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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:33 am

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In post 1942, Gimli wrote:
In post 1939, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1932, Gimli wrote:
In post 1931, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1929, Gimli wrote: it can easily be std
This doesn't make any sense in reality and you know that.
huh? why is that?
Do your ass an ISO read and you'll see that StD and Vanderscamp agree like, once. Vanderscamp calls StD's reaction good and then most of their interactions are disagreements, Vander including StD in solve lists for Kira/Followers, and by the end during twilight just openly saying that he thinks StD is a Follower to a lying Kira!Mala. They have zero synergy, yet nor are they keeping distance.
which means they've been avoiding each other almost as much as vanderscamp has been avoiding you

and you're defending std which you probably have no reason to as kira

so you're either a townie or a follower and std is kira?
Do you not know the difference between avoidance/distancing and actively vouching that your Kira is scum? Vander's play makes zero fucking sense as a Follower to StD.
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:33 am

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In post 1948, Black wrote:
In post 1945, HighPrincessErinys wrote: The only actually viable candidate is me. It is either this one or Gimli, even it can see that.
Really? You don't think it could be Meg? No_Mafia?
One of them is Gimli's Follower, the other isn't. The announcement told you this.
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:33 am

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In post 1944, Gimli wrote: HPE isn't behaving like kira at all, lets be honest
Ehhhhhhhh idk man. Now I'm wondering if it's Kira HPE with Vander/Gimli followers...
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:35 am

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In post 1949, Gimli wrote: hpe just said its literally either me or it. don't you find that incredibly strange?
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:35 am

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i'm kind of confused why you think it's me, gimli
In post 1942, Gimli wrote: which means they've been avoiding each other almost as much as vanderscamp has been avoiding you
i feel like this isn't at all what HPE was saying
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:35 am

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hpe is trying to limbat so hard here black, that's my impression anyway.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:35 am

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Gimli is very blatantly and openly trying to do anything he can to confuse town and get them off him, how can you not see this?
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:37 am

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In post 1955, Gimli wrote: hpe is trying to limbat so hard here black, that's my impression anyway.
In post 1956, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Gimli is very blatantly and openly trying to do anything he can to confuse town and get them off him, how can you not see this?
Yeah idk what to think anymore
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:37 am

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In post 1939, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1932, Gimli wrote:
In post 1931, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1929, Gimli wrote: it can easily be std
This doesn't make any sense in reality and you know that.
huh? why is that?
Do your ass an ISO read and you'll see that StD and Vanderscamp agree like, once. Vanderscamp calls StD's reaction good and then most of their interactions are disagreements, Vander including StD in solve lists for Kira/Followers, and by the end during twilight just openly saying that he thinks StD is a Follower to a lying Kira!Mala. They have zero synergy, yet nor are they keeping distance.
Yeah Vander has 0 consistency with StD, flipping being town to being scum, you right in a follower engaging the most with Kira/actively distancing from Kira, flipping between engagement/distance makes 0 sense, especially when flipping reads
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:38 am

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I think I struck a nerve when I brought up std and hpe's reaction was very telling, I don't think it reacts like that to anyone else being brought up here unless it feels the need to defend that slot. that's why I think hpe telegraphed std as kira, and I really do think std has been just scummy the entire game but I think that of him every game...

if you all prefer hpe that's fine but I don't think so atm.
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:40 am

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In post 1959, Gimli wrote: I think I struck a nerve when I brought up std and hpe's reaction was very telling, I don't think it reacts like that to anyone else being brought up here unless it feels the need to defend that slot. that's why I think hpe telegraphed std as kira, and I really do think std has been just scummy the entire game but I think that of him every game...

if you all prefer hpe that's fine but I don't think so atm.
Struck a nerve? Need to defend that slot? No you're just being incredibly obvious in what you're trying to do, and that's redirecting pressure on you to literally anyone else.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:42 am

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i kinda think hpe would have tried to strike down any slot you suggested, you just happened to pick me

either you're kira and hpe is pure and it is correct and wants to lim you

or hpe is kira and is trying hard to lim you specifically because that's its plan for looking townie

im having trouble seeing other possibilities
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:44 am

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Maybe Gimli is HPE's follower too? Light skim and there are already some weird interactions in Gimli's ISO
In post 617, Gimli wrote:
In post 605, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 432, Gimli wrote: if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:

1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right

im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:45 am

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In post 1961, Save The Dragons wrote: i kinda think hpe would have tried to strike down any slot you suggested, you just happened to pick me

either you're kira and hpe is pure and it is correct and wants to lim you

or hpe is kira and is trying hard to lim you specifically because that's its plan for looking townie

im having trouble seeing other possibilities
we can both be town, one of us can be a follower and the other town. show me your work on how you can have this POE of two people as possible kira. can't be kokichi, can't be meg, can't be not_mafia?
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:46 am

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In post 1880, Black wrote:
In post 1876, Save The Dragons wrote: it could also be an attempt at distancing, the follower not trying to alert HPE that they're a follower, but trying to separate themselves and make it look like, in the event they got caught, that HPE wasn't kira.
This is how I feel. If we think Vander was signaling to his Kira all game then Kira is Gimli. If we think Vander tried to avoid his Kira all game then it's HPE
The whole case of HPE being Kira predicates on the assumption that Vander distances himself away from Kira

pedit: I'm with STD, it's even a town mindset to see why std as Kira when Vander is the follower doesn't make sense

I see HPE pursuing a 1 v 1 as Kira/town

If HPE is a follower then it does have an incentive to go against you to shield Kira but Gimli also has an incentive to pin the blame on someone else as Kira if he's Kira
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:47 am

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In post 1962, Black wrote: Maybe Gimli is HPE's follower too? Light skim and there are already some weird interactions in Gimli's ISO
In post 617, Gimli wrote:
In post 605, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 432, Gimli wrote: if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:

1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right

im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:48 am

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In post 1962, Black wrote:
Before this post Gimli had HPE in his townlock. Nothing indicated he had a follower or a scumread on HPE at all, and then this post happened
my idea on HPE there was specifically being kawaii's follower, cause of that post where it was defending him but it wasn't defending him that looked like crazy word salad talk, and I thought she gained a lot of equity specifically as kawaii's follower there.

I think if you wanna look at my d1 through lens of hpe being my kira you can certainly make the case for it. I do suggest you understand why I'm saying her behaviour now makes more sense as follower than as kira, because the reality is that I'm town and I'm trying to convey pure towny thoughts to you.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:49 am

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In post 1965, HighPrincessErinys wrote: YOU ARE OVERTHINKING THIS SO BADLY
That's kinda my thing
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 am

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In post 1966, Gimli wrote:
In post 1962, Black wrote:
Before this post Gimli had HPE in his townlock. Nothing indicated he had a follower or a scumread on HPE at all, and then this post happened
my idea on HPE there was specifically being kawaii's follower, cause of that post where it was defending him but it wasn't defending him that looked like crazy word salad talk, and I thought she gained a lot of equity specifically as kawaii's follower there.

I think if you wanna look at my d1 through lens of hpe being my kira you can certainly make the case for it. I do suggest you understand why I'm saying her behaviour now makes more sense as follower than as kira, because the reality is that I'm town and I'm trying to convey pure towny thoughts to you.
"Pure towny thoughts" is an interesting smokescreen for the stunt you're trying to pull. It is actively driving this one insane how no one sees how so so blatant this play is.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:50 am

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In post 1963, Gimli wrote:can't be kokichi, can't be meg, can't be not_mafia?
are you seeing those possibilities?

i can take a closer look but i don't see not_mafia due to lorne's play
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:52 am

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In post 1963, Gimli wrote:
In post 1961, Save The Dragons wrote: i kinda think hpe would have tried to strike down any slot you suggested, you just happened to pick me

either you're kira and hpe is pure and it is correct and wants to lim you

or hpe is kira and is trying hard to lim you specifically because that's its plan for looking townie

im having trouble seeing other possibilities
we can both be town, one of us can be a follower and the other town. show me your work on how you can have this POE of two people as possible kira. can't be kokichi, can't be meg, can't be not_mafia?
It's possible that kokichi/meg/not_mafia is Kira, but how likely? Give me a Kira case on all 3 of them
I want you to give the 3 Kira cases on what indicates them to be Kira and I want HPE to give a P0E case as to why Kira is only you/HPE
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:58 am

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std has done nothing all game

not one game advancing thought

agrees with whatever is popular at any given time
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:59 am

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that is not true
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:00 am

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i defended mala cuz i thought she was town, i didn't jump on the popular belief that we should kill her
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:01 am

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i chose kawaii or you based on what i thought at the time, i wasn't always in the majority

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