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[curiouskarmadog]

Quick skim of Curious Karma's ISO would move them into slight scumlean for me at the moment. I could be on the wrong track but their posts don't feel like they're coming from a town mindset so far.

LOL, well you covered all of your bases then didnt you? "Im leaning scum, but could be wrong" What post in particular do you feel is not coming from a town mindset?

If I am leaning scum in your opinion, why not vote me? I am not close to being hammered. And so much information could come out of a little pressure.

I play this way a lot. I'll admit when I'm uncertain and I'm often uncertain early game. Never feel the need to go all-out with a read as town because to do so wouldn't reflect how I'm thinking.

I don't tend to vote heavily early game as a general rule and I'd have Ballpoint down as scummier than you anyway.

Post 97 pinged me a little because the joking attempt to get a wagon on you feels really forced - as is your hint now I should vote for you. You clearly don't think you should be read as scum so why do you want attention to be wasted on you? It feels like a failed attempt at wanting to look townie by acting as if you're cool with people voting for you. It doesn't reflect how you're approaching the game.

I don't think Andante is particularly scummy and feel like your push there is pretty weak.

Noted...and thank you for your answers.

so telling people to vote me is not from a town mindset? hmmmm Is it a scum mindset then? Or just a null? In my day I played this a lot. And the MOST information gathered is from the wagons...why they formed...why they failed or succeeded. who was on it and why they stated they joined it, who defended it. I want to get that started. If I make it through this wagon or not, I still win as town if people LEARN FROM IT

also note: as a wolf, I would say all of the above as well. But truth is still truth, wagon is where the true scum hunting can be found.

[curiouskarmadog]

also side note: I am out of town 03/30 until 04/02 (might be able to post on the 2nd). Feel free to mark your calendars accordingly.

[KawaiiKame]

It's meta to a degree but I'm more simply pointing out Andante's jokey early tone and attempt to make friends is conductive to their approach as town and I've seen it before. It doesn't particularly alarm me at this stage of the game.

I don't think their vote on you is astonishingly fleshed out, but their logic that they think the scumread is really weak in a way they don't believe to be town feels consistent enough that it again doesn't ping or worry me at all.

Any games specifically that Andante opens jokingly as town/is this all encompassing play? What scumread is really weak in a way they don't believe to be town? I'm commenting in media res so I'm in confusion with the context

[KawaiiKame]

And the MOST information gathered is from the wagons...why they formed...why they failed or succeeded. who was on it and why they stated they joined it, who defended it. I want to get that started. If I make it through this wagon or not, I still win as town if people LEARN FROM IT

I did not think so much info would come in with wagon analysis, but I feel you in this, it's one of the best ways to gain info, especially on a flip- How do you tell when town joins a wagon vs. when scum joins a wagon?

[Hu Tao]

I think Hu Tao can go to my town pile.

@Hu Tao: what's your experience with Mafia games?

Why?

I liked his response to the pressure.

Bub explained it better in 118.

This also answers Hu Tao's 109.

What about

Hu Tao

's response to pressure did you like? This slot has spent more energy being on the defensive than doing actual scumhunting. Seems to be quite comfortable sitting on the

curiouskarmadog

wagon, which appears to be a cozy place to be for the time being.

I literally started the Curious wagon. What are you saying? This post is VERY suspicious.

[Hu Tao]

I'm glad with curious votes. I think they are the most suspicious still. No updates to my reads. I do think someone who was on my wagon is likely scum trying to put a vote down, but I can't say that is all for certain

Hu Tao (2):

ballpointpen, Bub Bidderskins

Really like who?

Notice how I said

was

not is.

[Cephrir]

I'm fine if we push this slot to a claim.

seems really premature to me

I dont see why it is? Whats the point of this wagon if not to lim them or get information out of them that makes us not want to lim them?

To see how they react

Idk he only has a handful of posts and I got town vibes off a couple of them so even though I do see why this wagon exists I'm skeptical

[GuyInFreezer]

I bet I can so many people angry by claiming that I townread ckd.

someone has got to eventually. BUT I am curious WHY. In my opinion as we get closer to the resolution (lynch or counterwagon) I imagine at least one scum will come to my defense to get some town cred upon my reveal. I dont feel like we are in that stage yet, BUT I am curious WHY you feel I am town.

mod: I remember reading you dont like the word "lynch" what is the preferred alternative?

It’s all gut reads atm.

Also ppl use “elimination” as an alternative these days

[Cephrir]

I'll sheep the CKD case.

VOTE: CKD

do you have any other thoughts about the game so far

Pretty sure you and Bub are both town.

Though my read on you is... tenuous af and is basically null.

How do you go from “pretty sure” to “tenuous”? In the span of 2 posts?

I reskimmed since then and now I'm not really feeling it.

I actually think this is +town for KT

[GuyInFreezer]

Ceph who’s your relatively strongest townreads atm

[GuyInFreezer]

Uh townread not townreads.
I only need one name.

[Cephrir]

Kowah is probably town too yeah?

Yes it's quite obvious

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

This post is pinging me so I must investigate

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually VOTE: Andante for now

[GuyInFreezer]

Kowah is probably town too yeah?

Yes it's quite obvious

Good good.
I like having confirmations.

[Cephrir]

It's meta to a degree but I'm more simply pointing out Andante's jokey early tone and attempt to make friends is conductive to their approach as town and I've seen it before. It doesn't particularly alarm me at this stage of the game.

I don't think their vote on you is astonishingly fleshed out, but their logic that they think the scumread is really weak in a way they don't believe to be town feels consistent enough that it again doesn't ping or worry me at all.

Any games specifically that Andante opens jokingly as town/is this all encompassing play? What scumread is really weak in a way they don't believe to be town? I'm commenting in media res so I'm in confusion with the context

This is NAI it's just andante's personality

[Cephrir]

Uh townread not townreads.
I only need one name.

Kow, with Bub a close second

[GuyInFreezer]

Putting Greetings as town for now too.
I’m just not feeling scum there.

[GuyInFreezer]

Uh townread not townreads.
I only need one name.

Kow, with Bub a close second

Great!
I think I called bub town after reading page 1.

[GuyInFreezer]

Bub
Kowah
CKD
Greetings

I just need to find 5 more towns until I start lol limming the rest

[ballpointpen]

Ballpoint feels scummiest to me so far on gut instinct alone, feel like they're picking/probing at a lot of things in a way that makes them look busy and inquisitive but without there being much substance beyond that. There's a caginess to their play but also a desire to look busy and active that isn't chiming with me so far.

Hu Tao feels a little bit scummy too.

saying less is better than saying more
ive learned quite a bit from my interactions, but the better question is whether you have as well, and what you want to do with that information

This reply doesn't particularly make me feel any better about you being town. Again it's very cagey - I'm not saying you're saying nothing at all, my claim is I feel you've been cagey and are trying to look busier than you are in reality and posts like this look like you're trying to put across a viewpoint or defend your playstyle without saying much at all.

... Cagey early game style,

not really getting a solid thought or logical process from them thus far

.

ahhhhh i see
the direct answer to your questions is yes, im currently witholding my thought process because i was worried that i wouldn't actually recieve anything meaningful by casting votes on people i had hints of suspicion on
things are a little clearer and you can expect me to start voicing some of my concerns now
one of which was glitch, which was definitely a trail i wanted to pursue because of his weird "there's nothing notable" attitude but there was nothing to really discover by voting him, especially since he's been gone for over 2 days after promising the read a bit after work

[Cephrir]

I am having... A Thought Process

@ckd- why did you call for a wagon on yourself as opposed to someone else?

[GuyInFreezer]

Why does 7 people still have less posts than a mod after 3 days has passed?

[Cephrir]

Btw I think promising content and failing to deliver it is a scumteam and that's why I'm voting glitch

[Cephrir]

Scumtell**