Newbie 2117 | Postgame

[Andante]

I find it odd that you didn't use that hammer post or the one after to do so.

I literally tried to comment after you but thread got locked.

[Andante]

don't go accusing me of "how dare you not post" like bruh.. thread was locked and we had to wait a year for the flip...

[Black]

delta +Kawaii?

Could be, but I still kinda TR kawaii. I agree with python though that kawaii is pretty hard to read

I wouldn't rule out mala or chao here. Maybe even Blue but that might be me being paranoid about my townreads usually being scum XD

I'm also not ruling out Delta being town here, or you lying, fwiw

[Andante]

UNVOTE: Andante

Fair enough - Can you go back and justify your read on Blue please?

I find it odd that you didn't use that hammer post or the one after to do so.

Ninja'd: I mean... Okay? It feels like all you have is that you disagree with me

Triple ninja'd: Given the pressure that Black is applying with some really quite loose logic, I'm really not liking the assertion that it 'has to be' one of me or Andante. Given the claim, I'd also now suggest that there is potential that Black has an investigative mafia role and has very deliberately sought to position an argument that sides with a claimed PR

That would also in my mind cast doubt on the validity of Andante's claim, but in isolation I'm more comfortable now applying pressure here:

VOTE: Black

Fucken Jesus Christ let me post

Why do you want to pressure the actual only other person doing anything? if you pick, literally ANYONE else... good may come of it

[Black]

Delta, that vote implies you think I'm scum with Andante

I don't believe that you actually believe that

You're cracking under pressure here

[Andante]

delta +Kawaii?

Could be, but I still kinda TR kawaii. I agree with python though that kawaii is pretty hard to read

I wouldn't rule out mala or chao here. Maybe even Blue but that might be me being paranoid about my townreads usually being scum XD

I'm also not ruling out Delta being town here, or you lying, fwiw

it's the kawaii, blue, chao, mala group I am not a fan of. like, AT LEAST 2 are town, yet honestly? none are doing that much sooo yeah. I'm more interested in dealing with that at this moment then "must get delta" or "need to pressure black"

cause what? we lim one of me, black, delta, they flip town, tomorrow is lylo with impossible to read players. just saying, I think we literally HAVE to deal with these 4 today if there is even the slightest chance of a town win

[Andante]

Delta, Black, can we PLEASE just assume we're all town for now and deal with the other 4, cause I do not believe it is both of you if either, meaning the group of 4....

[Deltabreedy]

Andante, is there a good reason that I should not be looking at Black for today's Lim?

If so let me know and I can look at everything with fresh eyes tomorrow. If there isn't a good reason, then can you commit to weighing what I'm saying up without any prejudice from the fact that an hour ago I was advocating for your Lim?

Ninja'd again by everything Jesus I can't type fast on phone

@Andante because when I read Black's argument it feels really very contrived - I've clearly had a bad take on reads here assuming you are in fact a PR, and by positioning themselves in the way that they have, they've taken your side and earned your support pre-claim and it's all very fabricated IMO.

Ninja'd: The vote implies that I think there is a decent chance that you are potentially scum that has rolecopped Andante and understands that there is value to being on-side with a claimed PR. You seemed to know before the claim that Andante was town and I believe I caught a slip in an earlier post which I quoted. Me voting you doesn't imply that I think Andante is town, and in the absence of any other interaction it also doesn't necessarily clear Andante, but I'm more inclined to drop my read on her and focus on you.

To clarify, beyond something groundbreaking - my vote is not going on Andante today.

My vote stays on Black for now, but I think it's worth hearing from the remaining players before Black and I lock horns too definitively.

[Deltabreedy]

I'm inherently distrustful of Black (Meta read, call me a hypocrite in post) so I'm struggling here because I really feel like the push this day has been in bad faith. There is still every chance that this is TvT but I want to hear from everyone else (And re-read the game) before I commit to any other arguments.

[Black]

I want to make it clear that I am in no way interested in limming anyone right now. I have a feeling about Delta but of course I could be wrong. We definitely need to hear from everyone else and if I could choose we wouldn't end day until much closer to the deadline

[Black]

You seemed to know before the claim that Andante was town and I believe I caught a slip in an earlier post which I quoted.

There was no slip. You can read the comment and pretty clearly see I was talking from a POV of you being scum

[Andante]

Andante, is there a good reason that I should not be looking at Black for today's Lim?

whatever. if you want to be alive tomorrow after limming town!black and having to sort in... the 4.. be my guest

[Black]

Delta this is all very OMGUS from you. I was your top TR until I shared my suspicion of you. This reaction from you doesn't look good at all imo

[Deltabreedy]

[invite]Black[/invite]

I'm committing now to re-evaluating everything and doing a full re-read of the four remaining (other) players and associatives.

Don't let me forget, either of you please.

Ninja'd god damn you had to post that there then

[Deltabreedy]

Also nice one phone - very cool autocorrect.

UNVOTE: Black

[Deltabreedy]

You're right, I've reacted poorly.

I think we have a 50% chance of limming scum today.

[Black]

[invite]Black[/invite]

Ooo where are we going?!

[Deltabreedy]

Victoryville, population... us?

[Black]

Hmmmm. TBD I suppose

I'll be around some tonight but I probably won't have much to add until mala/blue/chao/kawaii get here

[Malakittens]

Where’s my invite

[chaodck]

Good morning lads and lasses, nice to have another mornin' with you.
I'm still trying to find my place in all of this, I really don't know much what to think.

I do have an opinion about Andante's hammer though. I think that it's too much a risk for a wolf to do a hammer like that on day 1, the amount of pressure to put onto is way too much. It's too obvious.

[Deltabreedy]

Need a bit more from you than that, Mala

[Andante]

I think chaod town! I agree! Andante hammer too wild to be from scum

alright pool of 4 down to 3 for where scum is. easy enough.

[Deltabreedy]

I'd caution against being too certain - it feels a smidge like you're believing solely those who agree with you. I took your claim and believed it and you've jumped off me, Chao believes your claim and you've discounted them as an option - I think scum is still within the four of them and until we hear from them all I'm not clearing any of them.

[Black]

Where’s my invite

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