Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

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Good morining all, I'm still drunk from yesterday night.

VOTE: Goldfish for making us wait

~b

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Was the last to confirm. At least it was the last to become bolded in the playerlist iirc

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*she, sorry

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I also suspect that Enchant's greenscum claim makes them have >rand chance of being redscum, so I'm going to FoS: Enchant .

Why?

And, why did you need to remark that you

refused

to cast a RVS vote? You're clearly not adverse to throwing votes around

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I also suspect that Enchant's greenscum claim makes them have >rand chance of being redscum, so I'm going to FoS: Enchant .

Why?

And, why did you need to remark that you

refused

to cast a RVS vote? You're clearly not adverse to throwing votes around

I'm refusing to make a nonsensical vote on a nonposter. I am not adverse to trying to get the game out of RVS, even if it includes a semi-random vote.

Right, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm actually asking why you needed to say that, you could very well just not partake in RVS voting and I don't think anyone would have pestered you for that

I agree it's time to get off RVS, but how does saying "we have an innocent child already?" do that?

How indeed? Oh look, it just did.

Anyway, I would like to confirm that this is something they just are, not something they did, and Narration just forgot to include it when opening the day. There apparently is such a thing as activated innocent child, but using it right out of the gate would be odd.

Random thing I

forgot

. Hell Froze Over is confirmed to be a disciple of

Invocation

.

Yep, it's a passive ability. Narration already stated he just forgot

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Also, we haven't actually left RVS. So saying "wow we have an innocent child" has barely contributed. Therefore I shall keep my vote on Feysal.

Oh no, are we having the semi-rvs discussion we had in Weird Dreams all over again? Is your vote a "phase II" rvs vote?

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Wait I just realized that "hell froze over" is called that way because Drew probably said something along the lines of "I'll hydra when hell freezes over".
That's actually neat.

Pretty accurate, and I still feel dirty being part of a hydra.

But at least as IC, I can shit post and no one can scum read me for it....excellent.

-Drew

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I know nobody can touch me.

Why, sure can, whatch me. VOTE: Dragon

No tagbacks.

~b

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I think it's not more letter eating like "scum not scum" it's more that you assume that one of teams could benefit town which is not assumption commonly made.

I disagree, when I first saw the teams (in the OP) I was thinking it's probably about a coin toss on whether or Benediction can win with town, and it's clear Malediction can't.
Of course this might be incorrect due to bastard element of mod misdirection, but there's a reason I claimed Benediction and not Malediction in my opening post.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that there's a

possibility

of Benediction being able to benefit town.

I still don't see the reason frankly. If I wanted to claim scum in RVS myself I would have done it properly and go with the evil-sounding faction. Or at least make it a somewhat funny shitpost like enchant did.

You did notably gloss over my question, so I'll reiterate. Was you feysal vote serious or was it what you called "phase II rvs" in Dreams?

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Noted.

VOTE: Abnegation

How dare someone be presented before me in lexicographic order

Also it did but only because I voted you

Also, we haven't actually left RVS

Which is it atm?

@Mod: Is it public knowledge that disciples of benediction are threats to town

There.

I think it's pretty obvious that they are considering we're playing mafia, a game pitting uninformed majorities against informed minorities.

The stretch to entertain the idea they aren't reads to me as a possible play to fake a dumb not-benediction faction tell more than honest concern.

I woul also like to ask @dragon to specify which of those is the scummiest post. Because if it's the rvs one that feels omgus-y, and if it's the benediction one that feels chainsaw-y

~b

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VOTE: IceDragon

Also I don't think either of us mentioned it, but we are ascetic.

-Drew

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you do realize the implications of your claim, right?

I don't think I do?

-Drew

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Ascetic IC actually makes a lot of sense. No saving them from scum. That alone doesn't validate my role though cause they are an IC. (I mean I could spend a night checking it but they're probably going to die sooner or later anyways.)

Oh I get what you were getting at Ab, as stated by Rauth here.

Bianco and I just wanted to make sure the checking wasn't wasted on us.

-Drew

Pre Edit: Ya there is that, but again we would be wasting a potential town protector on us.

There is good and bad to me making the claim here. But listen, I took the chance to be in a hydra lol, so might as well keep living dangerously.

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Drew is obviously capping to try and trick me into killing him. I won't fall for it, he and bianco are obviously getting protected tonight.

Right guys?

nah, he's saying that so you think he's capping and leave him alive.

abnegation shoots hell froze over.

Jokes on you, we were a Jester!

GG all, was fun to finally play in a hydra.

-Drew

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Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

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Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

-Drew

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@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Oops. I somehow accidentally added a space between Blue and Snakelet. Sorry about that.

Blue is a user that exists apparently, lol. Guess they're getting kind of confused rn if they've read the PM

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hi goldie!
(alianna here)

Still angry over chatGPT

*shakes fist angrily*

-Drew

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You raise it simply to say to leave it?

Pretty much. With a claim like this, I expect corroborating evidence to turn up sooner or later - such as the presence of a cop who can get those reads as results.

The point of the claim is that no such waste of power occurs, if you're Marked you lose a lot of damage when you miss.

The solution here is simply that the person must be shown a game over screen, probably before we get the choice of Sheol or Cathedral...

Ehy @Keeper, wdym with the Marked paragraph? You don't lose damage on misses with Marked, you do with Dead Eye

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Hot take, broken shovel is actually quite decent if you don't mind moving around a lot. It's like an High Priestess? card each floor

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A thought appears to be locked inside the Top Secret Room. Fortunately I have bombs.

It is possible for someone to be multiple non town alignments.

This is a singular though to just pop out. I'm pretty sure there exist a multifaction traitor in gim or perhaps abloaf, I'm too lazy to go check rn; but other than that, I don't think I've ever seen this concept. I take it that you do have a blue map of sort?

Never.

And I said what I said.

It could well be that we have someone who carries Duality. Able to be both Angel and Devil - but never reveal such to the other.

Sorry, but I just don't get what are you answering never to. Likely just a parsing problem, can you clarify please?

Something related to what their role might be.

Explain

If it's what I may glimpse, I'd prefer he doesn't explain actually.

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VOTE: Abnegation

How dare someone be presented before me in lexicographic order

Has anyone noticed that I'm the only player not in correct alphabetical order in the first VC? I'm probably the chosen one

I suspect it may have something to do with you being the only lowercase username. Maybe it's sorted by looking at the ascii char number of the first letter

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I'm finding it hard to resist the urge to vote you for that

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A thought appears to be locked inside the Top Secret Room. Fortunately I have bombs.

It is possible for someone to be multiple non town alignments.

This is a singular though to just pop out. I'm pretty sure there exist a multifaction traitor in gim or perhaps abloaf, I'm too lazy to go check rn; but other than that, I don't think I've ever seen this concept. I take it that you do have a blue map of sort?

Never.

And I said what I said.

It could well be that we have someone who carries Duality. Able to be both Angel and Devil - but never reveal such to the other.

Sorry, but I just don't get what are you answering never to. Likely just a parsing problem, can you clarify please?

Something related to what their role might be.

Explain

If it's what I may glimpse, I'd prefer he doesn't explain actually.

Early on, it's easy to find such rooms without needing the maps, just a bomb and some intuition.
You already worked it out.

One Dollar...

Can you be bribed in some way?

-Drew

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The one part about their play I found odd is they also seemed confused by a hydra, the heads of which should have been obvious, but they kept changing their signature as a running gag

Is this a subtle attack at me for forgetting to sign my posts? Touché.

Wait a minute... how does one simultaneously theorize Benediction being benign, and suspect someone of slipping they were not?

VOTE: Rauth
However, I do believe that this is not quite an inconsistency. I'd be interested in seeing Rauth's answer this themselves.

~b

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benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.

I'm not making assumptions one way or another, just pointing out a potential slip. Like I said, day two or once we get some flavor we might get more insight into what is happening in regards to what the threats to Invocation are.

Wait a minute... how does one simultaneously theorize Benediction being benign, and suspect someone of slipping they were not?

The theory was meant to provoke discussion and get us out of RVS. I don't actually believe it to be the case, and without night actions or a flip to show otherwise I will be treating the game as having two antagonistic factions against town.

I'm reading through the game again myself, if a bit slowly due to distractions outside of the game.

Ok, but. If you're treating both scumfactions as malign, you surely agree that it would be reasonable for any other Invocation to do the same, barring Informed and somesuch; then I don't see where the scumslip is

~b

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What do you think of ActionDan's ISO? To me it looks like a bunch of nothing

trying to look like something

I mean, you were not just saying that it was nothing, you were saying (per the

underlined

) that it was malicious nothing.

~b

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I have AD as town but don’t tell him

Uh, wrong thread?
~b

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Sounded like a thing you wanted to tell to the other head.

AD is hearing you here

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@mod, does 365 means that members of Benediction are, in fact, threats to Invocation?

Hereabove I define "threat to Invocation" as a player that

must

be erased for Invocation to reach their wincon.

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Of course it's possible that the mod could just lie while answering our bolded questions, but for sanity's sake I'll not open that can of worms rn.

~b

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In a game where the moderator can lie, and has already answered around the question...

Why are we trying to brute force this? All we will get is the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I'd imagine Benediction cannot claim. It would be contrary to their wincon as a knowing faction.

Also kinda not a fan of AD asking for the Bene's to claim.

-Drew

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So... yeah. How someone could genuinely be confused by that stretched the limits of credibility a little.

It was a (bad) joke lol. Partly to apologize in passing for my lack of signing
~b

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we've got 3 days and we haven't made much progress. now is not the time to be vague and hold things back.

Yeah, game's pretty slow uh.
You're not voting anyone. You don't like the Rauth wagon?

~b

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Ehi furtive, lemme sell you a wagon

Wait a minute... how does one simultaneously theorize Benediction being benign, and suspect someone of slipping they were not?

Spoiler: actual quote

The theory was meant to provoke discussion and get us out of RVS. I don't actually believe it to be the case, and without night actions or a flip to show otherwise I will be treating the game as having two antagonistic factions against town.

Oh no I was just pretending to believe that, in reality with no extra info I'm assuming they are both malign

Spoiler:

Ok, but. If you're treating both scumfactions as malign, you surely agree that it would be reasonable for any other Invocation to do the same, barring Informed and somesuch; then I don't see where the scumslip is

But if that's so, how the fuck was Enchant slipping in your pov for assuming the same thing as you do?

Spoiler:

That... is true. I'll admit I'm a fan of more exotic setups, and thus tend to think about them as a possibility more then most players would.

Oh, green not being malign is a thing that I though about for reasons (which is somehow a relevant thing to say despite the fact that I admitted this is not an opinion I actually hold)

I mean c'mon, what. If you eat your cake, you don't have it anymore, and you can't both admit you're treating the game as if it is two malign groupscum,

and

behave like treating the game as if it is two malign groupscum is somehow a scumslip.

Like, if they said that they would expect invocations to not assume green to be evil, that would have been a thing, but their explicitly saying that they themselves are taking that position

~b

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*they're explicitly saying... let's blame that on the autocorrect

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Careful there, I think talking about site activity in other games at the very least walks the line if not even surpass it

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Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

This... is actually a massive towntell, right?
I think if Blue is scum he'd have, like, he'd know the day started by either scum PT locking or his buddy telling him, right?

A social deduction game is a game in which players attempt to uncover each other's hidden role or team allegiance. Commonly, these games are played with teams, with one team being considered "good" and another being "bad". During gameplay, players can use logic and deductive reasoning to try to deduce one another's roles, while other players can bluff to keep players from suspecting them.

Ok so we can stop worrying about Enchant.

And start worrying about Hugir.

-Drew

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Hey guys I grabbed a really cute avatar uwu I hope you liek it

Though, do love the badass avatar

-Drew

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Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

This... is actually a massive towntell, right?
I think if Blue is scum he'd have, like, he'd know the day started by either scum PT locking or his buddy telling him, right?

A social deduction game is a game in which players attempt to uncover each other's hidden role or team allegiance. Commonly, these games are played with teams, with one team being considered "good" and another being "bad". During gameplay, players can use logic and deductive reasoning to try to deduce one another's roles, while other players can bluff to keep players from suspecting them.

Ok so we can stop worrying about Enchant.

And start worrying about Hugir.

-Drew

Didn't want this getting ignored

-Drew

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WORDS WORDS WORDS OCCAM'S RAZOR WORDS

Bit excessive. Good way to dissuade people from poking you on this point further
~b

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In the event I do survive to night, I have to consider if I should target the claimed ascetic to see if they are ascetic, or... target someone else and see if my role card isn't entirely accurate.

You mean you want to check the ascetic

IC

? To see if they're lying?

Clearly we're either telling the truth or we have a good reason to pretend, in which case you should not want to interfere with a town gambit anyway
~b

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Yeah, if you're really a checker, on the contrary targeting us is just about the most completely useless thing you can do.

Your role is also a fuckton more useless now that you've claimed it since now you aren't getting roleblocked unless hell blazes up again, so you are so concerned about being useful, you shouldn't have claimed unprompted but I digress.

Also, while even mention that you have to consider checking us, if you then yourself says that it's a bad idea and aren't gonna do it? That's the same shit again like with the benediction thing, you put forth an hypotesis and then, as soon as you're poked a little, you retcon it away

^ffs, I had to slip at some point
~b

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I didn't even realize I was investigative at the start of the game so.

Not really related to the game, but fun fact, in normals, for roles that care about action type (like voyeurs and such), checker is actually not *-investigative; it counts as a miscellaneous role

~b

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Fine.
VOTE: Dragon, E-1

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He said he was on V/LA until Wednesday, so we may have to wait. That seriously blows.

Thou luckily Wednesday is almost over

Mphmf

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Yeah, if you're really a checker, on the contrary targeting us is just about the most completely useless thing you can do.

Your role is also a fuckton more useless now that you've claimed it since now you aren't getting roleblocked unless hell blazes up again, so you are so concerned about being useful, you shouldn't have claimed unprompted but I digress.

Also, while even mention that you have to consider checking us, if you then yourself says that it's a bad idea and aren't gonna do it? That's the same shit again like with the benediction thing, you put forth an hypotesis and then, as soon as you're poked a little, you retcon it away

^ffs, I had to slip at some point
~b

I expect this out of this head, not yours....do better lol.

I support the Ice wagon, though kinda do prefer Rauth, but definitely won't fight it.

And am disappointed that Keeper hasn't posted today from what I see

-Drew

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Hi Dragon, welcome back

Cmon Dragon entertain me with claim.

~b

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Day 1 Count IV

IceDragon70 (

E-1

) - ActionDan, Rautherdir, Abnegation, furtiveglance, Feysal,

Hell Froze Over

Rautherdir (1) - Enchant
Hugir (1) - The Keeper

Not Voting

- IceDragon70, BlueSnakelet, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Hugir, KawaiiKame

Notes

• With 13 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if any mistakes exist or questions missed.
  
• I am V/LA until Good Friday.
  
• Replacing Kawaii and Goldfish.
  
• Hell Froze Over is a disciple of
  Invocation

  .

Day 1

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-07 17:55:00)

yep

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Fine.
VOTE: Dragon, E-1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

There's Enchant...
~b

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UNVOTE:

Mechanically, ID's claimed role would interact wierdly with a Checker I think. Checker's already not all that good, and would quite antisynergyse with an Empowerer. I don't think ID/Rauth are any likely to be both invocation.

A thought came in my mind that, if Benediction has a factional role

stop

, then a Checker would be significantly more useful, and Benediction would be interested in using an Empowerer to neutralize the Checker
~b

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Unfortunately, I don't think that's ai for them. We could try flashwagoning them though if you want to.

I agree it is null, but right now I think both the alternatives are more likely to be town than a shot in the dark. And there is the theory that when multiple replacements happen, they are

slightly

more likely to be scum, because knowing you lost a partner can be demoralizing. Yes, I admit that is weak.

I'm setting my clock to wake me before the deadline, should I need to change my vote.

UNVOTE: IceDragon70
VOTE: KawaiiKame

*SNIP*

Is this game predicated on finding what faction is the town faction? I like you saying that only one informed minority was actually compatible with town, does an uninformed minority potentially exist/does only an uninformed majority exist? I like this post a lot, an informed minority compatible with town ending up being a threat to town is highly useful info, same with Rauth feeling uninformed thus most likely town.

I like this post a lot this deep analysis feels town to me.

Uhh... what...?

Seriously, I was not analyzing anything with this post. I was just sharing an anecdote from years ago, and its only relevance was how rare it is to have non-town factions that can win with town.

A few hours until deadline and you start a new wagon?

WTF is this.

VOTE: Rauth

Fine with Dragon as well, but not sure Feysal is on about.

-Drew

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VOTE: Rautherdir

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I think that {Rauth, Ice} is almost surely not all town. If this flips blue I'm pretty confident that Ice is green

~b

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Oh. I forgot Drew did vote there.
Sorry.
~b

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I'm setting my clock to wake me before the deadline, should I need to change my vote.

Well then, I say if Feysal doesn't make it in time that's pretty much a scumclaim
~b

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Is this game predicated on finding what faction is the town faction? I like you saying that only one informed minority was actually compatible with town, does an uniformed minority potentially exist/does only an uniformed majority exist? I like this post a lot, an informed minority compatible with town ending up being a threat to town is highly useful info,

same with Rauth feeling uniformed thus most likely town

@Feysal; would a green lay it so tick thou?

Keeper might be Malediction due to some phrasing they used that was in flavor provided to Benediction and I assume would also be in Malediction's.

But yes this game is an example of why I should not actually post my unfiltered thoughts, it gets me eliminated.

well, do tell. We're seeing that after your flip anyway, and in it's in everyone (including yours) interest that we have some time to discuss before lock
~b

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Neither

Benediction or Malediction's intent in finding each other is to kill, but something else, though death will be the end result.

this gave me arsonist paranoia but rh locked the thread before i could yell about it.

Tbh that doesn't sound like an arsonist clue to me; mostly because we've got a death, and if one of the two factions can freely kill the

neither

would make no sense, unless Benediction happened to mistakenly believe otherwise yesterday.

Also igniting is a kill anyway. Also idk how much faith we should put in the words of a green
~b

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Is this game predicated on finding what faction is the town faction? I like you saying that only one informed minority was actually compatible with town, does an uniformed minority potentially exist/does only an uniformed majority exist? I like this post a lot, an informed minority compatible with town ending up being a threat to town is highly useful info, same with Rauth feeling uniformed thus most likely town

Unabashed apology of Rauth -- with no further clarification other than "feels town" (with a side of pocketing Feysal, but that's not the point I want to make now)

We need momentum
VOTE: IceDragon70

Wait furitive said the momentum is with raith but I'm not feeling it
*rauth

Attempt to move the heat away from Rauth to an alternative wagon -- notably I was also somewhat guilty of this, but the timing here is all wrong, and I find it hard to believe that they genuinely didn't see the momentum shifting back to Rauth.

Kawaii did not want this lim. I'm actually fairly confident that they would have preferred a nolim to it.
This makes no sense from a red, especially if it's true that they can't crosskill directly. This also makes little sense from blue; it's also an unfortunate stretegy for green, but at least it would make some sense.

Ah, but alas, can vote no longer.
~b

P-E: curious claim, I would expect this sort of thing to be claimed D1 or not at all. Thou your predecessor ended up replaced on activity so I'll cut you some slack

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i've played with town!kawaii before (game link here). the tone is the same, but i'm not scumreading them for tone. it's more that their content doesn't really make sense and might point to being partnered with rauther.
they are way lurkier here, but it seems they've flaked the site.

So, curious thing, did anyone notice they were actually online for a brief window at the end of D1, around a quarter hour before the hammer?
Notably, they did not hammer.
~b

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We need momentum
VOTE: IceDragon70

we have 6 hours left, we need an execution.
could you share reads if you've got any?

I'm liking feysal with what I'm seeing, enchant feels okay, straight up claiming green is nai in rvs is nai to me, rauth feels slight town/null, I'm not liking that furitive is wagon flipping though this might be how town furitive acts, 0 conviction, I feel you okay, we do need an execution

Wait furitive said the momentum is with raith but I'm not feeling it
*rauth

@KawaiiKame:

can you say a bit more about not feeling Rauth at the time?

Feeling, the way Rauth spoke/acted seemed like semi lost town to me, I didn't get the impression everyone else was getting of Rauth so I didn't vote, maybe I missed something with what was being said

Glad you're back.

Anyway, a more pressing question is why you chose Dragon over Rauth to provide momentum near the end of D1. Dragon was bleeding votes when you did, if we needed momentum you'd expect to jump into the raising wagon, not the falling one

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Yeah let's sheep the dead guy.

vote Kawaii

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I'm the dead guy and I want Kawaii dead. There isn't much more to it tbh

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Insert Flavour

Light flees from The Keeper; They are not a disciple of

Benediction

.

Insert More Flavour

Hell Froze Over ,

Deification

, was deleted but their spirit lives on.

Spoiler: Deification

Salutations, you are a manifestation of

Deification

!

Role Abilities:

• Deification (Passive)
  : As a manifestation of
  Deification
  , all actions, except for deletions, will fail on you, as though they were blocked.
  
• Deification (Passive)
  : As a manifestation of
  Deification
  , you are publicly confirmed to be a disciple of
  Invocation
  , and if you are ever erased, you will instead be stumped, losing all of your abilities except your voice.

Win Condition:

• You win if all threats to the disciples of
  Invocation
  are erased and at least one
  Invocation
  -aligned concept remains.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

They may continue speaking though they will be counted as erased.

Treestump basically

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Did you just not read the flip or are you pretending not to have for townie points?

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okay.

how about like i'm 3?

Green & red bad; blue good

Scum is not guaranteed to have a standard factional kill, and probably doesn't. A green told us that scum don't want to, or can't, cross-nk for some reason.

And the mod can lie, anything goes

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is that a neighbourizer?

Yes, I'm in a vacuum/neighborhood with Aisa so a second one must exist since I didn't select Aisa
pedit: I didn't vacuum aisa

No offence, but that's very fake sounding. Why the hell would your mind think "oh, there must be another extraversion" instead of a bus driver or something?

Answer with an integer: how many target does your night action have?

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• The only Bastard mechanic present is the possibility of mod misdirection.

i was going to say "redirector?" but this would suggest otherwise.

I don't think myself a bus driver (or similars) is bastard :shrug:

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Aand Kawaii is offline again

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Ironically I actually think nm saying that in the scum pt only to be bastardish

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is that a neighbourizer?

Yes, I'm in a vacuum/neighborhood with Aisa so a second one must exist since I didn't select Aisa
pedit: I didn't vacuum aisa

No offence, but that's very fake sounding. Why the hell would your mind think "oh, there must be another extraversion" instead of a bus driver or something?

Answer with an integer: how many target does your night action have?

I do not know if a bus driver exists, I only know that my role exists, which is why I'm thinking a 2nd extroversion extroversion since they have the power I have
1 target

So your power is "put X in

a

vacuum", not

your

? That sound really improbable.
Sorry if it's true, but I find it hard to believe.

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that was hammer.

LMAO, it wasn't.
Enchant did not actually unvote since the last VC.

That's the second "hammer" from someone already on wagon in two days, amazing

^headslip

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It's not a hammer anymore, just put Kawaii at E-1. Nothing bad may come of that, do it now

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UNVOTE:

Holding lifes in hands.

You must be angry, FL sniped your hammer.

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I understand the reason for your pressure, Hell Froze Over, though FWIW I would prefer it if it weren't there
VOTE: KawaiiKame

Things about Kawaii's claim that could point to town:
- They came back to answer one of the questions we had after they first claimed.

Things about Kawaii's claim that could point to scum:
- Left after they seemed to think they had been hammered
- Has not claimed their N1 target despite multiple requests to and/or situations in which it could have been natural to just say it
- Neighbouiser claim that's not particularly easy to fake

I mean, sorry, but it's not like there's much else I can do anymore. I just want to feel useful :/

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Hey, sorry that I've kinda stopped playing this.
I did not catched up yet, can I please have a summary of all the claims that happened?

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Ok, so basically you/Blue and Keeper are in a strange hood that had to be built at night

Also I believe from information the moderator has provided in the opening post of the Affiliation Vacuum that I am in a masonry.

So going for the mason is not a good idea.

At this point, I don't see the reason to not eplicitly paraphrase what this information was? I get that there may be mod misdirection, but

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Let’s do a complete reset.

I got a flyer.

Furt, I’m not gonna insta go after you, but explanation?

I'm a 1-way Lover

So basically an Arsonist with a day/nigth Venge ignite? Tbf it does make sense with the "Captivation" flavorname