Mini 2292: Anything uPick - Game Over!

[Pink Ball]

PB you targetted Kokichi right

Yes

[Alisae]

if kokichi was a target for a bus drive with marashu, wouldn't you have succ marashu instead?

[Wavelength]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

[Alisae]

Pink Ball is probably Kirby - Serial Killer Blob of Death

if this was really the case I don't think they be like "i'm not claiming flavor because I want flavor to be revealed on flip cuz it's funny" but it does make sense

Do you have other reads?

[Pink Ball]

Oh I was thinking that the power could work like "I target Ali and Kokichi -> Ali's action is targeted to Kokichi"
If would make sense with Kokichi's role

[Alisae]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

redirect makes person a target person b
me and dragons both targetted marashu but instead both of our actions failed. I don't know what to call this role, it is within the realm of redirection, but it's not a redirector

[Wavelength]

Oh I was thinking that the power could work like "I target Ali and Kokichi -> Ali's action is targeted to Kokichi"
If would make sense with Kokichi's role

But that would not explain why the Dragon's track on Marashu also failed

[Alisae]

I think we should all be in agreement that this redirector needs to be found and needs to die

[Wavelength]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

redirect makes person a target person b
me and dragons both targetted marashu but instead both of our actions failed. I don't know what to call this role, it is within the realm of redirection, but it's not a redirector

Quick check on the wiki says that the role that I was thinking of would actually be a "Deflector" https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Deflector instead of a Redirector

[Alisae]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

redirect makes person a target person b
me and dragons both targetted marashu but instead both of our actions failed. I don't know what to call this role, it is within the realm of redirection, but it's not a redirector

Quick check on the wiki says that the role that I was thinking of would actually be a "Deflector" https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Deflector instead of a Redirector

mafia kill ignores the deflector me thinks

[Pink Ball]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

redirect makes person a target person b
me and dragons both targetted marashu but instead both of our actions failed. I don't know what to call this role, it is within the realm of redirection, but it's not a redirector

Marashu roleblocks one of you two, redirector redirects one of you two to Kokichi

[Alisae]

@Kuribo

- why do you target LLD n1?

[Wavelength]

I think we should all be in agreement that this redirector needs to be found and needs to die

I don't think that it can be:
Stephen A Smith
Flea The Magician
Pink Ball
Penguin Power
Kokichi

As they each have their night actions Proven / were taken by Pink Ball

But from my POV, it has to be in:
Alisae
Lady Lambdadelta
Ircher
kuribo
(I know it wasn't me, but I guess my result on Ircher is not proven.)

I don't think that Alisae redirect actions from Marahu -> Kokichi, then starts the day by claiming that their action failed on Marashu? I am not sure how she would know confidently that actions on Kokichi would have come back as having failed before the Dragons claimed their action failed (unless the scum team submitted a kill on Kokichi, and targeted kokichi or marashu with an invest, which feels like it is never a world that happened) -- so she is cleared from being the deflector imo.

Gonna look at Kuribo's iso to see if their night actions make sense

[Pink Ball]

Pretty sure it's just ircher and he's actually not a miller

[Wavelength]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

redirect makes person a target person b
me and dragons both targetted marashu but instead both of our actions failed. I don't know what to call this role, it is within the realm of redirection, but it's not a redirector

Quick check on the wiki says that the role that I was thinking of would actually be a "Deflector" https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Deflector instead of a Redirector

mafia kill ignores the deflector me thinks

Oh right. A Deflector as stated by the wiki would have sent the kill to me in addition to the mask...

Role Madness makes me brain hurt

[Wavelength]

Looking for "LLD" in Kuribo's iso does not give me much, he did not appear to talk about her very much until this day phase

@LLD quack quack

This did stand out though as a possible target crumb?

Kuribo was there a rhyme or reason behind this?

If this is a crumb, did you also crumb your Alisae target? IF it is not, then why did you quack at her lol?

[Alisae]

Gonna look at Kuribo's iso to see if their night actions make sense

I can tell you that they don't but what gives me pause is how Kuribo has been interacting with the events that have been going on which to me screams uninformed and reading comprehension being in the toilet.

n1 if I'm a doc I'm not docing LLD, I think Village probably happy if the player flips. Their abilities are also out in the open which makes them less likely to be a kill.
n2 ig I can buy him wanting to doc me but if I see a player screaming "I'M A FULL VIG AND I GET TO SHOOT AND ACTIVATE MY NO YOU CAN'T SHOOT/INTERACT BUTTON" then I'm probably want to Dragons to be alive on the next day phase? They're more clear than I am and probably always the obvious shot in this situation.

Like D2 he writes this

And is there a reason we're assuming someone was rolestopped rather than the disappearance being a janitor kill?

which I want to say is something that I feel like comes from uninformed > informed?

[Wavelength]

Oh

I was thinking about it as a scum rolestop and a scum redirector/busdriver being the last two scum.

But actually, a scum redirector targeting Marashu -> Kokichi and then Dragons -> Me would answer both

redirect makes person a target person b
me and dragons both targetted marashu but instead both of our actions failed. I don't know what to call this role, it is within the realm of redirection, but it's not a redirector

Quick check on the wiki says that the role that I was thinking of would actually be a "Deflector" https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Deflector instead of a Redirector

mafia kill ignores the deflector me thinks

Oh right. A Deflector as stated by the wiki would have sent the kill to me in addition to the mask...

Role Madness makes me brain hurt

Wait...

but it is a deflector causing both the Marashu stuff from N1, and me getting the mast, then that would imply that it DID redirect Ali's kill but DID NOT redirect the mafia kill to me. Which feels wrong.

I am back to thinking that it might be two different abilities. One Rolestopper for the Marashu stuff, and then a deflector/bus driver for the mask

[Alisae]

Wave I like PB saying that ceph was just blocked and I was just redirected to Kokichi

[Wavelength]

Wave I like PB saying that ceph was just blocked and I was just redirected to Kokichi

But that does not make sense for scum to redirect Flea to me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

yeah doctoring me n1 when i have a claimed and proven DV and the Meow ability making my role not rwally able to have much more text in it, after i killed a townie d1

feels wrong

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i also want to say i feel like ali was a maybe busser of Maru but it's hard to tell that claim was ass lol

[Alisae]

i also want to say i feel like ali was a maybe busser of Maru but it's hard to tell that claim was ass lol

what do you think of wave

[Wavelength]

i also want to say i feel like ali was a maybe busser of Maru but it's hard to tell that claim was ass lol

This does not feel right to me, because the mech side of Maru dying originated from Ali. The dragons outed that their action failed on after Ali outed that her action failed on Maru, not the other way around.

This would imply she walked into the day ready to mech dunk on her partner Maru, which feels wrong to me.

[Alisae]

i also want to say i feel like ali was a maybe busser of Maru but it's hard to tell that claim was ass lol

This does not feel right to me, because the mech side of Maru dying originated from Ali. The dragons outed that their action failed on after Ali outed that her action failed on Maru, not the other way around.

This would imply she walked into the day ready to mech dunk on her partner Maru, which feels wrong to me.

tbh if I'm a wolf I probably would dunk Maru but
not like how it played out?
I can't imagine me fakeclaiming vigi as a wolf ever.