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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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which is prob what Bingle wants to check so at some point, maybe tomorrow when I'm on a plane again, I'll try to find a "late game guilty" sample"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Pretty much, although I’m more interested in whether you shift into shut up and lim or if you continue being analytical in face of a guilty.
Your reaction to this is really off, imo. You are a very careful player as town, examining all sides of the situation, but today you’ve been getting into semantic details that are at best a distraction, getting aggressive with Ali for doing exactly what Ali would do regardless of alignment when you previously got aggressive at ircher for not doing what Ali is doing, and in general being super aggressive about slamming this lim through.
All on a day phase that would be the literal optimal day phase for a fake guilty via failed doc. If anything, I’d expect town you to be more interested in unpacking what aliscum would mean than trying to push through an elimination you clearly expected to go through without any assistance."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Bingle Survivor
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Board is entirely useless. Without board we still have enough roles to confirm multiple town on council and thus trustworthy pt reporting. At this point, the pt is pretty much useless anyway, except as a way to confuse people outside of the pt and to give GL ample opportunity to find things that aren’t actually scum slips. Going forward, we should let board disappear and focus on having actual elections between the useful roles. Of course, we hopefully overfund tonight and that means no prs tomorrow, but for the next day there is literally no use of board that is pro town.In post 4213, Save The Dragons wrote: im really exhausted from being so wrong.
declare: board of electionsi guess? useless role but it keeps someone on the council which might be good? i don't know? i don't know?
i see a lot of arguing and i can't really sus it out.
like maybe lld is right and it's furtive and i'm just an idiot. i think lld is town now and maybe i should listen to her. i think gl is town. i thought bingle was town but now i'm not sure. i don't really know about other people. i wish we had more than one flip correct.
i dunno sorry for the lame defeatist post. let me look at the meowth wagon again?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Bingle Survivor
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If anyone hasn’t declared I’d like competition on the cm seat, btw. Uno was cm yesterday and I’m not sure yet how I feel about uno cm redux."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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Bingle I think what you're missing is that I've been getting progressively more and more frustrated with the combo of this PL either not agreeing with me on things or being notably dead/absent
like the main reason I've been more forward today is because it feels like if I don't this game is going to be the same as D2 and D3 and I am actually tired of compromising, it has not worked
also I would dispute that I'm not still being analytical, I've been engaging with sheep and furtive and even thought I caught you on a slip briefly
also also if you're referring to my points about Alisae when you say "semantics", it's absolutely not a "distraction", it's an argument about how Alisae is playing for public opinion rather than playing to speak e's truth. If you're referring to something else then I'd like to know what you mean"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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GuiltyLion he/himSurvivorhe/him
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And what is the point of this comment? I could understand it as good natured ribbing if you think I'm town and are just making a joke at me, but if you think I'm scum it feels like shading me over something that's non-indicative at all, if not straight up town-indicative?In post 4227, Bingle wrote:At this point, the pt is pretty much useless anyway, except as a way to confuse people outside of the pt and to give GL ample opportunity to find things that aren’t actually scum slips."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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also just saying it's a "distraction" is kind of a joke itself, like what am I distracting from? What are you bringing to the table that were all supposed to be listening and paying attention to instead?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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anyways I gotta do wedding pt 2 now so Ima give the thread space and be off for the rest of the day probably
and clearly me doing volume posting isn't getting results I want either so I'm gonna put up after I shut up and reread the game and try to present some Grand Theories of what happened D1 and D2 that we haven't revisited in light of all the townflips
enjoy your weekend errbody"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Sure. Your point is that Alisae is playing to survive here, which is fundamentally true. The problem with that as an argument is that 'playing to survive' isn't an alignment indicative argument when someone is mechanically implied to be scum. Proving that Ali wants to live is... Not really a thing? It's a distraction from what is actually the way we evaluate this claim, which is to figure out how likely the hoops you went over actually are. Fundamentally, they mean that my operating theory of the scum power this game is flawed, which would imply that town has been unlucky, mechanically, but also IF scum has a roleblocker I could definitely see them using it here. The questions I have to ask is "Would scum have a roleblocker?" and "What does Ali scum/town actually mean for the gamestate?"In post 4229, GuiltyLion wrote: also also if you're referring to my points about Alisae when you say "semantics", it's absolutely not a "distraction", it's an argument about how Alisae is playing for public opinion rather than playing to speak e's truth. If you're referring to something else then I'd like to know what you mean
Even from a position where you believe that the failed doc is a 100% case, the thing you should be arguing there is that there was a failed doc. Trying to get Ali limmed on the back of "Ali is trying to live" is not a good look at all. I'm not sure if that's an ineffective argument tell or an overblown performance which is the whole point behind asking for the meta.
The scumslip thing was absolutely a joke, and not at all to do with the game itself. I do think the attempt at finding a scumslip from me is 100% the towniest thing you've done today. The point of the comment was that regardless of who is in the PT, we should be making our decisions in the main thread at this point."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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Bingle do you believe that I have a greater than random chance to be town because I didn’t perform the N2 kill? If so, can you convince other people?
I’m deciding between running for sheriff or cmTo be clear: quack-
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Yes and Do I have to right now? It seems to me that protecting you is pretty low on the list of things I need to do.In post 4234, SleepyKrew wrote: Bingle do you believe that I have a greater than random chance to be town because I didn’t perform the N2 kill? If so, can you convince other people?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Why would the most sus scum player do the kill? Are you really arguing that?-
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declare cmIn post 4234, SleepyKrew wrote: Bingle do you believe that I have a greater than random chance to be town because I didn’t perform the N2 kill? If so, can you convince other people?
I’m deciding between running for sheriff or cm
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Not something you have to do immediately, but both positions I’m considering running for would be a contested election. Hoping you can help me winIn post 4235, Bingle wrote:
Yes and Do I have to right now? It seems to me that protecting you is pretty low on the list of things I need to do.In post 4234, SleepyKrew wrote: Bingle do you believe that I have a greater than random chance to be town because I didn’t perform the N2 kill? If so, can you convince other people?To be clear: quack-
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pay attention to the thread smhIn post 4236, furtiveglance wrote: Why would the most sus scum player do the kill? Are you really arguing that?To be clear: quack-
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What’s this? First Bingle steals my keynote day 4 policy for his own campaign and now he bankrolls a challenge against me from a former sheriff caught sleeping on the job?
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Can we all vote for a swift election phase?-
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just get votes in and say fast election-
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What's the argument then? That you would do the kill and the cop check if you were scum? I think you wouldn't.In post 4239, SleepyKrew wrote:
pay attention to the thread smhIn post 4236, furtiveglance wrote: Why would the most sus scum player do the kill? Are you really arguing that?-
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The argument is that there are a lot of town power roles that straight up aren't going to be used on a claimed cop, like JK or roleblocker, and the slot is the least harmful to the scumteam if it goes down to a power role like watcher or rolestopper. The counterargument is "What about tracker?" But I don't think tracker is what scum were interested in playing around on night 2, given that I wasn't able to delay my funding claim to closer to deadline because of RL and 'really powerful role' being tracker would be hilarious given the tracker costs less than the JOAT to activate. Additionally, even in the case of Tracker, Skrewscum can just sit back and wait to see if LLD is going to announce a tracker guilty and at least try to duck the elim with "I was copping pooky." where no other person in the thread could possibly have been visiting anyone that night. Which, notably is not what Skrew did. And let's be clear: scumSkrew wouldn't need to do the cop check. Because scumSkrew would have this thing called access to the scum PT.In post 4244, furtiveglance wrote: What's the argument then? That you would do the kill and the cop check if you were scum? I think you wouldn't.
It's not a slam dunk towncase because there are reasons not-skrew would make the kill (being less aware of mechanical optimization choices than I expect being the big one) but it's 100% why LLD made the right choice of target with Skrew, even if potentially not the right choice of power.
Didn't I already say all of this?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
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towncasing myself a little more: I could've just claimed no result instead of clearing Andante if I was scum. I wasn't fully funded.
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Wouldn't no result have forced us to kill you? Like, mechabically speaking.In post 4246, SleepyKrew wrote: towncasing myself a little more: I could've just claimed no result instead of clearing Andante if I was scum. I wasn't fully funded.
this will be the last of me towncasing myselfYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This is why I have only full funded fyi.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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