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Post Post #3675 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:04 am

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you literally docced him last night, what gives?
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Post Post #3676 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:05 am

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In post 3674, Enchant wrote: Why mena not scum?
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Post Post #3677 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:05 am

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Guess what?
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Post Post #3678 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:05 am

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Post Post #3679 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:05 am

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Monkey bump
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Post Post #3680 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:06 am

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This is a setup I feel works and passes review:

Spoiler:

Town


Modified Shield Doctor
Simple Watcher
2-Shot Hider
Loud Visionary
Compulsive visitor
VT
VT
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VT

Scum


Informed [???]
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I am a

Spoiler:


Simple Watcher

Night 1:
Menalque: No one visited your target

Night 2:
Gimli: No one visited your target

Night 3:
Sweet release

If I played my role like a normal watcher I could have caught two Night Kills. I fucked up.

Night 1
I ended up overthinking things and ended up thinking: Either magical Girl is fakeclaiming and scum don't target her or she's bodyguard and I won't catch scum. In the end, hours before deadline, I chose menalque. Menalque read like town to me at the end, and Magical Girl, I did in no way trust Kokichi or Ausuka. I think I figured Gimli might be VT but was sure scum wouldn't kill there, considering the chaos between Ausuka and Gimli and Comus and Gimli. Scum won't kill a chaos factor(Why I'm still alive :twisted: )

Night 2
I straight fucked up, fully believed Kokichi was vig. Little thought on this action, sumbitted within a Day. Gimli claimed VT, I trusted him for town, felt it was my only shot to get a result and not a failed action with any surety. Again, if I acted like a normal watcher, we would have had a guilty Day 3



RE: Enchant:

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Day 1: Klick claims. Magical Girl says 'Klick's role can mean something spesific, I'll expand tommorow' I locktowned Klick Day 1 for their claim. I figured Magical Girl knew there's a tracker or watcher by end D1.

Night 1: Magical Girl Dies

Day 2: Enchant immediately claims Magical Girl was his vig kill. Here I believed Enchant was a goon, and trying to confuse a tracker or watcher. Now I believe Enchant was trying to draw out the real(non-existent) vig so he doesn't die healing them... dodgy town play maybe but yeah.

Day 2: Comus calls Enchant a Goon who killed Magical Girl. Both Gimli and Elsa ask Comus if He is a tracker. Comus denies this. I thought at the time that either Gimli or Elsa might be aligned with Enchant and knew he was a goon. I also thought Kokichi/Ausuka were acting weird when I sussed Enchant, in part prompting my Kokichi/Ausuka/Enchant read when all three sussed Elsa claim.



Proposed Optimal Night Actions


Enchant: Heals self
Comus: Watches Gimli
Ausuka: Visits Gimli
Klick: Visits Gimli
KawaiiKame: Activates final shot

Explanation:


Menalque flip has to happen today. Sky and geraintm remain alive.
Enchant heals self, so scum cannot target them.
Comus watches Gimli, so scum cannot target him.
Kawaii activates, hides behind scum, scum cannot target them.
Klick is fully confirmed(I had them as confirmed Compulsive Visitor from Day 1 due to my role)

The thinking is simple. Scum suddenly has a very narrow choice of Night Kills: Comus, Ausuka, or Klick. We all know Ausuka and Klick are getting pocketed by both mena and sky, sky and geraintm remain in the PT tonight. Who do they kill? They have to kill Comus. Killing Klick loses an ally. Killing Ausuka loses an ally. Can't kill Enchant. Can't Kill Kawaii. Targeting Gimli gets a guilty on one of them.

If scum doesn't kill Comus then Comus lives and due to Ausuka's check on Gimli Comus is confirmed as Invest.

COMUS HAS TO DIE

Problems:


Skygazer can be a roleblocker and blocks either Comus or Enchant(They think Enchant is limmable maybe, Gimli is sussing Enchant after all, so might not be Enchant. Comus block, Gimli kill) I think Ausuka block is less optimal, only way that works is if they kill Klick and use the Ausuka block so Comus can't be confirmed as Invest.

Kawaii is AWOL: Doesn't activate last shot, can be targeted. Do scum remove such a ripe target for mis-elim though? I doubt it.

Enchant is scum: (I highly doubt) In this case just do what Gimli said and let enchant heal gimli. Enchant confirmed next die if not dead, if Ausuka not blocked(Or enchant blocked)


Solution:


Kill menalque, then kill geraintm and Skygazer.

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It has been fun. I'm done. Have fun figuring things out and arguing and shouting and so on. Enjoy. Good luck.

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Post Post #3681 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:06 am

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In post 3675, Gimli wrote: you literally docced him last night, what gives?
Menal didn't perform kill last night.
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Post Post #3682 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:06 am

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Comus, roles can't selftarget.
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Post Post #3683 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:06 am

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Post Post #3684 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:07 am

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In post 3682, Enchant wrote: Comus, roles can't selftarget.
Heal Gimli
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Post Post #3685 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:07 am

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No.
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Post Post #3686 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:08 am

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Post Post #3687 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:09 am

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In post 3685, Enchant wrote: No.
Pfffffffftttttttttttttt whatever I'm doooooooooooneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee with ya'll
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Post Post #3688 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:10 am

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In post 3687, Comus wrote:
In post 3685, Enchant wrote: No.
Pfffffffftttttttttttttt whatever I'm doooooooooooneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee with ya'll
Give me atleast one reason to heal Gimli.
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Post Post #3689 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:11 am

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In post 3688, Enchant wrote:
In post 3687, Comus wrote:
In post 3685, Enchant wrote: No.
Pfffffffftttttttttttttt whatever I'm doooooooooooneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee with ya'll
Give me atleast one reason to heal Gimli.
No, clown
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Post Post #3690 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:11 am

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Post Post #3691 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:12 am

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In post 3689, Comus wrote:
In post 3688, Enchant wrote:
In post 3687, Comus wrote:
In post 3685, Enchant wrote: No.
Pfffffffftttttttttttttt whatever I'm doooooooooooneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee with ya'll
Give me atleast one reason to heal Gimli.
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Who the fuck you called clown, clown
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Post Post #3692 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:18 am

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what does simple modifier do?
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Post Post #3693 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:20 am

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Only succeeds if it targets a non-PR
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Post Post #3694 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:22 am

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well I have to get going

klick tell me where to place my vote. if you all decide on mena I guess that's fine
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Post Post #3695 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:22 am

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Comus' role has poor synergy with Enchant's role
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Post Post #3696 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:22 am

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Why you sheep Klick
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Post Post #3697 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:23 am

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enchant's role has poor synergy with the entirety of the setup imo
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Post Post #3698 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:23 am

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If you literally have to go right now drop a vote on Enchant

Mena can still go through without your vote there. Your vote needs to enable another potential option
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Post Post #3699 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:26 am

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of course, I knew you'd say that

VOTE: enchant

at the end of the day I'm just buying the 'information overloaddddd' as an informed detective crumb

and yeah her play was suboptimal i guess

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