present, it takes

9

of them to ensure someone runs the nightmare.

At day end, asnoetaeosnrtanoetanoe -

who knows anymore. This is not game relevant, but I can't be bothered to figure out who's running atm.

Pronoun Key

Korina - They/Them
Maruchan - She/Her
DragonEater70 - He/Him
Nono - No preference.
Clone - He/Him
Save The Dragons - He/Him
Botanical Rat - They/Them || He/She
Radical Rat - They/Them
biancospino - He/She
Gimli - He/Him
Ranger - She/Her
Flea The Magician - Fae/Faer
KawaiiKame - No preference.
MegAzumarill - No preference.
Doctor Drew - He/Him
TemporalLich - No preference.
Morning Tweet - She/Her
Enchant - No preference.
Empathice - He/They
imaginality - He/They
Kyoko Kirigiri - She/Her

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Kyoko, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Empath, DragonEater

[MegAzumarill]

Not really sure how to parse imaginalities opening here because it feels very forceful and I don't think scum would draw that attention to themselves but also I don't think town has reason to do that.

Reason to do what, exactly?

Empath, what do you mean by the fn bit

Having moderately scummy players is ideal for making use of FN so Rat's comment has value.

I mean it feels like making a mountain out of a common occurence (discussing RVS) and making a read purely off of that feels a bit unnatural

I get you said that but you followed it up with that if that wasn't the case then FN is the best option. Do you think FN is just the best option?

[TemporalLich]

@mod: my name appears three times on the VC for some arcane reason, I'm currently voting for imaginality

[TemporalLich]

oh nvm it was edited, oops

[DragonEater70]

@Mod

Does the Nightmare take place in the main thread or a PT?

And are scum in the Nightmare still allowed to talk to their partners?

In a separate PT that I will send to all players involved at the start of night.

And yes, scum are allowed to talk with their partners while alive. Being in the nightmare doesn’t prevent you from submitting actions.

This has been edited to reflect a correction. I’m at work and quickly typed n2 without thinking. Nightmare Runners will be sent their PT at night-start, a little bit before I post the flip. They do not get their PT at n2, for n1 runners LOL.

Appreciate the clarification.

[Empathice]

Not really sure how to parse imaginalities opening here because it feels very forceful and I don't think scum would draw that attention to themselves but also I don't think town has reason to do that.

Reason to do what, exactly?

Empath, what do you mean by the fn bit

Having moderately scummy players is ideal for making use of FN so Rat's comment has value.

I mean it feels like making a mountain out of a common occurence (discussing RVS) and making a read purely off of that feels a bit unnatural

I get you said that but you followed it up with that if that wasn't the case then FN is the best option. Do you think FN is just the best option?

I Took it more as they didn't like TL deflecting blame to RVS.

FN is by far the most powerful option but Vig is close behind and doesn't require putting scummier players in the nightmare.

[Korina]

@mod: my name appears three times on the VC for some arcane reason, I'm currently voting for imaginality

I have realized this, and fixed all occurrences of double or triple voters.

[DragonEater70]

empath I can't follow your line of thinking

so you think enchant is scummy cause he voted someone for a possible rvs vote while saying it was a bad vote?

I Thought Enchant was scummy because voting Eater for an obvious RVS vote seems ridiculous to me (Although if Eater RVSed someone who was v:la or such that would be a different story.) and they contradicted themselves. Eater seemingly claiming that their vote was not RVS has given me second thoughts.

I never claimed it wasn't RVS.

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: dragoneater

[Ranger]

HURT: Enchant
Mmm power

No equivalent of a 'MAD KING' declaration, 2/10 opener.
HURT: Ranger

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat}
{Empathice}
{Morning Tweet, TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70, Kyoko Kirigiri}
{MegAzumarill}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant}
{Gimli}

P4.

[Ranger]

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat}
{Empathice, TemporalLich}
{Morning Tweet}
{DragonEater70, Kyoko Kirigiri}
{MegAzumarill}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant}
{Gimli}

P5.

[DragonEater70]

LAMIST for the first post because they saw someone had already answered but still posted their own answer anyhow which is of no pro-town value but which does offer a chance to show people "hey everyone, look, I'm a nice helpful townie".

Scummy because the first rule of RVS is you don't talk about RVS. I mean, it's one thing to not have any actual reads yet but it seems overexplainy to feel the need to justify it like that compared to give an RVSy bullshit scumread which might help spark reactions or progress things in some way.

Disagree with the LAMIST point - I often explain things somebody asked only to find they were explained just a post after.
I understand your other point though. I'll look into it tomorrow as I'm heading to bed.

Botanic Rat's post seems like words for the sake of words. We don't want scum to be in the Nightmare? Well duh.

Agreed, which is part of why I think Gimli's TR on them is pure BS.


Imaginality is +town at the moment even though I don't 100% agree with everything they say.

[Ranger]

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{Morning Tweet}
{DragonEater70}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{MegAzumarill}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant, Gimli}

P6.

[DragonEater70]

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{Morning Tweet}
{DragonEater70}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{MegAzumarill}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant, Gimli}

P6.

So nothing I've ever said was AI at all?

[DragonEater70]

Oh NVM he's at page 6.

[DragonEater70]

She*

[Ranger]

KawaiiKame also has towny vibes and also is pretty game solvey with their nightmare votes

Sorry, I really don't see this. I agree with the take KawaiiKame's forcing towniness. (Sidenote; I've a dislike for the acronym associated since it's uncomfortably close to ableist imo.)

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{Morning Tweet}
{DragonEater70}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{MegAzumarill}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant, Gimli}

P7.

[Ranger]

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Morning Tweet}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant, Gimli}

P8.

[Ranger]

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Morning Tweet}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone, Flea The Magician}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant, Gimli}

P9.

[Ranger]

I think DE is behaving well here and I think townreading the thread makes a lot of sense since most players have indeed been towny

I agree with the sentiment. imaginality's actually my null line rn. I just don't think you're town from it.

{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Morning Tweet}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone, Flea The Magician}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality}
{Gimli}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant}

P10.

HURT: Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice, TemporalLich, Ranger, DragonEater70
My current 7.

[Save The Dragons]

I wonder what I can do to tank rangers townread of me

[Ranger]

Caught up.
{Save The Dragons, Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice}
{TemporalLich}
{DragonEater70}
{Morning Tweet}
{Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Clone, Flea The Magician}
{MegAzumarill}
{imaginality}
{Gimli}
{KawaiiKame, Enchant}
Unchanged since last, but currently holds.

I've liked the content of the top three tiers most.
MT/Clone tiers are promising, but need more posts.
Kyoko/Meg tiers mixed, but lean town.
imaginality null/ambivalent.

Gimli not guaranteed scum, but haven't liked his posts mostly. (Exception was 227, and only there.)
Kawaii/Enchant both look like scum.

[TemporalLich]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Kyoko Kirigiri, Gimli, Ranger

DragonEater70's repeated waffling on whether his vote is serious or not is extremely concerning and definitely unfit for the nightmare. I'm willing to vote dragoneater as of now, as the waffling completely shatters my foundation for dragoneater's townread (that he is good at solving).

Ranger on the other hand is posting a lot of lead rists for a catchup and the vibes I get from those lists are towny.

KawaiiKame does have towny vibes but I did an ISO skim on them and they have some reads but I don't see any scumreads from KawaiiKame. 242 feels more likely genuine than not.

pedit: good reasoning, though DragonEater's waffling discredits his solvey vibes and I indeed do like Gimli's vibe and posts

I can definitely see KawaiiKame being scum, but I still have a low confidence townread there (the scumminess comes from a concerning lack of scumreads)

[Korina]

Lorem