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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:22 am

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In post 1323, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 860, Pink Ball wrote: Ah whatever I already said my flavor is funny so I got your expectations up and it won't be funny now.

I'm this kid:


My action is called endless dream
That's what I claimed, yes.

Wave got the name right so he's telling the truth.
Yeah, the name I got matched what you said. I was expecting it to be a fake claim, but it looks like you true claimed your flavor.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:25 am

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In post 1324, Wavelength wrote: Stephen claimed the ability to leave a Start of Day post.

That is clearly from him
Oh I didn't remember that part of his claim, it didn't look like it was written by him so I thought it was someone else who didn't claim having that kind of power.
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:26 am

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In post 1316, Pink Ball wrote: Because my action failed; I can't bring someone back if the dream dimension isn't full.

I targeted SAS and released Kokichi.
You are claiming to have targetted SAS, and it failed?

There are like 3 worlds we are living in:

-Pink Ball is lying to stay alive
-Stephen is scum and their partner rolestopped them because PB made it clear that they were targeting stephen.
-The scum team rolestopped a town stephen to frame him as scum, because PB made their target clear.
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:27 am

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In post 1326, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1324, Wavelength wrote: Stephen claimed the ability to leave a Start of Day post.

That is clearly from him
Oh I didn't remember that part of his claim, it didn't look like it was written by him so I thought it was someone else who didn't claim having that kind of power.
It matches his reads. He was very clear that he thinks you are a serial killer, and he made LLD blasphemous
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:29 am

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Yes yes I agree that that's clearly SAS's
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:29 am

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Kuribo has to be the scum kill, since what PB does does not flip.

And that seems like a weird kill if scum have a redirector, right? They can just bypass the doc

Maybe the redirector was x-shot?
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:31 am

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In post 1327, Wavelength wrote: -Pink Ball is lying to stay alive
I had a more incendiary reaction when I read this but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: what are you implying with this?
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 am

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In post 1331, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1327, Wavelength wrote: -Pink Ball is lying to stay alive
I had a more incendiary reaction when I read this but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: what are you implying with this?
That there is a possibility that you are just a janitor/serial killer, and you needed to claim your action action failed since you could not actually bring kokichi back to the game.
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:37 am

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Okay, running through the numbers like stephen did, but with there being 6 alive instead of 5

If we are at 3:2:1, and we kill Pink Ball, and then there is a night kill, that would make tomorrow 2:2

We lose...

So yeah. We should have killed pink ball yesterday
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:38 am

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...and instead of actually "killing" someone I decided to do nothing last night instead of going for this:
assuming we wake up with 5 players alive[2 nightkills] - we can no longer eliminate pink ball - 2 mafia 1 SK 2 town results in a town loss if the SK gets eliminated
I didn't care about the SK reads on me 'cause they made sense in a way that, from everyone's perspective, it could be part of the setup and there wasn't enough information to confirm or deny my role, but now you're still pushing for the idea that I'm a SK and playing against my wincon?

Come on dude.
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:40 am

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I guess there is the possibility that one of PB's targets were scum since they did not flip, but it seems scary to bet the game on that. So I am gonna work from the assumption that we are 3:2:1 right now.

I think that flea is the person that I am most prepared to treat as 100% town.
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 1334, Pink Ball wrote: ...and instead of actually "killing" someone I decided to do nothing last night instead of going for this:
assuming we wake up with 5 players alive[2 nightkills] - we can no longer eliminate pink ball - 2 mafia 1 SK 2 town results in a town loss if the SK gets eliminated
I didn't care about the SK reads on me 'cause they made sense in a way that, from everyone's perspective, it could be part of the setup and there wasn't enough information to confirm or deny my role, but now you're still pushing for the idea that I'm a SK and playing against my wincon?

Come on dude.
I just ran the numbers, and we are still unable to kill you at 6.

So no, I don't think that no killing would be anti-wincon for you to have done
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:43 am

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In post 1336, Wavelength wrote:
In post 1334, Pink Ball wrote: ...and instead of actually "killing" someone I decided to do nothing last night instead of going for this:
assuming we wake up with 5 players alive[2 nightkills] - we can no longer eliminate pink ball - 2 mafia 1 SK 2 town results in a town loss if the SK gets eliminated
I didn't care about the SK reads on me 'cause they made sense in a way that, from everyone's perspective, it could be part of the setup and there wasn't enough information to confirm or deny my role, but now you're still pushing for the idea that I'm a SK and playing against my wincon?

Come on dude.
I just ran the numbers, and we are still unable to kill you at 6.

So no, I don't think that no killing would be anti-wincon for you to have done
You are, once again, underestimating me and overestimating me at the same time.
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:46 am

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In post 1335, Wavelength wrote: I guess there is the possibility that one of PB's targets were scum since they did not flip, but it seems scary to bet the game on that. So I am gonna work from the assumption that we are 3:2:1 right now.

I think that flea is the person that I am most prepared to treat as 100% town.
That just leaves 1 more town in [Ali, Stephen, LLD]

I really want to believe its Ali, but Stephen+LLD going at one another so much leading into the end game makes me question if they can be teamed :sob:
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:48 am

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In post 1338, Wavelength wrote:
In post 1335, Wavelength wrote: I guess there is the possibility that one of PB's targets were scum since they did not flip, but it seems scary to bet the game on that. So I am gonna work from the assumption that we are 3:2:1 right now.

I think that flea is the person that I am most prepared to treat as 100% town.
That just leaves 1 more town in [Ali, Stephen, LLD]

I really want to believe its Ali, but Stephen+LLD going at one another so much leading into the end game makes me question if they can be teamed :sob:
Maybe the game actually makes more sense if one of Kokichi / Penguin was scum?

Because Ali being town, and then it being *one of* Stephen/LLD makes a lot more sense to me with how I have been reading this game.
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:50 am

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How was the kill stopped day 1? How was Scum's kill stopped day 1, is the question we need to ask.

They didn't shoot Ircher. No fucking way.

so either they SHOT Kokichi and the PB thing protected him/PB is a SK and they both shot Kokichi, or PB's thing roleblocks when it happens.
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:51 am

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@PB, you said that Kokichi claimed they would die if they claimed their flavor to you.

What happens if someone dies while in your dream? Can someone die while in your dream?

Either way, I think I want Kokichi to flavor claim so we can just see what happens
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:52 am

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In post 1340, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: How was the kill stopped day 1? How was Scum's kill stopped day 1, is the question we need to ask.

They didn't shoot Ircher. No fucking way.

so either they SHOT Kokichi and the PB thing protected him/PB is a SK and they both shot Kokichi, or PB's thing roleblocks when it happens.
I agree they never shot Ircher, and Kuribo said his ability did not save it.

So I think that it really has to be that the scum and PB doubled up on kokichi
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:52 am

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In post 1341, Wavelength wrote: @PB, you said that Kokichi claimed they would die if they claimed their flavor to you.

What happens if someone dies while in your dream? Can someone die while in your dream?

Either way, I think I want Kokichi to flavor claim so we can just see what happens
You're asking something that is way out of my knowledge. Kokichi claimed he would die, I don't know what happens, but I believe that Kokichi is town and that he was the scum NK on N1 and him dying would do no good
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:53 am

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In post 1343, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1341, Wavelength wrote: @PB, you said that Kokichi claimed they would die if they claimed their flavor to you.

What happens if someone dies while in your dream? Can someone die while in your dream?

Either way, I think I want Kokichi to flavor claim so we can just see what happens
You're asking something that is way out of my knowledge. Kokichi claimed he would die, I don't know what happens, but I believe that Kokichi is town and that he was the scum NK on N1 and him dying would do no good
If Kokichi spontaneously flipped in the middle of this day phase, it would prove that you are talking to Kokichi.
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:54 am

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I know they're out of the game until they stop dreaming, so if I had to guess, if someone died while dreaming, they would flip in thread because they technically stopped dreaming
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:54 am

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And that kokichi is not actually just dead already
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:55 am

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In post 1345, Pink Ball wrote: I know they're out of the game until they stop dreaming, so if I had to guess, if someone died while dreaming, they would flip in thread because they technically stopped dreaming
Bet.

Make it happen.
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:58 am

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Pb what happens if you target an ascetic
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:58 am

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In post 1344, Wavelength wrote:
In post 1343, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1341, Wavelength wrote: @PB, you said that Kokichi claimed they would die if they claimed their flavor to you.

What happens if someone dies while in your dream? Can someone die while in your dream?

Either way, I think I want Kokichi to flavor claim so we can just see what happens
You're asking something that is way out of my knowledge. Kokichi claimed he would die, I don't know what happens, but I believe that Kokichi is town and that he was the scum NK on N1 and him dying would do no good
If Kokichi spontaneously flipped in the middle of this day phase, it would prove that you are talking to Kokichi.
I'll ask him but I can't force him. I'm weirded out about this being relevant tho, why would I not want to claim Kokichi's flavor if I was lying about communitating with him

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