Mini 2297 | Conception | Postgame

[KawaiiKame]

I'm back, going to IS0 ID

[Hell Froze Over]

Hi Dragon, welcome back

Cmon Dragon entertain me with claim.

~b

[IceDragon70]

Hmm. To be honest I was baiting to see who would agree with my stance or not, thus why I kept mentioning it as a possibility throughout the day. As mentioned Benediction would probably jump onto something like that as a chance to be town... so after reading through again (Unfortunately not everyone has commented on it, was hoping a bit more time would offer that but nope.)

Enchant I admittedly wasn't going to get much information on from this play given they were the person I pressured to do this. They handled it well enough though.
ActionDan also responded well to it, asking the mod directly.
furtiveglance made a fairly small post about it, but didn't entertain the possibility either.
Feysal admitted it was a point of understandable confusion but was on the side of it being both malign. (Though I like Feysal more then furtiveglance for town, despite the ordering I put here.)
The Keeper... I'll admit I'm not sure about their response, but I think they were saying they expected Benediction to be scum
IceDragon actually entertained the idea of Benediction being able to be benign

Hugir I'm not sure about, 124 might have been a typo of next instead of never, the sentence makes a lot more sense the second way. None of their other posts clarified their view of this.

I don't have any information from my play on other players as they didn't respond directly to it, nor have they posted much for other reasons as well.

No one else really commented about it... But I'll say that IceDragon also seemed to be trying to get town read by me earlier, and several other previously stated less then towny posts.
UNVOTE: Enchant
VOTE: IceDragon

Okay so it's this post that convinced Rauther was scum.
I know it sounds like OMGUS but I actually didn't even get to the vote when I saw they were Scum.
It's the fact that that instead of talking about reads or scum hunting, or doing anything that could progress thw game, they are just making a list of all the reactions to their "bait". And basically misrepreanting what other players said regardong benediction to fit the narrative that they are analysing and solving the game when they are clearly not. Like how does asking the mod about Benediction = townread??? Or else, how is it a "good response"?

They are also scummy for the fact that they are calling mechanical discussion a bait. That's just a lie.
And it is just IIoA, you know? "IceDragon entertained the idea of Benediction being benign". Cool? And...?

VOTE: Rauther

[IceDragon70]

Hi Dragon, welcome back

Cmon Dragon entertain me with claim.

~b

Hi Bianco, am I at E-1?

[Hell Froze Over]

Day 1 Count IV

IceDragon70 (

E-1

) - ActionDan, Rautherdir, Abnegation, furtiveglance, Feysal,

Hell Froze Over

Rautherdir (1) - Enchant
Hugir (1) - The Keeper

Not Voting

- IceDragon70, BlueSnakelet, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Hugir, KawaiiKame

Notes

• With 13 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if any mistakes exist or questions missed.
  
• I am V/LA until Good Friday.
  
• Replacing Kawaii and Goldfish.
  
• Hell Froze Over is a disciple of
  Invocation

  .

Day 1

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-07 17:55:00)

yep

[IceDragon70]

About Ice I have a soft heart so I do like that he's taking responsibility for his sins at the least but the original awkwardness will just always linger for me. Things can always change though.

Appreciate it

[IceDragon70]

Day 1 Count IV

IceDragon70 (

E-1

) - ActionDan, Rautherdir, Abnegation, furtiveglance, Feysal,

Hell Froze Over

Rautherdir (1) - Enchant
Hugir (1) - The Keeper

Not Voting

- IceDragon70, BlueSnakelet, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Hugir, KawaiiKame

Notes

• With 13 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if any mistakes exist or questions missed.
  
• I am V/LA until Good Friday.
  
• Replacing Kawaii and Goldfish.
  
• Hell Froze Over is a disciple of
  Invocation

  .

Day 1

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-07 17:55:00)

yep

And is there intent to hamma?

[biancospino]

Fine.
VOTE: Dragon, E-1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

There's Enchant...
~b

[Hell Froze Over]

Fine.
VOTE: Dragon, E-1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

There's Enchant...
~b

[IceDragon70]

Cmon Dragon entertain me with claim.

Okay
All caught up now.
I am Ambition.
I don't really understand the relationahip between flavor and mechanics, because I basically prevent a player of my choice from being roleblocked. Which is just weird.

That was also why I speculated about scum having a roleblock and said I weren't surprised by Rautherdir's claim.

[IceDragon70]

Fine.
VOTE: Dragon, E-1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

There's Enchant...
~b

You're almost better than I am at altslipping

[IceDragon70]

I love court proceedings!
What alignment are you?

Malediction, obviously. What else would prosecution be?

Anyway, enough joking, I see an off ramp out of RVS. What is this, we have an innocent child already?

I agree it's time to get off RVS, but how does saying "we have an innocent child already?" do that?
VOTE: Feysal

I also suspect that Enchant's greenscum claim makes them have >rand chance of being redscum, so I'm going to

FoS: Enchant

.

I guess you will be nightkilled

Nuh uh! You'll have to pretty ambitious to try and kill me tonight.

That was a pretty forced-sounding crumb btw

[furtiveglance]

Ambition sounds sorta Maladiction, but maybe that's town indicative? Idk

UNVOTE: for now

[furtiveglance]

Malediction sorry. I deliberately misspelled it to look like I'm not Malediction

[IceDragon70]

Malediction sorry. I deliberately misspelled it to look like I'm not Malediction

I love that you are admitting it.
Wanna vote Rauther instead? Did you see my reasoning against them?

[furtiveglance]

Malediction sorry. I deliberately misspelled it to look like I'm not Malediction

I love that you are admitting it.
Wanna vote Rauther instead? Did you see my reasoning against them?

Sure, I can see that claiming to have been 'baiting' to explain away a previous statement could be seen as scum backtracking.

My best ChatGPT impression^

Seriously though, I have mixed feelings. In one of many games I lost recently as town, another player deliberately didn't share their true viewpoint in the hope that scum would act a certain way (Klick in Hollow Knight), but I don't think that's quite comparable to this instance.

I'll join you, why not?

If I had to choose another vote today, it would probably be Enchant. When Abnegation made that joke, I did actually ISO Enchant, and I didn't love what I saw. So maybe we could queue that one up for tomorrow.

VOTE: Rautherdir

[Hell Froze Over]

UNVOTE:

Mechanically, ID's claimed role would interact wierdly with a Checker I think. Checker's already not all that good, and would quite antisynergyse with an Empowerer. I don't think ID/Rauth are any likely to be both invocation.

A thought came in my mind that, if Benediction has a factional role

stop

, then a Checker would be significantly more useful, and Benediction would be interested in using an Empowerer to neutralize the Checker
~b

[furtiveglance]

Feysal, The Keeper and Hugir are all slots that I've thought were maybe scum but I'm no longer so sure on.

[IceDragon70]

I'm finally having a quick chance to read the game and not on phone.
And I think I'm beginning to see why Ice was being wagoned.

Page 2 was awkward, and

Guys we've had a fuckton of mechanical discussion but barely any scumhunting.
I'm gonna VOTE: ActionDan because I like their ISO the least.

is also awkward when he seemed engaged on that mechanical discussion.

With that said, I'm trying to focus on The Keeper posts but I played like 5 games of Binding of Isaac and the furthest I've reached was Mom's heart so I have no idea what he's referencing most of the time lol.

Why is it awkward?
I was participating in the discussion, didn't like the direction it was going, so took initiative to change it. It actually worked even though I am being voted for it now.

[IceDragon70]

Malediction sorry. I deliberately misspelled it to look like I'm not Malediction

I love that you are admitting it.
Wanna vote Rauther instead? Did you see my reasoning against them?

Sure, I can see that claiming to have been 'baiting' to explain away a previous statement could be seen as scum backtracking.

My best ChatGPT impression^

Seriously though, I have mixed feelings. In one of many games I lost recently as town, another player deliberately didn't share their true viewpoint in the hope that scum would act a certain way (Klick in Hollow Knight), but I don't think that's quite comparable to this instance.

I'll join you, why not?

If I had to choose another vote today, it would probably be Enchant. When Abnegation made that joke, I did actually ISO Enchant, and I didn't love what I saw. So maybe we could queue that one up for tomorrow.

VOTE: Rautherdir

Wow it is actually a good ChatGPT impression!

[IceDragon70]

Malediction sorry. I deliberately misspelled it to look like I'm not Malediction

I love that you are admitting it.
Wanna vote Rauther instead? Did you see my reasoning against them?

Sure, I can see that claiming to have been 'baiting' to explain away a previous statement could be seen as scum backtracking.

My best ChatGPT impression^

Seriously though, I have mixed feelings. In one of many games I lost recently as town, another player deliberately didn't share their true viewpoint in the hope that scum would act a certain way (Klick in Hollow Knight), but I don't think that's quite comparable to this instance.

I'll join you, why not?

If I had to choose another vote today, it would probably be Enchant. When Abnegation made that joke, I did actually ISO Enchant, and I didn't love what I saw. So maybe we could queue that one up for tomorrow.

VOTE: Rautherdir

I don't like queueing up votes, especially after Newbie 2114, but I am willing to look at an Enchant wagon.

Care to say what specifically don't you like there?

[furtiveglance]

Lack of early reads, which I've started to associate with scum Enchant.

[ActionDan]

I'll be at full capacity tonight

Just skimmed claim. It does feel that roleblock safeguarder plus checker for roleblocked feels gratuitous togrlether and even weirdly punishing for a scum roleblocker or as randomly speculated a factional roleblock.

I vaguely remember an ice post about being hard to kill at night dunno how that related to this claim on first glance. Was it attempt at misdirection?

[furtiveglance]

It was the pun on ambitious/ambition.

[ActionDan]

Ah OK got it. I even saw that but for some reason didn't read the last part of the sentence