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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:02 am

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In post 2114, Menalque wrote:
In post 2039, Klick wrote: If anyone wants to ask me things in particular I'm happy to dialogue about it and that might help?
hi! I see that kawaii gradually moved up in your reads when I went through your ISO -- why did this happen?

what do you see as townie about kokichi? I don't disagree but I'd like a second opinion and currently a decent number of people are trying to kill them

what's your opinion on ausuka atp?

I'm kind of surprised to see myself in the people you're confident are town -- I saw that you said you're generally feeling your reads more than you used to, and admittedly I have been trash as scum recently, but I'm still a lil surprised to see myself up there. is there something in particular you're TRing me for or just a vibe or what's going on there?
Noting this post for later because I'm not in a place where I can respond satisfactorily to everything here but I want to answer these

Just answered on Ausuka. For slightly more context, I believe her solving and think it looks genuine. She has an authentic take on the gamestate that town would have

You're very similar to Ausuka there, except I trust my ability to read you more. I keep reading your posts and consistently go 'yeah, I believe you believe that'.

I'd add more context but I have to go now lmao
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:03 am

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In very brief, I think elsa is likely scum but not so sure about Kokichi. They're both reads I want to refresh on though.
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:10 am

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Thanks Klick
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:10 am

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In post 2287, Menalque wrote: I have ausuka as hard town now, incidentally
she was hard town since yesterday
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:59 am

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In post 2318, Enchant wrote:
In post 2317, geraintm wrote: Klick - Town Compulsive Visitor.
Comus - VT
KawaiiKame - hider
ausuka - loud visionary
Elsa Jay -
Cop
Jailkeeper??? and maybe clear on Gimli ???
enchant claims vt (after also claiming bodyguard)
gimli claims vt
Elsa - was visited by unknown player - both Asuku and Kawaii said they visited on Night 1

(this isn't me trying to force people to claim btw, it is just somewhere for me to stick all them down because i forget or miss them)
I feel offended.

I also claimed Vigilante and Cop.
You can understand why I don't stick every single one of yout claims in
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:59 am

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In post 2320, Comus wrote:
In post 2317, geraintm wrote: Klick - Town Compulsive Visitor.
Comus - VT
KawaiiKame - hider
ausuka - loud visionary
Elsa Jay -
Cop
Jailkeeper??? and maybe clear on Gimli ???
enchant claims vt (after also claiming bodyguard)
gimli claims vt
Elsa - was visited by unknown player - both Asuku and Kawaii said they visited on Night 1

(this isn't me trying to force people to claim btw, it is just somewhere for me to stick all them down because i forget or miss them)
Enchant claimed they vig killed Magical Girl at immediate start of Day 2, idk might be important later. Doesn't have to be on list I guess but following that I had enchant as goon in my solve, enchant later claimed vt.
Yeah, I ignored that claim. Even I don't believe everything
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:31 am

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In post 2326, Klick wrote: In very brief, I think elsa is likely scum but not so sure about Kokichi. They're both reads I want to refresh on though.
klick pls carry me im tired of mafia
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:14 am

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In post 2331, Gimli wrote:
In post 2326, Klick wrote: In very brief, I think elsa is likely scum but not so sure about Kokichi. They're both reads I want to refresh on though.
klick pls carry me im tired of mafia
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:21 am

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Vote Count 2.5
Comus (3): Ausuka, Kokichi Oma, Elsa Jay
Kokichi Oma (3): KawaiiKame, Menalque, Comus
Elsa Jay (2): Skygazer, Gimli
Menalque (1): geraintm

Not Voting (2): Enchant, Klick

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate.

Deadline is March 26 at 10:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2023-03-27 01:00:00).

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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:48 am

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Time to solve
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:49 am

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In post 2332, Enchant wrote:
In post 2331, Gimli wrote:
In post 2326, Klick wrote: In very brief, I think elsa is likely scum but not so sure about Kokichi. They're both reads I want to refresh on though.
klick pls carry me im tired of mafia
klick pls carry me im tired of mafia
klick pls carry me im tired of being mafia
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:49 am

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In post 2334, KawaiiKame wrote: Time to solve
I believe in our hero Kawaii
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:50 am

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In post 2334, KawaiiKame wrote: Time to solve
Tell me when you solve
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:50 am

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kawaii pls carry me im tired of mafia
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:14 am

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Ausuka plz carry me while Kawaii carries you I'm tired of mafia
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:00 pm

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ive been drinking
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:02 pm

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yeah idk about this game
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:58 pm

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I think it's worth noting that Gimli has 370 well-thought-through posts in this game
while
he was playing his heart out in a solo scum game throughout the entirety of this game.

I don't think Gimli is scum at all really. I think this game has been an outlet for legit town solving while he was expending a lot of effort winning a scum game in Hollow Knight.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:00 pm

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In post 2334, KawaiiKame wrote: Time to solve
How can you scumread a post like this with no follow-through :P
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:32 pm

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In post 1671, Comus wrote: Ausuka, Kokichi Oma, Magical Girl, Menalque...

Who're the rabbits? Who're the wolves? Who hunts by moonlight and who are being set up as fools? The world is turning and so the sun dies another death, the silver eye of void staring down 'pon all. Who will fall? Will a final howl be howled? Death stalks, cowled. We must skitter, slither, slide, go deep into our holes and hide.
In post 1679, Comus wrote: Voting in Ausuka, Magical Girl, Kokichi Oma and Menalque tomorrow will expose two wolves.
I think this is more evidence in favor of Comus!town
I think the scumteam were legitimately so unconcerned by Comus's influence on the game that they killed Magical Girl despite Comus repeatedly putting her in his list of people to kill today
I think Magical Girl being killed directly indicates Comus's reads not being on scum's mind at all, not Comus intentionally aiming for Magical Girl
ESPECIALLY since the kill was intended to look like Elsa was protected by Magical Girl as a Bodyguard
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:12 pm

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If I trust my current reads quite a bit this is where I end up

KawaiiKame

geraintm

Menalque

Gimli

Elsa Jay

Comus

Skygazer

Enchant

Kokichi Oma

Ausuka
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:14 pm

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@klick

I never try send guess scum's motivations for their kills, at the end of the game when the scum pages are opened up it is always for some odd reason
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:17 pm

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Which looks really interesting up against this...
In post 1746, implosion wrote:

Vote Count 1.0.6

Save The Dragons
(7):
Gimli, Ausuka,
Klick,
KawaiiKame, Comus, Menalque,
Magical Girl

Kokichi Oma (2) Elsa Jay,
geraintm

KawaiiKame
(1):
Save the Dragons

Klick
(1): Enchant


Not Voting (3) nepenthe, Kokichi Oma

With 13 players it takes 7 to eliminate.


The thing is with the set of potential scum that remains I can entirely buy that STD was an all-town wagon.
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:19 pm

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In post 2346, geraintm wrote: @klick

I never try send guess scum's motivations for their kills, at the end of the game when the scum pages are opened up it is always for some odd reason
I agree with that in principle
I do think there are certain things that can be assumed based on reading personalities and behaviour though

In particular, it is much easier to identify what someone would
not
do as opposed to what someone
would
do

For example, I think Comus as scum would
not
choose to kill Magical Girl when considering the reads he had posted in the thread
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:20 pm

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Scum and scumteams choose to do weird things all the time but there are plenty of things they very seldom do

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