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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:09 am

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Does this also mean you agree with Wall-E that HP is scummy and "is a good choice" for a vote?


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popsofctown (3): doc, budja, peter?
doc (2): seraphim, zazier
hp [leaves] (1): wall-e
peter? (1): popsofctown

not voting: everyone else

note - the person who is in line to be lynched will always be at the top, and the rest will be in descending order.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:12 am

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Understanding his stance doesn't mean I share it.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:35 am

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Doc wrote:(I'm a Korts alt, for reference)
;) <3 Korts :D
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:41 am

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Doc wrote:Understanding his stance doesn't mean I share it.
Mkay.

Anything else interesting going on, guys and gals? :p
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:31 am

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Blueheaven wrote:i also agree that hp's post are rather town than baddie. hp has played a fair amount of games. If he is baddie, i feel he would be more cautious and ask the mod through pm. If he was a newbie, i would be more suspicious of him.
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He's a very sweet manly guy, who doesn't know how to handle girls ;). He also use some gambles sometimes, which in some games work, but not in all of them :D.
For more information see GTKAS Korts
You can also check his wiki, he even mentions Doc. Perhaps scumbuddies :D?
I hope this has helped you a bit ;).
Doc wrote:Soo, first page of first game as an alt, and already I'm busted...
Weak :D. I expected more from you.
Doc wrote:So, like that Korts guy said, hp actually deserves slight pro-town points for that. Scum don't have any particular motivation to ask that question or at all any question relating MO's.
Agreeing with yourself to make your attack seem stronger. Perhaps I should change that 'manly' part ;).
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Doc wrote:I'm a Korts alt, for reference
Busted ;)
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:51 am

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May i know why the FOS? Do you disagree with what i said?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:05 am

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Let's see. You said something and I gave you a FoS for that. It seems likely that I don't agree with you :roll:
How do you know what hp thinks? Perhaps he wanted to give a good townie impression by asking this. And you describe what you would do as scum. That doesn't mean hp will do the same if he was scum. I don't like this reasoning of yours.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:23 am

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Zazie wrote:who doesn't know how to handle girls
I digress. What did you devulge this from?

Also, I'm a bit scared. Stalking that poor Korts guy so thoroughly... ;)

Your FoS on BH is more than weak. I agree that assuming what hp-scum would do is useless as a scumhunting technique, but basically BH did the same as me, he looked at the motivations for that question.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:25 am

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Oh yeah, and since BH did almost the same thing as me, and you haven't FoSed me, you deserve this:

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I don't understand why you set a double standard where I'm not scummy for doing something that BH is scummy for.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:45 am

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Uhm, Doc? You know that I'm voting you, right? I don't see the use of FoSing someone while I'm voting that same player.

Also, regarding the quote you digress, see ';)' at the end of that part.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:54 am

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ZazieR, the newbie game i read, you did great. You replaced in, and then got NKed for being such a good townie.

Anyway, i'm so totally confused with this alt+ asking the mod a question + oooh it's baaaaad to ask the mod a question stuff. Could someone explain what's going on to me in a lil recap post?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:02 am

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The problem I had with that game was that I was only paying attention to one player. I was way too focused on that player that the last scum just could fly under the radar. That's why I didn't like that game. Luckily, I changed that about me to prevent this in other games. But in my next newbie game, I was attacked for keeping the pool of suspects as big as possible :D.
But thanks for the compliment. Also, you should know that I'm reading one of your NG as well, so you can expect some comments from me after that game has ended ;). Perhaps, I'm stalking more players than only Korts :twisted:

The point is that hp asked a question about the killings. As we have multiple killing factions, it could be that when the dead bodies are found, that they are killed differently. For example:
Pops body was found torn in pieces, while Zazie had a bullet through her chest.

Then the others know that Pops was killed by the Wolfes, while Zazie was killed by the mafia. From that, they can get information.
So hp asked if this was the case. According to some players, this earns him some townie points. As shown, BH said that he thinks that if hp is scum, that he wouldn't ask this question in the game, but he would have PM'ed the mod about it.
To me, that's false logic. That's why I'm attacking him for it.

I hope this has helped you a bit.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:04 am

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Zazie, do you think
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:05 am

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Dammit! Log out, log in, shouldn't be that hard...
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:13 am

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Which one? The logic Korts has used or the one of Doc :D?
Doc wrote:So, like that Korts guy said, hp actually deserves slight pro-town points for that. Scum don't have any particular motivation to ask that question or at all any question relating MO's.
'Scum won't ask questions like this as it draws attention upon them.'
'However, they think this as well and therefor ask it.'
'But by thinking this, they won't.'
'I don't agree as...'

And continue as long as you want to.
Your argument why you say he deserves slight pro-town point is a circular argument and is in fact a fallacy. Does this answer your question?

Besides, keep this in mind:
ThAdmiral wrote:note mafia, werewolves and masons can talk during day
They can easily make plans to use during the day and can give eachother hints and tips. I'm sure that that Korts guy would use this to his advantages. But others would probably do that as well.

Are you having alt problems, Korts?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:17 am

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Doc wrote:Dammit! Log out, log in, shouldn't be that hard...
*facepalm*
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:29 am

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Zazie wrote:'Scum won't ask questions like this as it draws attention upon them.'
'However, they think this as well and therefor ask it.'
'But by thinking this, they won't.'
'I don't agree as...'

And continue as long as you want to.
Your argument why you say he deserves slight pro-town point is a circular argument and is in fact a fallacy. Does this answer your question?
I know that technically I presented circular logic. But consider this: it would be extremely malicious to intentionally generate such a WIFOM-argument with a question to the mod. I certainly don't consider hp, after a quick scan of his posts, to be such speculating brass turd, therefore I don't see why hp-scum would go into a speculation of whether such a question would make him look pro-town or not, especially when the question itself doesn't immediately jump out as an inherently pro-town action.

Note: being an alt won't be a problem, hopefully. I've got the hang of it now.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:33 am

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unvote
vote: Soveliss


Let's even out the activity.

Soveliss what thinks you of Doc? Do you think we should lynch him just for being such faily-town that he can't keep his identities straight?
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:36 am

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Forgetting to log out and log in doesn't reflect on scumhunting in any way. If you think otherwise, please elaborate.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:41 am

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That could be the case, however as the Wolfes and the mafia can talk during the day, there could be someone helping hp. Normally, it would be suspicious if someone defends another player. However, as they can talk during the day, they don't need to defend eachother in the game as they can do it outside.
I don't know most of the players in this game so those two combined will make this game a tough challenge.

But I may still call you Korts, right?

Also, pops why Soveliss?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:48 am

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You can call me whatever you want ;)
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:53 am

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Then I'll make a list ;). You may pick the one you like the most :D. But remember, I'll call you and that guy Korts with that name in every game, so you are warned :twisted:
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:56 am

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i haven't seen Soveliss post any. I think other people haven't posted but my arbitrary-compass is pointing to Soveliss.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:49 am

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Alright well pops to answer your question I think it is completely irrelevant whether Doc remembers to login or not to the right user.

As far as HP's question about the killings. It doesn't mark him more town. If anything it makes him more scummy. As town it is our task to lynch those that are killing so it makes no difference if its a mafia kill or wolf kill. A kill is a kill.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:08 am

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Soveliss wrote:As town it is our task to lynch those that are killing so it makes no difference if its a mafia kill or wolf kill. A kill is a kill.
What does this have to do with hp's question?
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