Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[TemporalLich]

changing from a townread to a scumread purely because of a scumcase (that is well founded but basically says that Doctor Drew could be convincing scum) would be a reactive read

pedit: as far as comparison to AB:LoAF goes... I'd say Doctor Drew is less towny in this game than in AB:LoAF... and Doctor Drew was scum in AB:LoAF. I'm guessing Doctor Drew actually being able to pocket me well and convincingly is a major factor in my Doctor Drew townread... but I'm not scumreading for that because that would not sense make

[Gimli]

I think ranger's read on enchant comes from a place of superficiality and scumsolving, but I'm yet to really dwelve into everything she posted to lean either way. the meta read was so weak that she didn't even know he was town in the game they played, and was having a strong enough impression of him to have him at the bottom of her reads. I thought that was a little odd, and MT's post about it put in words where my uneasyness with that read was coming from.

[Gimli]

changing from a townread to a scumread purely because of a scumcase (that is well founded but basically says that Doctor Drew could be convincing scum) would be a reactive read

pedit: as far as comparison to AB:LoAF goes... I'd say Doctor Drew is less towny in this game than in AB:LoAF... and Doctor Drew was scum in AB:LoAF. I'm guessing Doctor Drew actually being able to pocket me well and convincingly is a major factor in my Doctor Drew townread... but I'm not scumreading for that because that would not sense make

yes, I understand how you operate, but I think DE's scumcase against DD is about the most solid case we had so far in d1. if that convinced you, that's fine and it's not nonsensical if you do start to scumread him now.

[TemporalLich]

actually I think nullread is good for now as I can't sort Doctor Drew now...

but definitely should not be in the nightmare, somehow I didn't think of that instantly, dang it

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Gimli, Ranger, Morning Tweet, DragonEater70

[TemporalLich]

but yeah I skimmed Doctor Drew's ISO trying to look for Doctor Drew's scumreads and his DragonEater70 scumread is purely based on a DragonEater70 and Gimli associative

[Enchant]

I am not convinced that Dragon is town

[Gimli]

I have a towncore of DE, TL, kyoko kirigiri and MT atm.

[TemporalLich]

Doctor Drew, who do you scumread and why?

A scumread based on an associative is kinda weak on D1 tbh

[Korina]

VC 1.12

Doctor Drew (4):

MegAzumarill, Botanical Rat, Clone, DragonEater70

DragonEater70 (2):

Enchant, Doctor Drew

Gimli (2):

Korina, Ranger

imaginality (1):

TemporalLich, Gimli

TemporalLich (1):

imaginality

Botanical Rat (1):

Flea The Magician

Save The Dragons (1):

Morning Tweet

Flea The Magician (0):

Enchant (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

Nono (0):

Clone (0):

Ranger (0):

KawaiiKame (0):

MegAzumarill (0):

Empathice (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

Not Voting (5):

Nono, KawaiiKame, Kyoko Kirigiri, Empathice, Save the Dragons

With

17

known votes, it takes

9

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-03-22 16:20:00)

Moderator Notes:

- Please let me know if there are any errors in any VCs. These are hard to make, and I am prone to errors as a result.
- Seeking replacement for Nono.
- KawaiiKame is due for a prod in (expired on 2023-03-11 23:06:48).
- biancospino of Botanical Rat is V/LA until Monday.

Nightmare

Kyoko Kirigi is voting for:

Kyoko Kirigiri (1), Flea the Magician (1)

Enchant is voting for:

Enchant (1)

MegAzumarill is voting for:

MegAzumarill (1)

imgainality is voting for:

imaginality (1), Morning Tweet (1), DragonEater70 (2), Enchant (2)

Save the Dragons is voting for:

Save the Dragons (3), Enchant (4), Gimli (3), Botanical Rat (3)

Ranger is voting for:

Save The Dragons (x), Doctor Drew (x), Botanical Rat (x), Empathice (x), TemporalLich (+), Ranger (+), DragonEater70 (+)

Doctor Drew is voting for:

Gimli (+), MegAzumarill (+), Botanical Rat (+)

KawaiiKame is voting for:

Botanical Rat (x), Empathice (x), Kyoko Kirigiri (+), Ranger (+), Save the Dragons (+), TemporalLich (+), KawaiiKame (x)

Flea The Magician is voting for:

Flea The Magician (x), Gimli (x), Save The Dragons (+), Kyoko Kirigiri (x), TemporalLich (+)

Morning Tweet is voting for:

TemporalLich, (x), Kyoko Kirigiri (x), Gimli (x), DragonEater70 (+), Doctor Drew (x)

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DragonEater70 is voting for:

TemporalLich (x), Kyoko Kirigiri (x), Morning Tweet (+), KawaiiKame (x), DragonEater70 (x), Empathice (x), Ranger (+)

TemporalLich is voting for:

Save the Dragons (x), KawaiiKame (x), Gimli (x), Ranger (x), Morning Tweet (+), DragonEater70 (+) || Doctor Drew (-)

Current tallies are:

Confirmed:

8 Votes:

7 Votes:

6 Votes:

TemporalLich, DragonEater70

5 Votes:

Botanical Rat, Save The Dragons, Gimli, Enchant, Kyoko Kirigiri,

4 Votes:

Ranger, Morning Tweet

3 Votes:

KawaiiKame, Empathice

2 Votes:

Flea the Magician, MegAzumarill, Doctor Drew

1 Vote:

imaginality

With

17

votes present, it takes

9

of them to ensure someone runs the nightmare.

At day end, everyone with four or more votes will Run the Nightmare[/i]

You may now reference my key, since I figured out how to make it work. A "+" means this player gained a vote, a "x" means this player remained neutral in number of votes, and a "-" means this player lost a vote. The double lines show who this player unvoted last. This effects VC 1.10 and onwards.

Pronoun Key

Korina - They/Them
Maruchan - She/Her
DragonEater70 - He/Him
Nono - No preference.
Clone - He/Him
Save The Dragons - He/Him
Botanical Rat - They/Them || He/She
Radical Rat - They/Them
biancospino - He/She
Gimli - He/Him
Ranger - She/Her
Flea The Magician - Fae/Faer
KawaiiKame - No preference.
MegAzumarill - No preference.
Doctor Drew - He/Him
TemporalLich - No preference.
Morning Tweet - She/Her
Enchant - No preference.
Empathice - He/They
imaginality - He/They
Kyoko Kirigiri - She/Her

[Korina]

Nono is being replaced due to not picking up the prod. If Nono posts before I find replacement, they can keep the slot.

Clone is being prodded too.

KawaiiKame is due to be prodded in ~5 hours.

[Korina]

Porkens replaces Nono, effective right now.

[Porkens]

Doctor Drew
TemporalLich
Morning Tweet

Gimli
Enchant
imaginality
Flea The Magician

DragonEater70
MegAzumarill

KawaiiKame
Empathice
Save the Dragons
Kyoko Kirigiri

Botanical Rat (Radical Rat + biancospino)
Clone
Ranger

VOTE: Ranger Join me.

HURT: Doctor Drew, TemporalLich, Morning Tweet

[Empathice]

As I said, Enchant is reminding me of Gnosia so if he was town there...

Weird, I just read the first 20 posts of Enchant's ISO on Gnosia and they have a completely different playstyle here. I think if anything, you should conclude that they have the opposite alignment here than they had in Gnosia.

It looks similar to me. A Bunch of mech talk with zero solving.

Gimli's 449 and 451 are a lot better than their previous posts but Gimli is still scummy overall.

@Ranger can you explain why TL moved so much in your readslist earlier?

[Empathice]

Doctor Drew
TemporalLich
Morning Tweet

Gimli
Enchant
imaginality
Flea The Magician

DragonEater70
MegAzumarill

KawaiiKame
Empathice
Save the Dragons
Kyoko Kirigiri

Botanical Rat (Radical Rat + biancospino)
Clone
Ranger

VOTE: Ranger Join me.

HURT: Doctor Drew, TemporalLich, Morning Tweet

If you're voting them for only posting readslists without giving any reasons then maybe look at your your own post.

In other words I want you to explain your Rat and Ranger scumreads.

[Porkens]

Rats intro felt really scummy to me and they didn’t pull up from that read while I skimmed through.

Ranger’s posts reek scum. The posting method they are following is super easy to do as scum.

[MegAzumarill]

been very busy eill catchup tomorrow most likely

[Ranger]

I am confused

I thought your play resembled Gnosia.
You stated you were traitor(scum) there. I believed this, and thought the similarity suspect.

You're clarifying that was a joke.
That triggers a resort.

From the resort, I see more town in you. Not enough to reverse the scumread, but enough to trigger a level of ambivalence, where I see town and scum in equal amounts.

I don't actually see a scum motivation for defending me?

It's easy to make that defense to look townier from it. It costs scum nothing to make, but gains them potential townpoints.

[Doctor Drew]

Rats intro felt really scummy to me and they didn’t pull up from that read while I skimmed through.

Ranger’s posts reek scum. The posting method they are following is super easy to do as scum.

Any posting method is easy to do as scum, especially early game. Also easy to do as town, I don't get this read.

[Porkens]

If you read her posts and see town then we just agree to disagree.

[TemporalLich]

Ranger is kind of towny but very solvey based on the lead rists

the elaboration in some of her posts is what makes me think Ranger is slightly towny rather than scummy, and I like the vibes from 466

so yeah all in all Ranger is somewhat trustworthy imo

[Ranger]

@Ranger can you explain why TL moved so much in your readslist earlier?

Temporal Lich?

I started the game with a read on TemporaLich which was ambivalent (maybe slightly below, maybe slightly above, don't quite remember the tier), because from page one, TemporalLich's entrance was relatively null, about equal to MegAzumarill's in feel. (MegAzumarill has since moved down. My current take is TL's was town and MegAzumarill's was scum reviewing those same openers now but at the time they were equal. However at the time it was vice-versa.)

For page two, TL's fluff posting was weird. The mech focus with easy StD read didn't impress me. The wishy-washy reads also looked bad, and 43 felt scum. Looking at them now, I feel more neutral or +town about them, but my first view was more +scum-leaning.

However, page three saw TL's posts improve. I instantly vibed with the solving of 50. 68 was favorable. This gave a marked improvement, but wasn't enough to locktown TemporalLich because the town markers were still relatively weak.

For page five, the next upgrade was 120. Given my own scumread on Enchant, I vibed with TemporalLich's post. His takes were reasonable, in a way I felt was more likely town. It was still not yet definitive since tone-wise I could see scum making it, but I thought it more +town than not.

The final push up to locktown came on page 15. TemporalLich's content remained "loosely about the same, neither worse nor better, still looking town", but the promotion to top tier came from a combination of gamestate and TL's 360 looking genuinely solvey to me. I liked 368 as followthrough, with the proof in 371/374--TemporalLich actually read the post in question and (apparently) correctly interpreted it. This was definitively +town to me, and I felt the engagement of Kyoko was pro-town.

From there, nothing TemporalLich has done has demoted him from his position, as I've been content with is content.

[Ranger]

Ranger’s posts reek scum. The posting method they are following is super easy to do as scum.

Weirdly, I get very strong scum pings of your posts being precisely this.

I'm looking and I can see your posts being either alignment, so I can see how you'd reach this conclusion as town, but it feels like you are doing a super-easy to do style as scum.

{Doctor Drew, Botanical Rat, Empathice, TemporalLich, DragonEater70}
{KawaiiKame, Kyoko Kirigiri}
{Gimli, Flea The Magician}
{Save The Dragons}
{imaginality, Enchant}
{Clone}
{Porkens}
{Morning Tweet}
{MegAzumarill}

[TemporalLich]

as for Porkens... the opening tells me null with a side of scum

[TemporalLich]

If you read her posts and see town then we just agree to disagree.

and this of course does not bode well...

[Ranger]

as for Porkens... the opening tells me null with a side of scum

Mostly my take. Mine is ambivalent with strong gutread of scum easy style.