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How can you believe someone is town if their reads are not geniune?In post 578, Empathice wrote:
This particular hypocrisy is very open and indicates a lack of self-consciousness that I find to be towny/TWTBAW.In post 560, Ranger wrote: Porkens's content could be either alignment. Hypocrisy is (sadly) notinherentlya scumtell. Being disingenuous is (sadly) not a scumtell. Having random takes which largely feel out of touch is not a scumtell. The main reason I feel Porkens is scum is he seems "off". His approach is heavyhanded, forced, and feels entirely artificial.
His content could come from either alignment.
The tone behind it makes me feel it's +scum.
Use the aforementioned "looks like they are solving but aren't solving" scumtell and look at TL. Their reads are the least genuine of anyone in this game. I Still believe they are probably town regardless though.In post 565, Ranger wrote: Lumping TemporalLich (one of the most efforting slots in the game who looks plenty town) in with Porkens (whose posts are filled with far less effort and is a main suspect) with the same exact justification (too wolf to be wolf) is a take I can't grasp.-
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What does this even mean?In post 579, Ranger wrote:
Not exactly.In post 569, Porkens wrote:So you are just gut reading me in 1000 words, cool.
.I believe your actions are +scum regardless of alignment
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That Ranger thinks Porken's actions are hurting town's chance of winning.In post 604, DragonEater70 wrote:
What does this even mean?In post 579, Ranger wrote:
Not exactly.In post 569, Porkens wrote:So you are just gut reading me in 1000 words, cool.
.I believe your actions are +scum regardless of alignment
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I literally hate this game, can't deal with a large game at the mo, that is the main thing, but trying to keep up as best as I can.
But this game will make me angry, I have some fun and I am scum read.....ok. I have a feeling this game will be bad for my mental health.
You people are no fun. This is a game we play for fun, have some fun.
Like literally someone used my opening post about me talking about be upset about not being a CL as an actual case for me?
Fuck off with that, this is no way you possibly can be serious with that shit.
And TL, I have been voting Dragon for a minute.....there is my scum read. Oops all my bad I can't fake a scum read.....as kinda said before, it is D1 on a large game with wackadoo mechanics, and it is moving faster for my liking. I will focus on the microcosm that happens when I am free, and I will gives reads as I see such, if they are town reads.....is that so bad?
I need a fucking beer.
And before someone comes in and says 'AtE, classic scum move', first off wrong, being strung up for some shit reasons when trying to get into the game will bring out emotions, and actually I don't have a second lol.
Meg, you have experience with me in a game you modded where I was a bit more gentle replacing in, and I was scum. Not saying that I would never be aggro as scum, but this is one example.In post 487, Doctor Drew wrote: I will say, Porkens shares a bit of dna with me, come out swinging when replacing in.
And they have a bit of a shit posting ruffle the feathers posting style sometimes, also in my dna.
I don't love their entrance, but think it is NAI.
And you have seen me in a game playing with you, and maybe wasn't as aggro.....and hey look, I was CL.
You are are judging me from one perspective.
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Oh my god, imaginalitys iso is bad I hate the TL read and the stated confidence. I like the talking with the bats post
Maybe imaginality is just really scummy as town? He was pretty convincing that one time he was scum in a game i was in. But I think he's suspicious here. Would need to see a read other than "TL is faking being townie!helpful" which he mentions in 3 or 4 of 7 posts
I voted Meg because I largely disagreed with almost every conclusion. I was thinking Ranger!Scum Enchant!Town, Drew!Town (obviously). Why is Porkens and Ranger your top townreads (above Kyoko who you state what i thought were better reasons for. Maybe respecting the scumrange but still idk.)
Also, I hate the wordy comment by Meg because it's true-
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well I was scumreading Porkens for low effort posting and the reads Porkens posted had no elaboration at that time, so I wasn't pushing Porkens for gut reading as that would be a bad push
oh and 596 is a high effort post that doesn't give me confidence... apparently pointing out a potential scum signal is role fishing?!
pedit: wow... I feel disheartened...
and yeah I'd want to see imaginality provide a town read with at least one iota of elaborationtime will end-
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Because the implication here is that you are saying its an intentional role signal in which case your response makes about 0 sense. If it isn't I'd like at least some explanation.In post 598, MegAzumarill wrote:
Define fishingIn post 596, imaginality wrote: I keep looking for reasons not to keep voting TemporalLich and they keep disappointing me.
@Gimli I don't use acronyms much but in that case was pointing out the hypocrisy of TemporalLich being LAMIST with their reply to Kawaii's question about what LAMIST means. So it amused me to use that phrase there.
I too am troubled by Empathice having me high in his townreads. In conjunction with telling me TemporalLich is too wolfy to be scum it feels like maybe hoping to sway me away from voting TemporalLich?
I don't see Porkens as scummy. I think I'd rather keep Porkens here a few more days because I feel like they are good at ruffling people's feathers compared to giving scum an easy ride.
I feel like Flea drove things more as town in the other game I was in with faer. Not sure that the difference is AI though but interested in thoughts of others who know Flea's meta betta.
112 and 268 from Meg are bad (both wishywashy fencesitty stuff) and if I wasn't still happy voting TemporalLich I'd probably be voting Meg instead.
Oh and I see Meg's fishing as well... yeah, VOTE: MegAzumarill
(P-edit: random fact of the day: the [post] tag only seems to work with 'post' written in lower case.)Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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Do you want to run the Nightmare?In post 607, Morning Tweet wrote: Oh my god, imaginalitys iso is bad I hate the TL read and the stated confidence. I like the talking with the bats post
Maybe imaginality is just really scummy as town? He was pretty convincing that one time he was scum in a game i was in. But I think he's suspicious here. Would need to see a read other than "TL is faking being townie!helpful" which he mentions in 3 or 4 of 7 posts
I voted Meg because I largely disagreed with almost every conclusion. I was thinking Ranger!Scum Enchant!Town, Drew!Town (obviously). Why is Porkens and Ranger your top townreads (above Kyoko who you state what i thought were better reasons for. Maybe respecting the scumrange but still idk.)
Also, I hate the wordy comment by Meg because it's true'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I feel like I might have missed more than i thoughtIn post 557, TemporalLich wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew
okay Porkens definitely has a town mindset, retracting the scumread on Porkens now
I really like the elaboration of the lead rist... completely discredits my scumread for low effort posting and openwolfing to the point I townread Porkens now
**Scrolls**
No I'm not sure, I dont have a conclusion on Porkens still.
I like his readslist order and I tend to agree on Ranger!scum and with his town pool
I can't really say for sure, he's a sly piggy. But I tend to agree he's not low efforting he's clearly reading the game and analyzing. I feel good about him-
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the read imagine has on TL, not you. I think that it's just a very peculiar read to be as confident on as he wasIn post 608, TemporalLich wrote: well I was scumreading Porkens for low effort posting and the reads Porkens posted had no elaboration at that time, so I wasn't pushing Porkens for gut reading as that would be a bad push
oh and 596 is a high effort post that doesn't give me confidence... apparently pointing out a potential scum signal is role fishing?!
pedit: wow... I feel disheartened... :(
and yeah I'd want to see imaginality provide a town read with at least one iota of elaboration-
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In post 607, Morning Tweet wrote: I voted Meg because I largely disagreed with almost every conclusion. I was thinking Ranger!Scum Enchant!Town, Drew!Town (obviously). Why is Porkens and Ranger your top townreads (above Kyoko who you state what i thought were better reasons for. Maybe respecting the scumrange but still idk.)
I don't see where scum!Porkens really needs to come in the way he did. I'll concede it's mostly tonal but it feels like they cause motion and I feel scum like the game stagnant especially in the state it has been for a while.
Ranger I haven't played with before but I do think their style has been good to reflect their reads. I feel like they are opening themselves to more insight and looking at their changes inbreadlists and the posts in between it doesn't really feel arbitrary sans the enchant shift which I've already referred to.
Dragoneater is probably my top townread atm though and I can go into detail if you'd prefer. I just forgor to put them in my first nightmare vote.
Kyoko sort of sits at nulltown rn for me. I could see myself adding them to nightmare vote if it was deadline rn but I'm reserving that for full townreads atm.
Also, I hate the wordy comment by Meg because it's trueImprefection is the spice of life.-
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Pork is probtown, MT is about as town as town can get.
TL I think maybe scum, Ranger I love for making me the towniest town that has ever towned.....but don't really get why tbh.
I bitch about getting strung up as town, but I get why someone not familiar with me will scum read me, so this continual town read of my by her.....is a bit odd to me
Meg, I can't really ever figure her out, hope she responds to my post above though.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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meg is null leaning town for effort... I think
that's just an impression from barely skimming meg's ISOtime will end-
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Why does effort = town?In post 615, TemporalLich wrote: meg is null leaning town for effort... I think
that's just an impression from barely skimming meg's ISO
Pre Edit: I kinda disagree Meg'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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yeah... effort is why I lean town on you lol
pedit: it takes effort to fake effort so having effort is very slightly towny imo
and having zero effort is anti-towntime will end-
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This is a bad take on Meg, and makes no sense on why you once TR me.In post 618, TemporalLich wrote: yeah... effort is why I lean town on you lol
pedit: it takes effort to fake effort so having effort is very slightly towny imo
me.
and having zero effort is anti-town'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I can't really sort meg with an ISO skim, though 587 also is null leaning town based on the actual post so there's thattime will end-
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I mean that makes three games where you haven't been forceful so I feel that point stands. Either it's not your playstyle or it is your playstyle as town, which implies the lack of it makes you scum here.In post 606, Doctor Drew wrote: I literally hate this game, can't deal with a large game at the mo, that is the main thing, but trying to keep up as best as I can.
But this game will make me angry, I have some fun and I am scum read.....ok. I have a feeling this game will be bad for my mental health.
You people are no fun. This is a game we play for fun, have some fun.
Like literally someone used my opening post about me talking about be upset about not being a CL as an actual case for me?
Fuck off with that, this is no way you possibly can be serious with that shit.
And TL, I have been voting Dragon for a minute.....there is my scum read. Oops all my bad I can't fake a scum read.....as kinda said before, it is D1 on a large game with wackadoo mechanics, and it is moving faster for my liking. I will focus on the microcosm that happens when I am free, and I will gives reads as I see such, if they are town reads.....is that so bad?
I need a fucking beer.
And before someone comes in and says 'AtE, classic scum move', first off wrong, being strung up for some shit reasons when trying to get into the game will bring out emotions, and actually I don't have a second lol.
Meg, you have experience with me in a game you modded where I was a bit more gentle replacing in, and I was scum. Not saying that I would never be aggro as scum, but this is one example.In post 487, Doctor Drew wrote: I will say, Porkens shares a bit of dna with me, come out swinging when replacing in.
And they have a bit of a shit posting ruffle the feathers posting style sometimes, also in my dna.
I don't love their entrance, but think it is NAI.
And you have seen me in a game playing with you, and maybe wasn't as aggro.....and hey look, I was CL.
You are are judging me from one perspective.
Go look up greentexts for what I specifically meant.
Saying you aren't outside of your scumgame isn't a condemnation I just don't think your play is variant enough away from seeing scum!you.
Althoigh thid doesn't feel like citadel conflict!you either but that was a pretty simple game to solve anyway from associatives so maybe it's a bad comparison.
But the impression I get from this post is you think that you have been extra aggro during this game which I don't really see tbhImprefection is the spice of life.-
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I looked it up. You were incredibly townie there, not getting the same vibes here. Like there you were offering legit scumreads and interacting in a meaningful way and here not so much.In post 606, Doctor Drew wrote: Go look up greentexts for what I specifically meant.
But I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Can you point out three players you think are/can be scum here? Or even two? Can you point out some players which you think are townie?-
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Although it also feels like I may just be missing a bit of context because it feels kind of roundabout for addressing the point to me at least.
(Sympathize eith the larges thing. I'm notoriusly bad at keeping up in them but this one has been much shorter than even some minis I've played before at this point d1 which is nice)Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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Okay this is actually a very good point and I think Imaginality could be scum here trying to signal his role (what with the capital N). Nightmare sounds like a role scum would have.In post 587, MegAzumarill wrote: #422 has a really forced use of the word nightmare from imaginality. Feels possibly like a signal which makes my mind jump to traitor as from the OP bad dreams are the scumteam.
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