Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER

[Gimli]

youre trying to make me look foolish

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ahhh

Maybe?

I am annoyed no one is listening to what feels like simple logic.

So consider the baby steps logic path half condescention born from frustration and half a literal actual check in since you asked me to read you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Because the literal base for me townreading someone at this point is "they understand we need to vote united with Ranger and aren't trying to hold the game hostage against that with their own ego"

[Ranger]

i guess i'm confused why ranger is like
"we should vote within the three of {RR, LLD, Gimli} due to potential doc shenanigans and then when RR does that for ranger's reasoning it's suspect

Because I'm conftown, not confright/confsmart. LLD advocated for sheeping my call and nothing else mattering.

Other players didn't.
1562 even points out why it's bad to blindly sheep me. And far more damning,

Ranger is IC right now, yes. That does not mean she is infallible.
We should vote correctly today, whether Ranger agrees or doesn't. Her being confirmed makes her an incredibly valuable touchstone as a known good-faith source, and lowers the pool of elimination candidates increasing our odds of getting it right... but she is NOT an absolute authority that must be sheeped at all costs.

I believe it's correct play to vote in the pool of {RR, LLD, Gimli}.

Radical Rat themselves specified I am not infallible. My beliefs are included. Just because I believe the pool of {RR, LLD, Gimli} is correct to vote within does not make it correct. I believe it is; I am not infallible.

Radical Rat believing I am not infallible, and Radical Rat sheeping my belief, is a contradiction.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That is the LITERAL base

[Gimli]

all I get from you is condescending interactions

the problem is that you're using it to beat up what I think is likely a correct solve

idk its really effective I've no motivation to argue

that was @lld

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i guess i'm confused why ranger is like
"we should vote within the three of {RR, LLD, Gimli} due to potential doc shenanigans and then when RR does that for ranger's reasoning it's suspect

Because I'm conftown, not confright/confsmart. LLD advocated for sheeping my call and nothing else mattering.

Other players didn't.
1562 even points out why it's bad to blindly sheep me. And far more damning,

Ranger is IC right now, yes. That does not mean she is infallible.
We should vote correctly today, whether Ranger agrees or doesn't. Her being confirmed makes her an incredibly valuable touchstone as a known good-faith source, and lowers the pool of elimination candidates increasing our odds of getting it right... but she is NOT an absolute authority that must be sheeped at all costs.

I believe it's correct play to vote in the pool of {RR, LLD, Gimli}.

Radical Rat themselves specified I am not infallible. My beliefs are included. Just because I believe the pool of {RR, LLD, Gimli} is correct to vote within does not make it correct. I believe it is; I am not infallible.

Radical Rat believing I am not infallible, and Radical Rat sheeping my belief, is a contradiction.

Yes you are fallable but you know what else you are?

Town.

Confirmed town.

In ELO.

People can and SHOULD try to sway you but anyone advocating that they should have more sway over today than you and voting ahead of your call is WRONG

[Save The Dragons]

i think every player is waiting on you lld is just loud

[Lady Lambdadelta]

all I get from you is condescending interactions

the problem is that you're using it to beat up what I think is likely a correct solve

idk its really effective I've no motivation to argue

that was @lld

This is the first time I've been condescending with you.

And your solve assuming you are town is wrong.

I also literally spent today being done with this game and people dragged me out of ot so I don't get this idea that I am somehow like manipulating it

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think every player is waiting on you lld is just loud

Except the one who has already voted

[Save The Dragons]

ok but i haven't voted because i'm waiting on ranger

but somehow lld is untouchable

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But yeah, loud.

Honestly I'm so tired of hearing that. We went back and fucking forth today. I posted about as much as anyone. Ranger reads EVERY post.

I'm not more loud than anyone FUCK god I hate this

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok but i haven't voted because i'm waiting on ranger

but somehow lld is untouchable

Untouchable how?

[Ranger]

how can you agree with her if you wanted to kill outside of kawaii today

My desires matter little to the perspective of others. Your engagement with LLD came across as suspect. Radical Rat's perspective comes across as suspect. You

are

defending Radical Rat, so LLD is correct in pointing out you've done so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like lets say Ranger comes in and says. "I want to do STD today and votes there."

Are you going to vote against Ranger and force a no elim or worse let scum win?

Like look at this. Look at it.

This is apparently a townie saying "no I will not vote with the other confirmed townie with the game on the line"



I will not vote StD today, barring extenuating circumstances. This is different because I actually townread StD as opposed to picking the most agreeable of my two very strong scumreads.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

People are out here on me about shit but someone just literally said "if Ranger picks STD I will not follow"

Instead of arguing to Ranger to not do STD

[Save The Dragons]

sorry i'm tilted from out of game thing

gonna step away.

i don't think loud is necessarily a bad thing tho

[Lady Lambdadelta]

sorry i'm tilted from out of game thing

gonna step away.

i don't think loud is necessarily a bad thing tho

No but it is something that gets thrown at women primarily as an insult and I hate.

Not that you are like that it just

Fucking kills me.

[Radical Rat]

How does me saying I won't vote for StD imply I won't also be trying to convince other people not to?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How does me saying I won't vote for StD imply I won't also be trying to convince other people not to?

We'll you haven't done it at all so far.

Also saying "no I won't ever vote this person even if the confirmed town in ELO votes them and says they will never move" is kind of finality

[Radical Rat]

Because that hasn't happened yet???

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And anti town if you are town.

Like not in the way people throw around as an insult

In the "this is anti town behaviour for a townie to do because it loses games on the spot" way

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Because that hasn't happened yet???

Why do you need to wait for Ranger to VOTE STD to state your opinions?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like FUCK god.

I pray you are scum. I really do.

Cause if you flip town after all of this I am going to lose my fucking mind.

[Radical Rat]

Because if she isn't currently scumreading StD what am I supposed to say? Make up possible arguments that haven't been made yet to counter them?