Mini Normal 2298 - Game Over!

[ballpointpen]

nsg is making themselves unreadable, which is fine but also a wagon on them is a pretty lazy thought because of the latter fact
their early pop-ins were awkward but possibly just >randscum or even null based on their description of their meta

[ballpointpen]

townish

Marquis
Firebringer
Cephrir
Save The Dragons
Elpis
Ethel
ballpointpen

Brian Skies
GuyInFreezer

bob3141/Andante
northsidegal
Not_Mafia

less townish but nothing specifically scumish i care enough about for now

I don't really have clear townreads or scumreads at this point, just people I would be slightly less and slightly more OK with voting out

All in all I think I'm not too bothered about that D1 tbh. Comfortable with a shot in the dark, pointed away from myself or anyone I'm mildly comfy with

what has elpis and ethel done that is towny
their reactions after my wagon cooled off were indifferent at best and they haven't produced much outside of swapping votes
i still don't really know whether elpis' rvs talk is >randtown or >randscum on trying to prolong the convo but also i felt like they were less integrated in the discussion than ceph and norwee
rvs reads are getting bland but being comfortable in the casual start of this game has to count for something

[ballpointpen]

nsg is making themselves unreadable, which is fine but also a wagon on them is a pretty lazy thought because of the latter fact
their early pop-ins were awkward but possibly just >randscum or even null based on their description of their meta

@andante what's so scummy about 368

[Elpis]

townish

Marquis
Firebringer
Cephrir
Save The Dragons
Elpis
Ethel
ballpointpen

Brian Skies
GuyInFreezer

bob3141/Andante
northsidegal
Not_Mafia

less townish but nothing specifically scumish i care enough about for now

I don't really have clear townreads or scumreads at this point, just people I would be slightly less and slightly more OK with voting out

All in all I think I'm not too bothered about that D1 tbh. Comfortable with a shot in the dark, pointed away from myself or anyone I'm mildly comfy with

what has elpis and ethel done that is towny
their reactions after my wagon cooled off were indifferent at best and they haven't produced much outside of swapping votes
i still don't really know whether elpis' rvs talk is >randtown or >randscum on trying to prolong the convo but also i felt like they were less integrated in the discussion than ceph and norwee
rvs reads are getting bland but being comfortable in the casual start of this game has to count for something

If trying to inquire about someone with a lot of suspicion thrown on them about why they're acting the way they are, on an otherwise dead for multiple hours day, when I could instead choose to keep being inactive and not contribute at all isn't town activity, then I truly don't know what you expect from me

Also my rvs talk was about having fun because others seemed to be and it was a pleasant change of pace from how weirdly tense my first game was

[Firebringer]

reads-
marquis, brian skies, norwee
elpis
ballpointpen
andante, cephrir, ethel, StD, GIF
Not_Mafia
NSG

[Cephrir]

you forgot to put firebringer at the bottom

[Firebringer]

confirmed scum gets its own special list

[Cephrir]

i currently would genuinely like to eliminate nsg if her play doesn't change

[Firebringer]

where is ur hubby at.
go poke him in rl but don't tell him why.

he will find out once he read this post

[Elpis]

i currently would genuinely like to eliminate nsg if her play doesn't change

I feel similarly

[northsidegal]

NSG, do you have any particular reason why you're so upset with this game? I don't want to vote you just based on attitude alone, but do you feel like you'll be able to assist in scumhunting? Your actions seem too genuinely hostile to be just straight scum, so I really would like more input on what's going on there.

i don't think it's worth continuing to talk about.

i currently would genuinely like to eliminate nsg if her play doesn't change

do you actually believe that i'm scum, or is this some kind of policy thing?

[Cephrir]

i think that you are mafia because you are not doing anything

[northsidegal]

without reading too much, something from northsidegal stood out to me as scummy (post 368) I looked at the iso, and like, they really feel like scum to me

i already told you my ideal version of this game, we quickhammer ballpoint and i die overnight

?

this, in isolation, stood out to you as notably scummy? could you explain that?

[Cephrir]

NSG, do you have any particular reason why you're so upset with this game? I don't want to vote you just based on attitude alone, but do you feel like you'll be able to assist in scumhunting? Your actions seem too genuinely hostile to be just straight scum, so I really would like more input on what's going on there.

i don't think it's worth continuing to talk about.

i'll just scumread you for it then i guess???????

[northsidegal]

do you think that my reasons for being upset with firebringer are alignment indicative?

[Cephrir]

i think your reasons for hating this game are alignment indicative

[Cephrir]

why play with firebringer if you hate him so much idgi

[northsidegal]

i think that you are mafia because you are not doing anything

NSG, do you have any particular reason why you're so upset with this game? I don't want to vote you just based on attitude alone, but do you feel like you'll be able to assist in scumhunting? Your actions seem too genuinely hostile to be just straight scum, so I really would like more input on what's going on there.

i don't think it's worth continuing to talk about.

i'll just scumread you for it then i guess???????

also, although i feel kind of awkward about saying something like this immediately upon entering the thread, it really feels like the way you're talking you're looking for reasons to not scumread me. is that the case? these comments are outside my expectations for how someone would interact with someone they supposedly think is playing deeply within their scum meta

[northsidegal]

i think your reasons for hating this game are alignment indicative

what do you base this conclusion on?

[Cephrir]

i think that you are mafia because you are not doing anything

NSG, do you have any particular reason why you're so upset with this game? I don't want to vote you just based on attitude alone, but do you feel like you'll be able to assist in scumhunting? Your actions seem too genuinely hostile to be just straight scum, so I really would like more input on what's going on there.

i don't think it's worth continuing to talk about.

i'll just scumread you for it then i guess???????

also, although i feel kind of awkward about saying something like this immediately upon entering the thread, it really feels like the way you're talking you're looking for reasons to not scumread me. is that the case? these comments are outside my expectations for how someone would interact with someone they supposedly think is playing deeply within their scum meta

i would enjoy playing with a town version of you because it's been a long time since i've seen it if ever and i once played with a scum version of you and found the experience dull and disappointing

i'm also just confused by the unwarranted vitriol i didn't think you were a rude person

[northsidegal]

have i been rude this game? i wouldn't classify myself as that. if i have, then i apologize.

[Cephrir]

i think your reasons for hating this game are alignment indicative

what do you base this conclusion on?

see above - based on previous experience seeming to indicate you prefer to not play at all if given a scum PM which is more or less what you are currently doing

[Cephrir]

is it really so strange that i would see you having a bad time for no clear reason and go "hmm, i wonder why that is"

[northsidegal]

i think your reasons for hating this game are alignment indicative

what do you base this conclusion on?

see above - based on previous experience seeming to indicate you prefer to not play at all if given a scum PM which is more or less what you are currently doing

sure, but that's not an expectation about my emotional state, that's an expectation about my behavior insofar as it relates to motivation, activity and analysis. i think that you're conflating the two, when personality / emotion based meta reads aren't the same as content based ones (i've always argued they're stronger). to do a rare bit of self meta, i don't think you would find me

saying

that i hate a game when i roll scum (at least outside of the scum PT), you would just see me

doing it

. does that make sense?

i would enjoy playing with a town version of you because it's been a long time since i've seen it if ever and i once played with a scum version of you and found the experience dull and disappointing

i'm also just confused by the unwarranted vitriol i didn't think you were a rude person

i disappoint people all the time. i disappoint myself (and probably everyone around me) with every game i join probably for the last two years. you should update your expectation of my town play accordingly.

[northsidegal]

is it really so strange that i would see you having a bad time for no clear reason and go "hmm, i wonder why that is"

i don't think that it's strange. what i'm saying is that i think that both your premises (no clear reason) and your conclusion (it's based on my alignment rather than other factors) are wrong.