Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[DragonEater70]

Enchant ISO:

You should put me in, otherwise these idiots will try to use vig.

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I surprise you, but in most cases roles like these doesh't work in ELO so your logic are faulty.

Only invention worth giving away first night is Friendly Neighbour.

This mech talk is not on the same level at all as in Gnosia and ABLOAF?
Still ig mech talk is aligning with Enchant's town meta.

EBWOP: added missing quotes.

[Korina]

VC 1.13

Doctor Drew (4):

MegAzumarill, Botanical Rat, Clone, DragonEater70

DragonEater70 (2):

Enchant, Doctor Drew

Gimli (2):

Korina, Ranger

imaginality (1):

TemporalLich, Gimli

TemporalLich (1):

imaginality

Botanical Rat (1):

Flea The Magician

Save The Dragons (1):

Morning Tweet

Ranger (0):

Porkens

Flea The Magician (0):

Enchant (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

Porkens (0):

Clone (0):

KawaiiKame (0):

MegAzumarill (0):

Empathice (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

Not Voting (5):

Porkens, KawaiiKame, Kyoko Kirigiri, Empathice, Save the Dragons

With

17

known votes, it takes

9

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-03-22 16:20:00)

Moderator Notes:

- Please let me know if there are any errors in any VCs. These are hard to make, and I am prone to errors as a result.
- biancospino of Botanical Rat is V/LA until Monday.
- Porkens replaces Nono.

Nightmare

Kyoko Kirigi is voting for:

Kyoko Kirigiri (1), Flea the Magician (1)

Enchant is voting for:

Enchant (1)

MegAzumarill is voting for:

MegAzumarill (1)

imgainality is voting for:

imaginality (1), Morning Tweet (1), DragonEater70 (2), Enchant (2)

Save the Dragons is voting for:

Save the Dragons (3), Enchant (4), Gimli (3), Botanical Rat (3)

Ranger is voting for:

Save The Dragons (x), Doctor Drew (x), Botanical Rat (x), Empathice (x), TemporalLich (+), Ranger (+), DragonEater70 (+)

Doctor Drew is voting for:

Gimli (+), MegAzumarill (+), Botanical Rat (+)

KawaiiKame is voting for:

Botanical Rat (x), Empathice (x), Kyoko Kirigiri (+), Ranger (+), Save the Dragons (+), TemporalLich (+), KawaiiKame (x)

Flea The Magician is voting for:

Flea The Magician (x), Gimli (x), Save The Dragons (+), Kyoko Kirigiri (x), TemporalLich (+)

Morning Tweet is voting for:

TemporalLich, (x), Kyoko Kirigiri (x), Gimli (x), DragonEater70 (+), Doctor Drew (x)

DragonEater70 is voting for:

TemporalLich (x), Kyoko Kirigiri (x), Morning Tweet (+), KawaiiKame (x), DragonEater70 (x), Empathice (x), Ranger (+)

TemporalLich is voting for:

Save the Dragons (x), KawaiiKame (x), Gimli (x), Ranger (x), Morning Tweet (+), DragonEater70 (+) || Doctor Drew (-)

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Porkens is voting for:

Doctor Drew (+), TemporalLich (+), Morning Tweet (+)

Current tallies are:

Confirmed:

8 Votes:

7 Votes:

TemporalLich

6 Votes:

DragonEater70

5 Votes:

Botanical Rat, Save The Dragons, Gimli, Enchant, Kyoko Kirigiri, Morning Tweet

4 Votes:

Ranger

3 Votes:

KawaiiKame, Empathice, Doctor Drew

2 Votes:

Flea the Magician, MegAzumarill

1 Vote:

imaginality

With

17

votes present, it takes

9

of them to ensure someone runs the nightmare.

At day end, everyone with four or more votes will Run the Nightmare[/i]

You may now reference my key, since I figured out how to make it work. A "+" means this player gained a vote, a "x" means this player remained neutral in number of votes, and a "-" means this player lost a vote. The double lines show who this player unvoted last. This effects VC 1.10 and onwards.

Pronoun Key

Korina - They/Them
Maruchan - She/Her
DragonEater70 - He/Him
Nono - No preference.
Clone - He/Him
Save The Dragons - He/Him
Botanical Rat - They/Them || He/She
Radical Rat - They/Them
biancospino - He/She
Gimli - He/Him
Ranger - She/Her
Flea The Magician - Fae/Faer
KawaiiKame - No preference.
MegAzumarill - No preference.
Doctor Drew - He/Him
TemporalLich - No preference.
Morning Tweet - She/Her
Enchant - No preference.
Empathice - He/They
imaginality - He/They
Kyoko Kirigiri - She/Her

[KawaiiKame]

@Mod V/LA today 3/12

[DragonEater70]

KawaiiKame does have towny vibes but I did an ISO skim on them and they have some reads but I don't see any scumreads from KawaiiKame. 242 feels more likely genuine than not.

pedit: good reasoning, though DragonEater's waffling discredits his solvey vibes and I indeed do like Gimli's vibe and posts

I can definitely see KawaiiKame being scum, but I still have a low confidence townread there (the scumminess comes from a concerning lack of scumreads)

It takes me a long ass time to scumread anyone, I have to have strong conviction to scumread someone initially and no one I know is explicitly scum to me as of now, I'm open to any and all possibilities but I feel it's best to see who I see as town and see who's left, I'm usually not confident in any/most of my reads, so many people makes it hard to know who is scum especially with everyone acting vaguely townie in my eyes, I will have to deeply analyze the game and see what I find

I'm town reading Rat, Empath, Enchant, Ranger, Save The Dragons, Temporal Lich
HURT: Rat, Empath, Enchant, Ranger,Save The Dragons, Temporal Lich , KawaiiKame
Tweet is below this line, I like how observant/solving she is in spite of only 3 posts, willing to trade in someone above with Tweet
Kyoko is below this line, I'm willing to trade someone out of the above line if I continue to like what she says in challenging people
Tweet/Kyoko exist in the same line interchangeably to be next in line in who I hurt vote into the Nightmare
9/17 town, let's see the 8/17 in P2

Hi Kawaii, I don't know if you've noticed but it kinda feels with those quotes of yourself like you are talking to yourself (especially since the reads are not really explained).
So I would actually love if you shared the reasoning behind these townreads you are mentioning here.
Like why are you TRing StD for instance?

[DragonEater70]

btw I had terrible sleep last night so I'm too tired to make a multi quote but I ISO'd Kawaii and I think they are towny but maybe not good enough at solving, so if a better candidate comes I will replace their nightmare vote with someone else.

[DragonEater70]

Unless Kawaii is just going to sheep town in nightmare, which is honestly not a horrible option?

[Gimli]

I think its safe to add me and I've done enough to be amongst your townreads.

I'm sending mine in a bit (kyoko, dragon eater, morning tweet, temporal lich) I think it has a very good chance of being all townies in it

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: porkens

[Gimli]

HURT: kyoko kirigiri, morning tweet, dragoneater, temporal lich, gimli

[Empathice]

thought I had missed something for a minute, im not one to get notifications, anywhere

lets do this

VOTE: Vote: Dr. Drew

still don't trust you especially not with those eyes

Yes, lets.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

so guys, I really had a very long day (not really a weekend for me)

and I'm super exhausted. I think I'll catch up and do the stuff I plan to do tomorrow night instead

[DragonEater70]

@Gimli - I feel like independently of meta you feel somewhat townie, but in comparison to our recent game it still feels very different. So I'm a bit conflicted, but I think I know how to solve it:

I've just finished reading this article by Mathdino. This article is about how it's important to actually listen to other people's opinions, especially in things like meta reading a player which the others might be more familiar with than say, I am.
So I am going to extend a question to Kyoko and Temporal Lich, who both seem to know Gimli's meta well: do you feel Gimli is townie by meta?
Actually I guess Lich already said yes, which is why I was thinking they know Gimli in the first place. So just Kyoko then.

But I'm willing to give Gimli a tentative TR until I get an answer (and until I do a full ISO of them this game).

[DragonEater70]

so guys, I really had a very long day (not really a weekend for me)

and I'm super exhausted. I think I'll catch up and do the stuff I plan to do tomorrow night instead

Hey no problem, just note I asked you two questions so feel free to answer them tomorrow.

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Temporal, Kyoko, Tweet, Gimli, Dragon, Empath, Ranger
For now.

[Gimli]

HURT: Temporal, Kyoko, Tweet, Gimli, Dragon, Empath, Ranger
For now.

I was very important town PR in that game so I was just projecting townie from the beginning. here I'm hated and also I have ways to resolve my slot that can be good. I'm softing here just because it won't matter, I don't think scum wants to kill me in this game given the majority etc elimination aspects of my role, being neg. utility and all.

[DragonEater70]

It's really funny that you are softing considering we're all PRs this game, but fine. I accept your softclaim.

[Gimli]

I said resolving myself

it means I go boom boom

[Gimli]

I'm not saying how that's the surprise

[DragonEater70]

I said resolving myself

it means I go boom boom

Suicide bombing?

[TemporalLich]

488 is a low effort post with nothing but buzzwords that anyone of any alignment could make but is more likely to be scummy than towny

Morning Tweet does indeed feel townie with her posts

506 is not a towny post imo (it feels like low efforting), but I still townread Gimli as that's only a drop in the bucket

So I am going to extend a question to Kyoko and Temporal Lich, who both seem to know Gimli's meta well: do you feel Gimli is townie by meta?

yeah meta is a part of why I townread Gimli, I get the same vibes I do from AB:LoAF

pedit: unusual softclaim but ok

ppedit: I thought supersaint at first lol

[Gimli]

I'm not saying how come on

[TemporalLich]

anyway it doesn't benefit us to role fish that softclaim

pedit: good idea

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Temporal, Kyoko, Tweet, Gimli, Dragon, Empath, Ranger
For now.

I was very important town PR in that game so I was just projecting townie from the beginning. here I'm hated and also I have ways to resolve my slot that can be good. I'm softing here just because it won't matter, I don't think scum wants to kill me in this game given the majority etc elimination aspects of my role, being neg. utility and all.

Btw this is a good meta tell that you are town.

[DragonEater70]

I'm not saying how come on

Okay okay, you were the one hinting though.

[DragonEater70]

506 is not a towny post imo (it feels like low efforting), but I still townread Gimli as that's only a drop in the bucket

Agreed.