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[Black]

I don't think his progression Today could have come from scum

Can you elaborate?

[Malakittens]

@Andante, do you have a reason to not say what your role is, even though you already claimed PR?

I don't like this post. I feel like you are fishing for the role, but the last game someone wrote this they were town, but either way the vibe is bad.

[Malakittens]

If Andante is a town PR, she'll either be NK or she'll be roleblocked from now on, now that she already claimed PR.

Unless she's a Mason in A3, now I realize.

Keeping this for notes esp if a RB'er is present on the scumteam.

[BlueSnakelet]

I don't think his progression Today could have come from scum

Can you elaborate?

I'm talking about the 180º he did from accusing Andante to defending Andante against me, trying to stop Andante from full claiming. I think Scum!Delta would instead let Andante claim, and then go after me. He could make the argument that he was simply not online before that.

[Malakittens]

I think chaod town! I agree! Andante hammer too wild to be from scum

alright pool of 4 down to 3 for where scum is. easy enough.

what type of logic is this.

[Black]

I don't think his progression Today could have come from scum

Can you elaborate?

I'm talking about the 180º he did from accusing Andante to defending Andante against me, trying to stop Andante from full claiming. I think Scum!Delta would instead let Andante claim, and then go after me. He could make the argument that he was simply not online before that.

What's your reason for thinking scum Delta would do this? Wolves try to act as townie as possible and it's textbook townie to keep the PR from claiming. It wouldn't make sense for scum!Delta to keep pushing Andante after the claim and defending the PR/discouraging them from giving more info is an easy position for a wolf to take. I did it as scum in my last newbie game

[Black]

I don't think this progression from Delta clears him at all

[Andante]

VOTE: Malakittens

[Andante]

the timing of mala's "return" here, like, it comes right after I hard claimed friendly neighbor, and like the order she chose to answer posts?? I do not believe she didn't see the claim before commenting on stuff... and the way she's trying to pretend she didn't see it, feels scum indicative to me

[Deltabreedy]

If it were me, speaking from an external viewpoint - the weirder thing would be my progression on Black because I went from scumread to locktown (thinking it was 2 masons). The obsession with my read on Andante is weird.

Ninja'd: I'll need to take a second and read to see if I agree with that.

[BlueSnakelet]

Spoiler: Black

I don't think his progression Today could have come from scum

Can you elaborate?

I'm talking about the 180º he did from accusing Andante to defending Andante against me, trying to stop Andante from full claiming. I think Scum!Delta would instead let Andante claim, and then go after me. He could make the argument that he was simply not online before that.

What's your reason for thinking scum Delta would do this? Wolves try to act as townie as possible and it's textbook townie to keep the PR from claiming. It wouldn't make sense for scum!Delta to keep pushing Andante after the claim and defending the PR/discouraging them from giving more info is an easy position for a wolf to take. I did it as scum in my last newbie game
[/quote]

Because letting Andante claim would definitely benefit Mafia, and Delta wasn't at risk of being suspected at that point (Andante had already said she would push people that aren't you, she and Delta). There wasn't too much to gain by stopping Andante's claim.

[Andante]

I claimed in 562, and it looks like mala backread, FROM MY CLAIM, pretending she didn't see it...

[Black]

@Delta - what are your thoughts on Blue? Is he still null to you?

[Deltabreedy]

@Black:

VOTE: BlueSnakelet

I don't like the rolefishing pre-claim and the argument felt very forced. I didn't see it coming from a town mindset.

Also, @Andante:

I don't see your point on Mala. I think it reads fine, but still just really light on content. I have literally no idea what Mala thinks of anyone. #579 reads well but not enough to give me any kind of read on her.

[Black]

There wasn't too much to gain by stopping Andante's claim

I disagree. It definitely earned him town points in your eyes, to the point where you don't even think he could be a wolf anymore. I'd say he gained a lot from that position if he's a wolf here wouldn't you?

[BlueSnakelet]

There wasn't too much to gain by stopping Andante's claim

I disagree. It definitely earned him town points in your eyes, to the point where you don't even think he could be a wolf anymore. I'd say he gained a lot from that position if he's a wolf here wouldn't you?

I guess you're right. I still think we should lim in Mala, chao, Kame Today, but doing so through a lens of "who would make a great partner for Delta" will add a layer of security.

In the meantime, however, I'll help Andante push Mala. She's been the lurkiest of the lurkers, and I really want to hear her speak.

[BlueSnakelet]

VOTE: MalaKittens

[Deltabreedy]

So are you now taking the view that I'm scum, blue? #590 is super unclear and I get the sense that you're just sheeping now and going with the flow.

Can you also justify why Black isn't in your limpool? I'm not saying they necessarily should be, but I want to know why you don't think they should be.

[Deltabreedy]

*snip*

Quoting for attention. You've been active elsewhere on the site today and offered nothing here.

Need something from you and Mala and to an extent Chao as well - not a fan of the chip in comments and then dipping without any real advancement. It's making today really narrow in scope.

[Deltabreedy]

Do you think it'd be advantageous for the person you reached out to as FN to come forwards or for you to tell us who you visited? Or would you rather keep that under wraps for now Andante?
*snip*

@Andante

[Black]

I can't think of any reason for Andante's N1 target to confirm

[Black]

Wait I worded that wrong. I can't think of any reason for them

NOT

to confirm

[BlueSnakelet]

So are you now taking the view that I'm scum, blue? #590 is super unclear and I get the sense that you're just sheeping now and going with the flow.

Can you also justify why Black isn't in your limpool? I'm not saying they necessarily should be, but I want to know why you don't think they should be.

No, I'm just accepting that you

might

be scum. If I really though you were scum, you would be in my limpool.

My townread on Black stayed intact since D1.

[Malakittens]

the timing of mala's "return" here, like, it comes right after I hard claimed friendly neighbor, and like the order she chose to answer posts?? I do not believe she didn't see the claim before commenting on stuff... and the way she's trying to pretend she didn't see it, feels scum indicative to me

I am reading backwards, yes I saw the claim, but I don't understAnd WHY you rolled over to Bluesnake. I felt he was scum fishing for a claim.

[Malakittens]

I also don't see how you are legitatelym clearing bluesnake
nor do i understand why someone saying your hammer was so wild means its clearing from being scum