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[Skygazer]

The end of the day post Sky made hopping on the wagon always is going to ping me, but I don't think scumSkygazer has any reason to say that rather than just keep quiet.

ya right before kitty flipped i was thinking "if he flips red i kinda put my foot in my mouth huh"

[Skygazer]

accidental page top

[curiouskarmadog]

Still think it's CKD. The case makes sense and they're doing a poor job defending themself.

whats that case again?

AHH, I accidentally double posted!

curiouskarmadog

This is who I think is most scummy at the moment.

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

Why? None of their posts have seriously moved towards scumhunting. In fact, to the extent that they've expressed theories on how to scumhunt, they've done the opposite -- or even worse -- not followed through on what they promised/gave the illusion of doing. First:

It begins

Hello everyone

So right off the bat I'm somewhat suspicious of both Kawaii and Hu Tao here. This is admitedly somewhat weak because the game just started, but both of these posts are really fluffy, non-commital and not progressing the game. Now, is this progressing the game more than a random vote? I dunno, but the reason why "random" votes are a thing is to create an initial paper trail of some sort...they aren't really random, so it immediately puts the scum in a bit of a pick of whether or not to bus. So far, these posts are just the most flimsy, "hey I'm here but not actually advancing the game" kind of posts.

I'm, going to go ahead and VOTE: Hu Tao


Mainly because it was another post right after a fluff post by Kawaii. Kind of reads as scum thinking "okay, need to say something now to not look suspicious" while being non-comittal.

Also going to put a

finger of suspicion on Kawaii

for similar sorts of reasons, but I think it's very unlikely that both Kawaii and Hu are scum. No way a scum comes in right after their buddy to make an almost identical post.

Im sold.

However, Im going to

vote Kawaii

I hate finger of suspicions...its like getting credit for a vote without having to do anything. If Kawaii flips scum, this looks sketchy.

consider this my

finger of suspicion (any hypocrisy) on Bub

Earlier I asked why Kawaii and not Hsu? If they believed me, why not vote for Hsu? Sure it's early and essentially a random vote, but I asked for explanation directly in post #39 and got crickets. Like, the whole idea of starting a flimsy wagon at the beginning was to generate some conversation about what scummy behavior is...but there's no effort to actually discuss that behavior.

Second...

I vote Kowahbunga for town leader.

(attempt to make friends)

then

(tells some jokes)

fun. clearly cant be scum

there should be a sarcasm font.

Making some vague allusions to the idea that Andate is scummy with no follow-up or serious pursuit. Just trying to sow generally mistrust on people in low-cost ways is scummy. This makes me think Andate is town -- conditional on curiouskarmakitty being scum -- because this is way too weak to be a bus. Also, curiouskarmakitty themselves said that fingers of suspician are cheap because it's a way to get credit for suspecting folks without doing the work...but here they are doing something very similar. I know they were intentionally hypocritcal earlier for a laugh (I don't read that as scummy) but this seems actually hypocritcal in a way that would be beneficial for scum.

also lets get this wagon started...

more votes on me please, lets get an early wagon started for giggles and see what happens.

this Day 1 fluff business is done. The true hunting of scum happens on the wagons!!!!

The wagon's already going my friend. Maybe try actually scumhunting instead of saying that you're going to do it.

I'm happy with my vote.

When I see a case that i think makes sense I usually just sheep it.

As much as I would love to get ole Bub D2....I find it hard to believe that scum would lean on a partner's case to kill a townie this blatantly.

[Skygazer]

did greeting claim mason with anyone? i wanna do that thing where u make the votes different colors

[curiouskarmadog]

Oh shit Kitty's iso is bad y'all. Cheaply jumping onto the shitty glitch wagon and also cheaply jumping onto the shitty skygazer wagon.

VOTE: kitty

Still think Andante's more likely to be scum unless there was something in the last 20 pages that indicated she's townie that my eyes glazed over because there's only so many 1 sentence fluff posts I can take before it all gets re-routed into the garbabge dump section of my brain.

Kitty's iso is legitimately worse than greeting's though. Greeting's play has not been great as they slid on the shitty skygazer wagon, but their play is more plausibly read as disengaged/limited time rather than fluff posting.

HOWEVER, quick question Bub, when declaring that KT's iso was scummy, why did you feel that way? Was it just KT jumping on Sky and Glitch wagons?

[curiouskarmadog]

did greeting claim mason with anyone? i wanna do that thing where u make the votes different colors

"I am asking a question that I could easily look up for myself, but hey it looks like I am doing something and not lurking".

[Hu Tao]

KittyTacky (9): Flavor Leaf, Gimli, NJAC, Andante, Save The Dragons, curiouskarmadog, Bub Bidderskins, Hu Tao, Kowahbunga

NJAC and Andante feel cleanest on this wagon. (imo, i'm easily cleanest here, but that's for you guys to decide.)

I imagine a scum or 2 bussed here tbh, at least one just to try and get cred.

Hu Tao not looking too good right now.

Yeah okay dude

[Hu Tao]

I got visited by an announcing Jailkeeper tonight. Not sure why they would want to visit a Mason, but okay.

We had no kill. Why would you claim this..... it's clear the jail keep saved you. Now you made it easier for scum to know what happened

[Hu Tao]

I got visited by an announcing Jailkeeper tonight. Not sure why they would want to visit a Mason, but okay.

This is why this is weird for me. You're a claimed Mason, meaning you don't really mind getting roleblocked, and you were the only claimed PR.

We also had a No Kill.

I think this makes sense that you would be targeted by a Jailkeeper. This indicates that the JK is town.

Agreed

[Gimli]

did greeting claim mason with anyone? i wanna do that thing where u make the votes different colors

I wanna quote this just to say greeting has to out his mason partner at this point

after all greeting WAS jailed and there was no NK and I don't think the scum team would ever kill greeting so things are suspicious rn. we need a full claim.

pedit: I don't think the jailkeeper saved greeting, unless they saved greeting from a town vigilante.

[Hu Tao]

Greeting should HC his partner today

No he shouldn't. He's clear by jailkeep. He doesn't need to. Assuming he can be jail kept again he can stay alive

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao or Enchant are my main focuses for the day. Gimli can get it too, but I think Hu Tao and Enchant are in a tier of their own under Gimli now.

Literally 3 terrible votes

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: GIF

for now

Bad vote, I think they are town. What do you think of Malcom?

[Gimli]

Greeting should HC his partner today

No he shouldn't. He's clear by jailkeep. He doesn't need to. Assuming he can be jail kept again he can stay alive

you understand the jailkeeper would also block greeting from performing the factional night kill, right? he is not clear my dude

[Hu Tao]

I'm not reading fl's posts today unless they're short btw

Damn good idea

Agreed good plan

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Hu Tao

I'm gonna go here. The Skygazer wagon from Day 1 is super scummy. Super good wagonomics coming our way.

I'm in celebration mode still for that sick Day 1.

Yeah okay bro

[Gimli]

VOTE: GIF

for now

Bad vote, I think they are town. What do you think of Malcom?

I don't really know. I'm gonna need a few days to parse out slots like malcolm. didn't read kitty for spew either atm.

[Hu Tao]

FL my issue with you just declaring as much towncred as you are and it looks like you’re gonna repeat what you did yesterday with this death tunnel, is that as soon as I claimed VT, you were done with it… there were plenty of chances before my claim that would’ve been a good chance to unvote, but as soon as i claimed VT? “ok new wagon time” is essentially what happened. Enchant and Hu Tao are 2 people I never want voted out d2

I think we just ignore FL tbh. Hopefully he's town like I think he is. But if he's scum he'll be outed eventually

[Hu Tao]

did greeting claim mason with anyone? i wanna do that thing where u make the votes different colors

Nope. Don't think he needs to tbh. There has been no other claim to be responsible for the no kill so we believe the jail keep

[Hu Tao]

did greeting claim mason with anyone? i wanna do that thing where u make the votes different colors

I wanna quote this just to say greeting has to out his mason partner at this point

after all greeting WAS jailed and there was no NK and I don't think the scum team would ever kill greeting so things are suspicious rn. we need a full claim.

pedit: I don't think the jailkeeper saved greeting, unless they saved greeting from a town vigilante.

Unless there is a counterclaim imo he doesn't. We don't need to give scum more info

[Gimli]

hu tao are you the user black? you're using the same avi character as black and has similar ugh vibes

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: GIF

for now

Bad vote, I think they are town. What do you think of Malcom?

I don't really know. I'm gonna need a few days to parse out slots like malcolm. didn't read kitty for spew either atm.

You're my biggest townread. I think there is 0 chance you're scum so leaning on you for help here. Can you tell me thoughts on bub? Thought he was scummy yesterday and maybe he bussed at the end

[Gimli]

bub is hard town imo

[Hu Tao]

hu tao are you the user black? you're using the same avi character as black and has similar ugh vibes

Nope. This is my first full game on the site. I come from epicmafia if you're familiar with that old site

[Hu Tao]

bub is hard town imo

Why??