Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER

[Detective Penguin]

chaos

[Gimli]

I see. she said she's giving reads and I find her emotions genuine although I did townread ranger's emotions in 2019 game despite her being mafia. somehow this looks different and idt ranger strikes me as a resigned wolf.

no, she's not resigned. That's the point.

this is the precise emotional result she's aiming to engender in you. You can tell it's planned because of the dissonance between Ranger's self vote and supposed give up mixed with Ranger's constant rebuttal of Ceph and I based on meta plural reasons, indictating she doesn't actually want or think she will die today. Infact, she's giving me vibes feeling confident she will live.

So let's take her at her word, yes? She wants to die, she's giving her reads, they'll be here tomorrow if she's dead and town.

But why would we let someone who votes themselves and wants to die, live?

if you're so sure of it, okay

[Gimli]

Ethel, are you an actual new player or an alt?

I am a... wait, what's the lore of this again? Oh right - I am of course an ambitious young magician from the beautiful city of Enhasa who is honored by this opportunity to serve her majesty the Queen. Although I have been educated in the matter of intrigues and schemes, this is my first time experiencing a scenario such as the current one firsthand. I am still trying to decipher the code most of you seem to use, but not to worry, I'll have it figured out soon enough. Admittedly, I am finding it hard to follow some of the reasonings that have been made about the indentity of any Earthbound Ones, so I will observe and learn before making any such accusations myself.

so this is your first mafia game?

[Korina]

I dislike Penguin's posting so far, and dislike Ranger.

I think Gimli and LLD are townie though.

That's all I got for now, can post more substantial thought later.

[Korina]

Ok some thoughts as I catchup and read:

- Don't like Ranger claiming n1.
- Don't like Ceph's posting on p2.
- Like LLD posting.
- Dislike Ranger self-vote which required me to read someone else's post to find out that Ranger self-voted bc I'm not fully reading the thread.
- Neutral on FF on p3.
- Sail scumclaim is eh.
- Gimli town.
- Umlaut posting ok, I guess. I didn't read it very detailed, but surface skim it seems ok.

I'm still busy lol but my friends got off to eat dinner so here I am now for a moment.

[Korina]

VOTE: Ranger

E-2, I still think on my surface read that Ranger is scummy, and I'm ok with this.

[Detective Penguin]

lol at umlaut read - surface skimming seven posts? Are you for real?

[Korina]

Yes because I'm in the middle of a move.

[Korina]

I really don't have a lot of time atm to dedicate to sitting down and reading, and quite frankly, immediately after getting home and being V/LA on the day the game started - I'd rather post *something* than nothing.

[Gimli]

me watching ranger scumreads like

[Gimli]

reminder to never self vote in a game with y'all...

[Cephrir]

reminder to never self vote in a game with y'all...

...good?

[Sail]

I don’t understand the LLD/Ranger situation at all. Originally I wasn’t taking Ranger’s posts as serious, but now that I realize they are serious, I’m not sure what to think.

[Sail]

redFF had a very similar reaction to me so he can be lean town for now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

reminder to never self vote in a game with y'all...

...good?

it's fine Gimli's #3.

[Detective Penguin]

Are we going to make tracking scumtells and numbering them a thing?

I. am. down.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Watch this game be Mtn Dew Mafia pt. 2

fucking watch

[Detective Penguin]

link if you don't want to explain?

[Detective Penguin]

reminder to never self vote in a game with y'all...

forgot to say that your avatar is one of my favorite albums of all time. which needed to be said. because.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

link if you don't want to explain?

a mafia game where i was innocent child and used that status to allow the game to develop around me and make final calls, I only placed 3 votes that day, all 3 were on scum.

[Detective Penguin]

ah - well you aren't confirmed town so that's the first gap.

[Ranger]

some other minor things: LLD is a tentative townread cause she is deathtunneling a slot since very early and I don't see wolves doing that enough. sail's scumclaiming post was really awkward but I don't think is scummy. penguin seems intense this game which is good.

I agree with these takes, with caveats to them.

VOTE: Gimli

Thinking about it, I feel this is +town for Sail. Hopping off the Ranger wagon onto Gimli I don't think is scum there.

Ethel same, me every game

Thinking about it, I don't think furtiveglance is scum with Ethel, but looking at 82/83, I don't think both are town; I think one of these two is scum.

Have a temporary list.
{LLD, Gimli} (LLD down + Gimli up)
{Penguin*} (need to explain this)
{Nulls}{nonposters}{temporarily, the 3 I need to sort}
{redFF}

Time for a better one.

{Gimli}
{Lady Lambdadelta}
{Save The Dragons, Sail}
{Detective Penguin}
{Korina, (Radical Rat), Umlaut, Cephrir}
{furtiveglance | Ethel}
{redFF}

To explain the Penguin read, if it were PenguinPower on his main I'd be inclined to think his posts were +scum--counterintuitively, because they look +town. However, Detective Penguin isn't on the PenguinPower account. If the meta isn't 1:1, then Detective Penuin's posts looking +town could be exactly what they look like; +town. So, tentatively, trusting Detective Penguin's meta isn't identical to PenguinPower, +town posts get a townread.

[Detective Penguin]

To explain the Penguin read, if it were PenguinPower on his main I'd be inclined to think his posts were +scum--counterintuitively, because they look +town. However, Detective Penguin isn't on the PenguinPower account. If the meta isn't 1:1, then Detective Penuin's posts looking +town could be exactly what they look like; +town. So, tentatively, trusting Detective Penguin's meta isn't identical to PenguinPower, +town posts get a townread.

I would like for you to expand on why my posts are +scum if I were on my main. I don't really think my posts are any different than they would have been as either town or scum on any account except for volume.

[Gimli]

reminder to never self vote in a game with y'all...

forgot to say that your avatar is one of my favorite albums of all time. which needed to be said. because.

been one of my favorites since my teenage years as well which was a long time ago

I'm listening to it now since you mentioned it

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ah - well you aren't confirmed town so that's the first gap.

yes it was mostly a joke about me hitting 3 different people i suspect are scum