Mini Normal 2294: Monkey Business (Endgame)

[geraintm]

catching up

I was targeted by a blocking action and a protective action last night

I asked klick to target me and he either failed to do so twice now or he is lying and he is mafia

rn I think he is mafia

1st, someone targetted you with a blocking ability? but you've never claimed having a role (you haven't have you? i checked the summary posts of claims and i cannot see you having one) so who did that? makes no sense unless they are town and thought you were scum or are scum and thought you were lying about having no role? {i have more unformed thoughts about this}

2nd - ive just checked the wiki for visitor - and it says that you wouldn't know that a visitor has been to you.

so how did you know that klick didn't visit you?

of course, scum prob has a roleblocker

I'll just say it then: klick could've been rb'ed by maf and they chose to kill off enchant and rb klick to implicate him

not too hard tbh

but you said you were targetted by a roleblocker? the chances of there being 2 roleblockers in the game seem small?

With the true answer being 'I thought I submitted my visit to you at the start of the Night but I failed to do so, and defaulted to my list which had Ausuka at the top of it'

[Ausuka]

of course, scum prob has a roleblocker

I'll just say it then: klick could've been rb'ed by maf and they chose to kill off enchant and rb klick to implicate him

not too hard tbh

how do mafia roleblock klick and you at the same time

[Klick]

I'm not scum with geraintm because geraintm doesn't really get what was going on with the targeting plan last night and I do

That's probably the biggest evidence that if gera is scum, it's with Kawaii. Anyone else and gera probably has a better understanding of Ausuka/Enchant's role interaction than he currently does.

[Klick]

Gimli was not roleblocked

[Ausuka]

ohh yeah the shield I'm dumb

[Ausuka]

in my defense i just woke up.

Anyway so uh i guess i am feeling gimli is probably town now and if he's scum we just lose anyway so whatever?

I guess i can try and isodive, like, the three musketeers at some point and figure out which of the three is most likely to be a townie

My instinct is that the scumteam is geraintm/klick because i think the scumteam is {Goon/informed/some limited blocking role} and kawaii is confirmed to have a misc action + i think 'informed visitor' feels more funky than 'informed hider' or whatever

But on play kawaii is pretty bad so who knows i guess I will iso him

[Gimli]

Anyway so uh i guess i am feeling gimli is probably town now

it only took me outing and highly implicating scum on the back of your visionary action, but I'll take the townread...

[Gimli]

I guess we didn't connect well this game lmao

[Gimli]

I'll take klick avoiding me twice at night as highly indicative that he lied about his role

[Gimli]

gera dumbtelling pretty hard, nagl

[Gimli]

if kawa lied about being 2x and the scumteam is exactly kawa/klick, then kawa could've targeted me, I'd pick up 'misc' and that'd be enough to at least confirm klick's action

[Ausuka]

if kawa lied about being 2x and the scumteam is exactly kawa/klick, then kawa could've targeted me, I'd pick up 'misc' and that'd be enough to at least confirm klick's action

Mhm I agree

But also I kind of feel like kawaii is actually 2 shot regardless considering sky's flip?

[Gimli]

I guess so yeah

if kawa is scum, unless they gave scum a 2x hider he could be like a '2x mafia checker' and I think that's excessively weak

I'm close to towning hard on kawa as well reading all the players' ISOs

[Gimli]

Anything else? You don't care. Doesn't solve. Doesn't hunt. Doesn't anything. Only: Kawaii and Elsa. I mean wolves are rarely obvious but wow you really are an obvious wolf. No idea what your plan even is here. Defend village Elsa to get village cred? Blatantly defend wolf Elsa every time someone pushes them.

I made a quote wall showing that I do solve/hunt, what do you even mean? I asked why Dio/Enchant is scummier than Kokichi, I stated I see Kokichi as potential scum, I asked what you theorycrafted in page 2

pedit: Content for the sake of content? Why do you downplay my play? I've legit been busy with school fighting against deadlines, ofc I've been disengaged, but that's when I had time and trying... Idk why you so dismissive of how I played going into this narrative you fail to tunnel out of, I don't want to make excuses why I've failed to play but what exactly is there to engage with besides the Elsa push? The game's been falling off and every time I come back it's something against Elsa, do you see any possibility that I am not a wolf and a have a non-wolf motive to defend Elsa?

this reads as pretty genuine iyam

[Gimli]

This game is fucked, let's reset

wait what?

Inactive slots, Meg's absence fucked with the tempo of the game, mafia can easily take advantage of the game state to coast to the end

this is hardly the perception of a wolf on d2 hopefully

[Gimli]

Gera's posting today is hard town lmao

[Gimli]

I do but he keeps bullying me

If you eliminate Kokichi he will stop bullying you

kawa won me over with this post

[Gimli]

If you all want to eliminate me because of my screw up that's fine, but you need to be certain of who to eliminate in EL0 D4 since voting me puts town in a precarious position

Today should be dedicated to finding scum then eliminating me at the end of the day

also think these are +town and pretty genuine

[Gimli]

The worst part is when Kawaii flips town Comus' behaviour won't change at all

and that feels like scum TMIing or whatever instead of klick being partnered with kawa

okay, ausuka, from where I stand on things, my solve is gera/klick and I don't really think I'm about to change that rn.

I'm more confident in flipping gera today because skygazer saved him to hammer mena on d3.

if kawa is scum he played a very towny looking game and I guess I'm okay losing to that

[Gimli]

If you all want to eliminate me because of my screw up that's fine, but you need to be certain of who to eliminate in EL0 D4 since voting me puts town in a precarious position

Today should be dedicated to finding scum then eliminating me at the end of the day

also think these are +town and pretty genuine

I think thats especially towny considering kawa was being 'caught' by skygazer's fakeclaim

doesnt quite read like he knows its a team mate implicating him here

[Ausuka]

I agree that's the most likely team here

I think the point about Klick/kawaii being unlikely was especially convincing because I think in those moments where things get heated (and I completely believe that Klick was annoyed regardless of his alignment) it's easier to like, show your perspective or whatever as scum. And like, I'm pretty sure kawaii flipping looked like a genuine possibility at the time so I don't think that's the angle Klick/kawaii would choose to take

I do want some time to iso them all independently though

[Ausuka]

Gera if you are town i am going to need help seeing it

[geraintm]

gera dumbtelling pretty hard, nagl

is that a good thing or bad thing?
i accept i am dumb

[geraintm]

Gera if you are town i am going to need help seeing it

i think i just havent behaved as scum me normally does. i get weird and lose focus and try and force things through to my advantage as scum, and i havent in this game.
i don't think Mena would have happened if i was scum - at least not how it did, i would have much more opportunistically moved around looking for another wagon to finish off, but i didn't ever try and jump to KawaiiKame which is what i would normally do.

[Ausuka]

Sorry but i don't think I can really believe in that sort of meta at this stage?

Can you comment on the other players