Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[Gimli]

Because they said the exact opposite in the thread - like Klick said scum would never bus unless they're stupid and Gimli said scum would bus here - and I think it's likely those posts were trying to nudge expectations of their scumplay if scum. It also made me like them both a little less but not that much because I am aware I don't see the game the same way as them but I did find the posts to be ???

where did klick said that?

[Ausuka]

The fact of the matter is that if scum aren't stupid, 5/6 town need to vote together today to eliminate scum. That is heavily on my mind. It means that if you're town, and I think it's entirely realistic that you are town, we are almost certainly going to have to cooperate on choosing an elimination target in some capacity today.

If you want to railroad this into a shouting match where you say what you want to say and then leave the thread like you have the last two game days, go ahead. But if you're town it is very unlikely to lead to a win in this game.

[Ausuka]

I mean maybe I'm misunderstanding again but it seems pretty clear cut to me?

[Gimli]

possibly has something to do with the threadstate at that point

I don't think klick thinks bussing in this gameday is necessarily stupid

[Klick]

^

I think people bus way more than they should but I wasn't meaning to imply that bussing would always be stupid

The main point is that if scum want to they can force today to be 'town must be nearly unanimously right'

[Ausuka]

I mean I didn't think you were saying it was always stupid, just in this gameday? Or was it something to do with the inactivity or whatever

[Klick]

It wasn't commentary on this game or this gameday in particular other than the fact we are at 6:3
There are context-dependent reasons why bussing may make more or less sense for scum in this game
But at the very least scum by numbers can force this game to be '5/6 town must agree today' and that is much more powerful than anyone really realises at one mislim before ELo

[KawaiiKame]

What is the value in not eliminating anyone today?

[Ausuka]

What is the value in not eliminating anyone today?

What is the context of this

[KawaiiKame]

What is the value in not eliminating anyone today?

What is the context of this

If we mislim today it's elo, I'm asking what's the game state if we eliminate no one today

[Comus]

Absurd.

[Ausuka]

Oh

That isn't a good idea, scum can kill and then we have to kill scum or we lose

[KawaiiKame]

Ik voting no one gives scum a free kill, I wanted to know what being down one looks like vs. being down potentially 2

[Ausuka]

Ok so rn we have

6 v 3

Kill town -> 4 v 3 tomorrow, we can still win.

If we no elim

5 v 3

Kill town -> 3v3 the next day, unless enchant makes a save.

So we have two miselims right now, and if we no elim we only have one

[Enchant]

I will not make save if i die.

[Ausuka]

k

[implosion]

Vote Count 3.7

Menalque (3): geraintm, Comus, KawaiiKame
KawaiiKame (2): Ausuka, Menalque
Skygazer (1): Enchant
Enchant (1): Skygazer

Not Voting (2): Klick, Gimli

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

Deadline is April 4 at 3:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2023-04-04 18:00:00).

okay he's literally the normal list mod

@implosion: is informed considered a modifier when stacked onto another role?

The Normal Game wiki page is generally the source of truth for things like this, so yes.

[geraintm]

I strongly disagree, but in a nice way ; )

I disagree , but in not a nice way.

[geraintm]

Have not done a game read list for a long time, think it is about time I did one

KawaiiKame - I have this slot scum leaning I think, there seems to be too much confusion over their claim to have them town leaning. But not where i most want to place my vote.Also, I don't think this player is a cunt

Menalque - said repeatedly from their votes this is the person I think is most likely to be scum, and their gameplay hasn't dissuaded me from this point of view. Also, not a cunt.

Gimli - probably most town leaning player.in the game, I just like their posts and their attempts at solving. Also, not a cunt.

Comus - this obviously aimed at all the other players in the game and not them, but either they are really really bad town or scum. The kerfuffle over their claim is baffling. I thought the claim came because they didn't like being ignored and wanted some attention, and since then sitting there refusing to elaborate when repeatedly asked is not helping town at all.

Skygazer - I am assuming their claim is true, there seems to have been some disagreement about it but as far as I can see it has been sorted. Also, not a cunt.

Enchant - this is a slot I have as town leaning. I can't imagine how scum would have played like this. I often do this to people, work out what thr advantages are if they were scum and I cannot. But people have suggested it is in their arc, so I'm town leaning but would not be surprised. Also, not a cunt.

Ausuka - believe their claim, but I am being honest there are too many posts from them and I have turned the volume down on them so they have started to wash past me. Also, not a cunt.

Klick - I have this slot as meh, going neither way. Also, not a cunt.

[Comus]

Cute.

[geraintm]

I hate it when people misspell words. They miss one out and then think there is a silent e at the end.

[Comus]

Nah, you're cute.

[Gimli]

we didn't even lose yet and y'all salty already

[geraintm]

Nah, you're cute.

Fuck off

[Comus]

I'm not : )

I'd like to hear more about gera's take on skygazer but that's neither here or there, it's his choice if he expands.