Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[fireisredsir]

she was suspicious of shea but im not really that confident she was the best choice for death if that was the only reason?

[fireisredsir]

Town

Firebringer, petapan, Aristeia, furtiveglance, Klick, Morning Tweet
Black, redFF, Alisae
SirCakez?, fireisredsir?
Mistyx, Gimli, Asri, Thestatusquo

Scum

final reads, prior to cakez being outed and flipped late d2. she died n2

[fireisredsir]

did we ever figure out who she vannilized

[fireisredsir]

actually should look like this:

Town

CSF, Firebringer, furtiveglance, Morning Tweet Klick,
petapan, Alisae, redFF, Asri Teroka, Gimli

thestatusquo, fireisredsir,

MistyX, Black
SirCakez, ActionDan

Scum

this was ari's last readlist d2

[fireisredsir]

i think CSF would never really get elimmed due to the way she handled scum d1 and d2 but that can't be the only reason bc there were other slots that were as cleared or more

[Klick]

i got vanilla'd

i was formerly zote the mighty, ender of scum, carrier of villages, blah blah blah whatever it doesn't matter anymore im officially washed up

i could poke a player every night. this had no effect. i targeted red n1 and asri last night

[fireisredsir]

There is very little evidence that suggests I'm capable of playing a remotely convincing scum game in the year 2023

btw this line is pretty unconvincing to me bc specifically in this case i think whoever it is would have to have leveled up their scum game significantly

i feel like i have a decent grasp on gimli and furtive meta and both feel a lot closer to their town meta and i would argue way outside of any scumrange they've shown (except furtive recently has been much closer to his scumplay but i do think early he was pretty towny)

and i don't really think you're that far removed from what you did in white flag. and in that game you specifically talked about wanting to have a game where you could prove that you were better at scum than people's perception of you

[fireisredsir]

i got vanilla'd

i was formerly zote the mighty, ender of scum, carrier of villages, blah blah blah whatever it doesn't matter anymore im officially washed up

i could poke a player every night. this had no effect. i targeted red n1 and asri last night

oh ok ty

don't think it matters but was just curious

[fireisredsir]

eh ok re-looked at white flag and i guess it is still pretty well past that

but i think gimli is just as out of range. i think proactivity and like... getting in his own head with excitement about stuff is a big tell for him and he's displayed a lot of that here

and i can't find any examples of him convincingly duplicating that as scum

[fireisredsir]

i guess there's been cases where i miscleared someone by thinking they exited scumrange, and then later in the game they dropped way off into closer to their scum meta but i handwaved it away by trusting the read on the early posting

but i don't really get how furtive can be scum mechanically

[Gimli]

I think it can be furtive mechanically if he is 3p

making it a gated jailkeeper turns it into a claimable role in rolemadness

[Gimli]

I really don't think it's fireR anymore, I think his solving is too good for that

[Gimli]

furtive is avoiding this gameday and is avoiding this game a fair bit and has no interest in solving and is starting to look exactly like what you said here, a player who had a good start but couldn't keep up and faded and they're scum

every game I play on this site is the same thing btw, the wolf is always the one who isn't playing. tbf that's why I thought it was you

[fireisredsir]

i don't really think thats a good metric for finding scum but i guess it depends on who you play with

[fireisredsir]

in most of my games its the opposite but i also usually specifically join playerlists with people who are good at scum lol

[Gimli]

well I've never seen him this disengaged with any game

[fireisredsir]

in this case it seems more likely to be correct yes i just meant in general

[furtiveglance]

I don't have much to say

Klick is just a guess and a feeling

I was avoiding the thread because I was busy

[fireisredsir]

you know how cakez didn't activate his ability that makes him ascetic for the night when he did the kill

and people were all like haha silly cakez how could he be so dumb to not do that

i don't really think shea and cakez would like, forget that

what if it was intentional

[fireisredsir]

I don't have much to say

Klick is just a guess and a feeling

I was avoiding the thread because I was busy

i think you have to try to show why klick

someone is scum here, try to find them

if you're town you're not getting out of making a choice here so suck it up

[furtiveglance]

you know how cakez didn't activate his ability that makes him ascetic for the night when he did the kill

and people were all like haha silly cakez how could he be so dumb to not do that

i don't really think shea and cakez would like, forget that

what if it was intentional

It was non-consecutive which could explain it

[furtiveglance]

I don't have much to say

Klick is just a guess and a feeling

I was avoiding the thread because I was busy

i think you have to try to show why klick

someone is scum here, try to find them

if you're town you're not getting out of making a choice here so suck it up

Meh

[fireisredsir]

what does that mean

[furtiveglance]

I want to no lim today anyway

[fireisredsir]

what if we decide we want to lim you