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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:36 pm

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Spoiler:


vote count 1.d !


NJAC (5):
Flavor Leaf, GuyInFreezer, Greeting, Skygazer, Andante
Hu Tao (4):
KawaiiKame, Save The Dragons, Bub Bidderskins, ballpointpen
Andante (4):
curiouskarmadog, Kowahbunga, Enchant, Hu Tao
Enchant (2):
KittyTacky, Cephrir
Greeting (1):
NJAC


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MalcolmTucker


with 17 alive, it takes 9 to put someone in the machine. day 1 currently doesnt have a deadline

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  • prodding ballpointpen. replacing francisco lindor. eduardo escobar replaces francisco lindor.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:40 pm

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also going to

UNVOTE

for now.

reading this gist, makes me think Bub is scum, but not sure if that is my read or just a defensive reaction to him being on my wagon.

Ill vote tomorrow. and provide my current SRs.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:23 pm

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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:39 pm

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In post 851, NJAC wrote:
In post 848, Cephrir wrote: Flavor Leaf scumreading me should be taken as a towntell
Why? Care to explain?
we have not gotten along in any game ever, to my knowledge
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:40 pm

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In post 859, Andante wrote: him and i have been active, more active than anyone else. he's my partner till the end of time
if this is a pocket it's a good one i'm such a sap
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:46 pm

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still don't feel good about any of these wagons =_=
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:48 pm

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In post 879, Cephrir wrote:
In post 851, NJAC wrote:
In post 848, Cephrir wrote: Flavor Leaf scumreading me should be taken as a towntell
Why? Care to explain?
we have not gotten along in any game ever, to my knowledge
So what?

I also haven't gotten along in any game ever with you.

I'm also scumreading you.

Does that make me town too?
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:50 pm

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my point is that he is not great at reading me

you're 0 for 1 but that's not a huge track record
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:51 pm

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towntell referred to for myself, it was tongue in cheek
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:55 pm

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That's really dumb.

VOTE: Cephrir
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:57 pm

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Hello

Going to;
UNVOTE:

For now since idk where my vote is, gonna try my best to read up and catch up. Haven't played in years so I'll try to restart the gears but I do recognize the odd name here.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:03 pm

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In post 885, NJAC wrote: That's really dumb.

VOTE: Cephrir
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 881, Cephrir wrote: still don't feel good about any of these wagons =_=
What's a wagon you would feel good about, and is it really Enchant?
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:33 pm

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i'm off work the next three days, will catch up from my last post tomorrow
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:34 pm

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I've read from page 20 onwards because I didn't feel like reading the full 36 pages, if someone has something important that happened prior to that feel free to let me know.

Lurking seems to have been a topic during my read; when I last played I never liked going for lurkers exclusively, the meta back then was neutral on lurkers usually and I was never a fan of eliminating them just purely based on the fact that they were lurking. As a kneejerk rule of thumb I am suspicious of people that ride lurkers hard and scumread them mainly due to inactivity, meta back then had lots of good players who posted little and gunning for lurkers felt like a net scum tactic, but maybe the meta has actually evolved...?

From my read i;

lean town;
ballpointpen (posts on page 20 read town to me. I wrote this down first and started expanding on other players as I read on and I lost my train of thought and im now tired but for now from what i've seen i have no reason to not at least lean town here for now)

GuyinFreezer (I like the straightforward thinking in most of their posts. #498 and #502 feel like kneejerk comments by town.
Flavor Leaf (I like the posts on page 22, thought process and drop of thoughts on a lot of different players feels like a townie going through the motions. They also echo some of my gut reads like lean town on GIF and not liking Adante's push. Gets lost in the sauce on page 6 by talking a lot about chainsaws and hatchets but otherwise seems genuine in their posting.)

kowahbunga (#636 gives me a decent town ping, i like the logic of wanting to move the day along but specifically by getting more info. the timing of this post makes sense to me.)

Malcolmtucker (string of posts on page 27 give me good town vibes, i vibe with their reasoning behind how they make reads and the reasoning feels very genuine, seems honest while providing solid context and content. disagree with the scumread on bpp since I don't think bbp has acted particularly scummy, his scumreading of malcolm read fine to me and i don't think bpp had much to gain from sticking out from the pack and scumreading malcolm a bit, malcolms reaction feels like a town being defensive overall imo.)

Enchant (Glitch had no posts in the pages i read but #745 is hilarious and thats all yall will get out of me for now for this townlean)

Kittytacky (general vibe seems to be town for me tbh, that's all I got atm I'm just trying to finish reading at this point)

neutral;

save dragons (tbh I can't get a read on this player for now, posting is a bit sporadic and hard for me to just get a read on atm)

Adante (#510 to #515 is very scatterbrained and I don't fully buy the logic behind reading Hu Tao as scum for their interactions with Glitch, but i can't pin this behavior to either town or scum tbh. the subsequent hounding of players for thoughts on Hu Tao I also read as both as town following a tunnel read or scum getting easy engagement. #573 and #574 don't sit well with me either, former is an oversight since Flavor did give some thoughts on Hao, that alone is null but latter post feels suspiciously defensive. outburst on page 24 feels a bit more townie though, i see town pushing for activity more in this scenario. subsequent tunneling and justification being based on hao being inactive is then less attractive to me. the logic of activity = town and lurking = scum is really double downed on later on and idk what to make of it tbh. this is a read i'd lean scum if i received some convincing but tbh this could just be town with some goofy logic i dont jive with)

NJAC (finally started posting a bit on page 32, officially neutral but they seem to keep claiming they are catching up while showing no effort to contribute until page 33 or so and the posts there are all over the place.)

lean scum;
bud bidderskins (#494 and #496 rubbed me the wrong way, accepting that you consider someone as scummy while trying to distance yourself from their wagon feels like either scum trying to distance themselves or get free "caution" points. #604 is also a post, the overly cautious approach again reads like scum looking for brownie points, while also looking for a new wagon to sponsor. #657 doesn't feel like a genuine town reaction either, don't know what town gains from showing such repetitive exasperation over glitch being wagoned. #848 is a post I like though for what its worth)

Hu Tao (not a fan of the spamposting on page 25, claims isnt lurking cause they have 9th most posts and then late says the same thing but with 5th most points probably because they made like 15 posts on 1 page. posts at the bottom of page 27 are also kind of sus, they don't really add anything to the convo and read like flippant scum. posts top of page 32 really ping my scumdar too, just don't like the mix of defeated voting for NJAC and being jokingly dismissive of dragons post)

cephrir (#602 rubbed me the wrong way, maybe because i don't buy Adante's tunneling on Hao, but this is also just a kneejerk gutread. could be a nonchalant townie looking to get some traction but this reads more like scum trying to smoothly hop on a wagon after another player has filled the half of 2 pages with tunnel reads. lots of posts after this in future pages feel like noncontributive and fluffy. behaviour on page 29 also doesn't sit well with me, just kind of reminds of scum back in the day who mostly just posted casual fluff. #757 and #759 however read kind of town to me, the random slapdown on Flavor feels both accurate and town motivated for the most part)

greeting (don't like the NJAC in #668, logic feels contradictory and this boils down to my old meta of not killing lurkers just for being lurkers, greeting pushing this while acknowledging the cons just reads so weird to me.

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idk who i missed in my reads list, tbh i'm just tired. I kind of skimmed the last few pages just so I could say I am "caught up"

I'm most open to voting cephrir or hu tao tbh, both just ping my gut as scum the most consistently.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:44 pm

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In post 888, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 881, Cephrir wrote: still don't feel good about any of these wagons =_=
What's a wagon you would feel good about, and is it really Enchant?
It's my best guess right now but no, not really

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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:49 pm

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If you want I can invent some fake reads to prove to you that I'd be perfectly capable of doing so if I were scum

I have slow starts sometimes
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:09 pm

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@Venmar:

You are right about your reads on Cephrir and Greeting. Those are scum.

You are in my townbloc now.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:12 pm

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It must be so nice to see the world in black and white
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:14 pm

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I think NJAC is town unfortunately

VOTE: Hu Tao, I guess

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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:13 pm

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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:17 pm

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No really lol it's something in mod post
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:11 am

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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:16 am

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In post 830, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 829, Hu Tao wrote: My intuition is telling me NJAC is a bad vote out today.

VOTE: Andante

Let's see what dreams are made of
eh, it's your or NJAC. Not interested in starting any other wagon, at least for me. if NJAC aint happening, imma just vote Hu Tao.
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:17 am

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In post 837, NJAC wrote:
In post 712, Hu Tao wrote: How many scum are usually in these large games? 4?
That info is in the OP. Did you read it?
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