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[Save The Dragons]

i dunno i feel like andante's push on ethel could be scummy

[Firebringer]

ive played with scum andante pretty recently as her teammate. and i don't think ur assessment is right.

Also i think bob was kind of scummy? Not enough for me to go andante scum or anything cause i just went back to null with the replace but the whole dynamic of wagon on ballpoint and bob posting was very much air posting with lots of words.

[Firebringer]

Do people really expect me to town lead this day?
I feel like this is a recipe for disaster.
Can't yall just not leave it to me. I am not that good lol

[Gimli]

yes I'll sheep you on andante even

maybe that push was scummy actually

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the push from Andante to Ethel seemed very anglefishy and nonsensical. Like something scum would do in a slow game to be like "look, i got a scumread guys! Look how town and solvy i am!" and emphasizing how sure of an scumread it is by adding that they will "never unvote"...
Just kinda bad and i feel like i should add Andante to my PoE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Was gonna make a reads list but my reads are too messy and there are couple slots i just dunno where to place yet.

(This keyboard in my work environment is so bad... One of the most loud, annoying, and clickety mechanical keyboards i've ever used. It's like i'm physically tired just from writing a sentence on it... Let alone multiple here on MS...)

[Brian Skies]

I will not stand in the way of an Andante elimination.

[Cephrir]

i feel like this game has a massive problem.
And the big huge red flag is im like a universal townread.

The fuck is with that shit

im not there yet if that helps

[northsidegal]

I can maybe see that her questioning ceph and norwee as her trying to sort them but I feel like this is just being extremely charitable to do that when it also just feels like at end of day telling them both “hey ur wrong stop being wrong” and not meant for purpose of actually sorting them.

i don't see how you can see my interactions with norwee as that. despite the fact that i probably don't agree with a single thing he said in his series of posts there, what i did was ask him questions to try to understand what he was actually thinking or trying to say. is that just saying "stop being wrong"?

i feel as though even what i'm saying right now someone could paint as me saying to you "stop being wrong", but again without trying to further any language of annoyance or umbrage (mission already thouroughly failed), i just want to ask you something. "should" would be maybe too leading of a word, but what is your

expectation

for what i do when someone says something that i disagree with? in the scenario where i think that someone is saying something wrong

directly to me

, am i just "supposed to" not say anything?

idk, "we quickhammer X" strikes me as scummy.

is that so?

like all the words with ceph, those were just whatever,

not really related to this game in any way

, like, if "all those words" were related to reads this game, sure whatever, but you're just declaring nsg town for this reason that doesn't make sense to actually tr anyone for.

i think that this is pretty patently false. in fact, i would argue that the only things i said that

weren't

directly related in one way or another to someone's alignment was me asking ceph if he really felt as though i'd been rude this game.

[Firebringer]

im gonna be annoying here and not answer ur question.

I just want to understand, do you not want to engage with me or do you? cause im willing to give you more space if you need it
do you not want to talk about yourself? cause ur only engaging in things to talk about yourself.

the reason im not answering your question btw is i don't think ur trying to sort me with this question u just asked. I think ur trying to get me to rethink my read on you. Like when i think of potential responses for this question none of them to me tell u my alignment. What part of what i said about you there is confusing or telling. If i said "i expect you to do the same here that you did actually" would u go AHA I got you. If I said "i think you would focus on why you disagree instead of roundabout questioning that looks like just telling people ur wrong". Would that give u a read.

If ur not trying to get a reado n me with that question and im overanalyzing it. Let me know

[Cephrir]

im townreading firebringer now

[Marquis]

I think Andante's push on Ethel comes from town
UNVOTE:

Will read more later

[Marquis]

I played with scum andante and she was quite reactionary like she is being here but I feel like here she replaced into a not-scummy-slot and her posting hasn't been awkward and rn the strength of how much she believes in herself seems like things andante might have trouble replicating as mafia

I also could just not know anything about Andante as a player meta wise

But like from my perspective it felt town. The whole misrep thing about Andante choosing only to read as far as "I don't think bob's slot was particularly scummy" and cutting off right before "but neither towny" feels bad but like it would more likely come from a town perspective


I'm also very down to vote Alisae/Not_Mafia slot today.

[Elpis]

I feel like shifting my vote to Not_Mafia to generate some pressure so they talk more would be good

VOTE: Not_Mafia

As for the rest of what's going on...last time I played with Andante they came in swinging hard and being heavily defensive like they are now, and that time they were not just a town, but a power role. This reminds me a lot of that currently, so I am inclined to think that Andante is town, at least for the moment.

The whole exchange between NSG and Cephrir just kind of felt like Cephrir getting frustrated at his somewhat forced upon him reads of NSG being required to be expressed in order to get more information, as well as frustration over the fact that we still really don't understand WHY she's frustrated into not being involved in the first place. However, I did like her latest post a bit more, and I hope she draws more into hunting. I think I read Cephrir as town for the moment, but I still null-scumread NSG, as I just can't truly fully grasp what's going on there.

For a full readlist so far:

Town
Cephrir
Marquis
Fire
Ethel
Norwe
StD
Gimli
NM
Andante
Brian
BPP
NSG


Scum

[Brian Skies]

I'm offended that you have me below NM.

[Brian Skies]

For a full readlist so far:

NM
Andante
Brian
BPP
NSG


Scum

You think every wagon has been on scum?

[northsidegal]

^ very towny post

will respond to other stuff later

[Not_Mafia]

I be waiting to quickhammer don't you know me at all?

[Not_Mafia]

Sorry N_M not enough space for u

[Marquis]

VOTE: not_mafia
i nap now

[Gimli]

StD doesn't obvtown. He is more like silent town with eventually decent good takes on day 2 and onwards that goes unappreciated

so true

I have stronger tr on firebringer by the time of this post

norwee can prob be town too

I think nsg is a townie? seems self aware in a way that's too incredible to come from scum.

[Gimli]

NSG is town actually, she wouldn't play this angle as scum

[Gimli]

VOTE: bob

why the fuck was nobody but fire concerned about the fact that we basically quickhammered 2 days into the game
and why was bob more concerned about my alignment rather than the quickhammer itself

this post is very scummy

[Gimli]

andante wagon is 100% crap

[Gimli]

im probably tentatively townreading std