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[Andante]

Andante i can’t keep up with ur posts.

zoom zoom. I am speeeed

[Brian Skies]

My prediction for mafia team is Gimli+Ethan+Firebringer/Brian Skies have fun (or don't i am laughing now)

reminder this is the scum pool enchant was gonna shoot in.
anyone who comes back to me and tells me enchant was a bad yeet, I will refer to this post and remind u. This is the pool that Enchant was gonna shoot in.

I think her pool would've been different if she wasn't eliminated. That group consists of three players on her wagon and Ethel (who was not voting).

I mean, are you suggesting no scum were on that wagon? I feel like his team prediction was definitely reasonable.

No, I'm saying I don't think Enchant shoots in that pool if things turned out differently.

[Brian Skies]

Oh I see! Okay, that makes sense, thank you for explaining.

As for the Cephy read, I just know them well and maybe feel a little overconfident in my ability to gauge their actions. I could be way off, but i'm confident that i'm not.

I fail to see how one game constitutes "knowing him well."

[Cephrir]

It's zero games - we are friends

[Firebringer]

i will give hot takes later today

[Andante]

i will give hot takes later today

any spicy?

[Elpis]

So for those listed in that pool, most of them are more null-scum than they are scum, but because I feel strongly about cephy/ethel not being scum, obviously it only leaves those remaining slots as potential for the moment. I wouldn't say I scumread them as much as I would say I strongly townread ethel/cephy. As for StD, I just feel he's been quiet, and when he has spoken up on matters, it hasn't really felt like it's contributing more than just a simple expression.

I apologize for the accusatory context that post may have provided, but to be more accurate, I SR StD, I null-scum the rest, and I null-read fire. I haven't been as actively ISOing as I need to, and to be completely honest, my reads past cephy and ethel have little basis beyond vibes. I will need to sleep here soon because I have accidentally ruined my schedule (oops), but after I wake up, I promise to do some ISO's and actually commit more effort to making more solid reads

[Elpis]

Andante is somewhere between null/null-town rn

[Elpis]

It's zero games - we are friends

We have a symbiotic bond wherein lots of crying occurs

[Elpis]

Save The Dragons [2]: Cephrir [1091], Elpis [1113]

unless this is like a "I TR Ceph, I Sheep Ceph" kinda thing? but ehhh

It is not a sheeping cephy thing. I have felt suspicious of StD for a while at this point.

[Elpis]

I'm more interested in seeing how elpis goes from here with those SRs cause he's just been shooting down SRs left and right so if my "case on ethel" is bad, I can't wait to see a good case on like Fire, or even a case on dragons, cause he's voting dragons, but seemed more interested in talking with me about ethel than showing me how dragons is scum

This is primarily because I need to form a better assessment of why I feel the way I do, and put that into words (difficult).

[Save The Dragons]

Well I never

[Elpis]

My excuse is that moving is hard

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 2.03

With 11 players, it takes 6 to make a decision. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-04-24 19:00:00).

VC

Ethel [3]:

Andante [1007], Save The Dragons [1013], Brian Skies [1029]

Save The Dragons [2]:

Cephrir [1091], Elpis [1113]

Not voting [6]:

Marquis, Not_Mafia, Gimli, Ethel, NorwegianboyEE, Firebringer

Flavor

Spoiler: Brisbane

[Not_Mafia]

Where has the StD wagon come from?

[Ethel]

it's not like I don't give reasons, I definitely do. not my fault yall ignore, thus "ETHEL MAF ETHEL MAF!!" gets the point across

Oh, please do give your reasons. I'm not gonna do an ISO of you because I want to preserve my sanity, but all I remember is "Ethel voted me but said I wasn't scummy, so Ethel is scum". Which I have explained more than once now but each time you ignore it, just as you have ignored my point about Gimli actually doing what you have accused me of.

enchant's dying words were "ethel is maf"

Funny that you mention that. Let's look at Enchants

actual

last words, shall we?

VOTE: enchant

this is e-1 etc

This is scum

Gimli knows about NM quickhammering atlitude. Therefore it was on purpose.

Get rid on him.

Incase you mean this post instead:

It's Ethel btw

It was about me being his neighbor. And if you mean this:

My prediction for mafia team is Gimli+Ethan+Firebringer/Brian Skies have fun (or don't i am laughing now)

This is hardly the "Ethel maf" call you make it out to be. Of course I don't actually think that any of these posts are of particular importance and I wouldn't give them as a reason for reading someone, but it just shows again how hard you are tunneling on me and that you will point at anything in order to say "Ethel scum" again and, unknowingly or not, take full advantage of the illusory truth effect. And no, I do not think you are scum, I think you are just unreasonable town, even though that doesn't make dealing with you any easier. That's because I think it's unlikely that both you and Save the Dragons are scum, and after giving it some thought it seems more likely that he is. At first he pointed out how Andante was just skipping over parts of my post, and even said this:

i dunno i feel like andante's push on ethel could be scummy

But then he started voting me because of 'the vibe'. And I get it as a reason for voting someone, especially on Day 1, but on Day 2 he immediately voted me again without giving any further reasoning. And my name seems to very small on his readslist. As an experienced mafia player I would expect him to be aware that 'vibes' are never this infallible, so the fact that he's still scumreading me this much means to me that either he's lying or he's doing this for some other reasons, and I really don't know why. So I think what happened is that he realized that Andante would just tunnel onto me and he could just vote me without taking much heat for it.
VOTE: Save the Dragons

[NorwegianboyEE]

Never thought i’d say this, but Ethel kinda feels town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What kind of screwery is RC plotting with this neighbour-heavy setup.

[Gimli]

Never thought i’d say this, but Ethel kinda feels town.

yeah agreed I think ethel is town

[Andante]

nah ethel is still scum!

[Gimli]

I think we lost this game already btw

[Andante]

it... is looking like that yes.. but we can turn it around with a scum flip!!

[Save The Dragons]

i dunno if there's scum motivation for me doing what i'm doing

[Andante]

i dunno if there's scum motivation for me doing what i'm doing

that feels like something scum would say... sus. lol jk, ethel is scum and I'm staying here and suggest others join me!

[Gimli]

its something incredibly insane like brian/norwee/?????

that's why MT flipped, she is good at reading these guys

and I'm not gonna bother trying to win cause I flipped enchant and I need death before brian and norwee do. norwee's push on nsg is super disingenuous imo. but I can't even say that cause last gameday I was like 'okay i dont fully agree with firebringer's perspective but I guess that's a good flip', but ofc norwee was just inflating it meh. and I e-1ed enchant like a scumsiding idiot.