Micro 1075: The Coalition of Imaginary Creatures (Game over)

[northsidegal]

Also yes fun intro, but either you're

way

quicker at finding images than me, or I assume this opening was planned out considerably ahead of gamestart

well that would mean that i was lying about the psychic coincidence of checking mafiascum right as the game started, no?

is that what you think?

[Deltabreedy]

I'm not

a fan of that

(The aggressive coalition building)

, to be honest.

My bad.

[Bingle]

Some dead person's razorblades suggest that you were just the last person to confirm and not actually psychic, liesidegal.

[Bingle]

I'm not

a fan of that

(The aggressive coalition building)

, to be honest.

My bad.

HEAL: Deltabreedy

[Deltabreedy]

I can't read Northside's #25. I'm finding this bit about psychic whatevers a bit odd.

[Bingle]

Delta, are you actually new or an alt? Doesn't actually influence my read at this point, just a point of curiosity.

[Deltabreedy]

I've been playing Mafia for around 10 years, I started in forum mafia, with a brief stint in a few forums elsewhere then I started hosting Mafia sessions IRL, I played EpicMafia and I host/mod a few for some friends on TTS every blue moon. I'm new to MS so I'm a bit green when it comes to how it's played.

For instance, I don't trust meta reads at all - over the years I'm confident that I can play with and against my 'meta', so I'm inherently distrustful of meta reads and doubly distrustful when players are self-referential in meta. To me, each game is it's own self-contained bubble. I've learned in a few games here that isn't the most widespread of opinions.

[Keychain]

I'm a huge fan of meta reads but can't be bothered doing the research to make them any good

Also yes fun intro, but either you're

way

quicker at finding images than me, or I assume this opening was planned out considerably ahead of gamestart

well that would mean that i was lying about the psychic coincidence of checking mafiascum right as the game started, no?

is that what you think?

You can plan out a post and also be psychically checking ms as the game starts, I don't see how the two are related? My comment was more sparked by Umlaut saying he(?) liked the intro and adding you to his coalition, since I personally wouldn't get much tell from a pre prepared post. Also semi interested to see if you'd admit you prepared it.

[Dunnstral]

I didn't. But more importantly, what did you like about Keychain's entrance?

Just a feeling. If you disagree that's fine. I didn't like Deltabreedy because they didn't make it clear if they were voting me because they disagreed with me or not; now I'm not sure why they are not a fan of my "aggressive coalition building"

[Dunnstral]

I don't consider me putting somebody into the coalition to be me betting the game that they are town. I think being aggressive and pushing a coalition early based on gut feeling is more likely to be successful than dragging it on and allowing mafia to influence things. Also taking more time on day 1 when we have no info is not likely to be helpful to us.

[Bingle]

For instance, I don't trust meta reads at all

That's really unfortunate. My meta is being town, so it's really just easier overall if you townread me on that.

[Bingle]

Just a feeling. If you disagree that's fine. I didn't like Deltabreedy because they didn't make it clear if they were voting me because they disagreed with me or not; now I'm not sure why they are not a fan of my "aggressive coalition building"

Interesting, we're seeing almost exactly the opposite thing here. I thought Key's entrance had a lot of frantic energy that came across as awkward, but is explained by the excitement she had in joining the game and therefore null to me.

I think Delta's non sequitur response where he didn't really seem to care much about making it understandable what he was saying, but rather just saying the first thing that popped into his head is the towniest thing in the thread right now.

[northsidegal]

Some dead person's razorblades suggest that you were just the last person to confirm and not actually psychic, liesidegal.

his razorblade would be incorrect, then – i'm certain i was one of the first to confirm, not at all any time close to the thread opening.

You can plan out a post and also be psychically checking ms as the game starts, I don't see how the two are related? My comment was more sparked by Umlaut saying he(?) liked the intro and adding you to his coalition, since I personally wouldn't get much tell from a pre prepared post. Also semi interested to see if you'd admit you prepared it.

perhaps my third eye is just closed, but to me i would say planning out in advance a post about what an amazing coincidence it is that you checked mafiascum just as the thread opened opened would be redundant / probably dishonest. it's not really clear to me what explanation there would be otherwise – i wouldn't consider repeatedly refreshing the page or anything to really be a "coincidence" or "psychic".

to actually answer your question, no, i didn't prepare anything. i just googled "crystal ball"

[northsidegal]

For instance, I don't trust meta reads at all - over the years I'm confident that I can play with and against my 'meta', so I'm inherently distrustful of meta reads and doubly distrustful when players are self-referential in meta.

ahh, nostalgia

[northsidegal]

{nsg}
{umlaut}
{dunnstral, delta}
{keychain, bingle}

[northsidegal]

I can't read Northside's #25. I'm finding this bit about psychic whatevers a bit odd.

open your third eye and all will become clear

[Keychain]

You can plan out a post and also be psychically checking ms as the game starts, I don't see how the two are related? My comment was more sparked by Umlaut saying he(?) liked the intro and adding you to his coalition, since I personally wouldn't get much tell from a pre prepared post. Also semi interested to see if you'd admit you prepared it.

perhaps my third eye is just closed, but to me i would say planning out in advance a post about what an amazing coincidence it is that you checked mafiascum just as the thread opened opened would be redundant / probably dishonest. it's not really clear to me what explanation there would be otherwise – i wouldn't consider repeatedly refreshing the page or anything to really be a "coincidence" or "psychic".

to actually answer your question, no, i didn't prepare anything. i just googled "crystal ball"

Oh damn your third eye is right, somehow I didn't connect the psychicness of you arriving early to your psychic reads and just assumed you were going to come in with psychic reads regardless, so that would indeed be an amazing coincidence. This all makes sense now, carry on

Interesting, we're seeing almost exactly the opposite thing here. I thought Key's entrance had a lot of frantic energy that came across as awkward, but is explained by the excitement she had in joining the game and therefore null to me.

I was camping the micro queue and then hassling people to join the game, your read of the frantic energy is correct and I

am

going to try and tone it down so the game isn't too annoying to read for the people who aren't here yet!

but in the meantime, HEAL: northsidegal. I was iffy on Delta but it's a good point that he's just saying the first thing that pops into his head

[patchwork]

hiii delta

[patchwork]

there's blobs of text ill read those later

[patchwork]

I can't read Northside's #25. I'm finding this bit about psychic whatevers a bit odd.

i feel like they're just meming

[Deltabreedy]

UNVOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Northsidegal

It's all a bit deliberately unhelpful, and in #39 it's not clear which way round the reads go.
I'd encourage people to remove Northside from their coalition vote, even if they disagree with the limvote.

[Deltabreedy]

Hi patch!

[northsidegal]

UNVOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Northsidegal

It's all a bit deliberately unhelpful, and in #39 it's not clear which way round the reads go.
I'd encourage people to remove Northside from their coalition vote, even if they disagree with the limvote.

do you think that i'm scumreading myself most out of anyone

[Deltabreedy]

You put yourself in there? I mean I guess it goes along with the bit you've been doing but it wasn't really clear like

Also I googled 'Crystal ball' and that image didn't come up. That itself is NAI but I get the sense it was a prepared post and that kinda does give me bad vibes.

[northsidegal]

i can understand the confusion if you've never seen the format before, but did you actually even look at who was in the list? or did you just not notice that i put my name at the top

also, curious – what about putting myself at the top "goes along with the bit [i've] been doing"?