I mean you said my vibes are the same in "all the other games" you've played with me. It was literally just one. And if you are seriously using meta on one game as the basis for your vote then I definitely SR that
In post 324, usesPython wrote:
I've yet to master the art of reading 100 pages in under an hour, sheeping a wagon while I'm reading DN is the next best thing I've got
Like from my experience playing with you and spectating your scum games you give off the same vibes there as here, I don't understand what's so hard to understand that that + Kokichi saying you have different vibes from your town game with them is enough for me to look deeper
In post 162, Black wrote:
I don't really think python "main hunting" is AI though
In post 326, Black wrote:
Convenient of you to ignore my first point. Using meta as the foundation of your vote is not town behavior
Python's mainhunting was explicitly used to provide meta to base their Dragon vote on. If using meta as the foundation of a vote is not town behaviour, then you should think it's AI, isn't it?
In post 162, Black wrote:
I don't really think python "main hunting" is AI though
In post 326, Black wrote:
Convenient of you to ignore my first point. Using meta as the foundation of your vote is not town behavior
Python's mainhunting was explicitly used to provide meta to base their Dragon vote on. If using meta as the foundation of a vote is not town behaviour, then you should think it's AI, isn't it?
VOTE: Black
Nah you see the difference is that I'm doing it to Black instead of Dragon this time.
In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
Black's been scum in Newbie 2111, Newbie 2113, Newbie 2116. It's basically a meme at this point that Black can't roll town in Newbie games
Sounds like my polar opposite because this one just can't roll scum.
In post 162, Black wrote:
I don't really think python "main hunting" is AI though
In post 326, Black wrote:
Convenient of you to ignore my first point. Using meta as the foundation of your vote is not town behavior
Python's mainhunting was explicitly used to provide meta to base their Dragon vote on. If using meta as the foundation of a vote is not town behaviour, then you should think it's AI, isn't it?
VOTE: Black
This is a good point though.
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In post 162, Black wrote:
I don't really think python "main hunting" is AI though
In post 326, Black wrote:
Convenient of you to ignore my first point. Using meta as the foundation of your vote is not town behavior
Python's mainhunting was explicitly used to provide meta to base their Dragon vote on. If using meta as the foundation of a vote is not town behaviour, then you should think it's AI, isn't it?
VOTE: Black
Yeah that's fair. I guess in my mind there's a difference in using it for the first push of the game on page 3 and then using it slightly more seriously here later in the game
Okay first big red flag on Black (or black flag, it guesses) is that none of her DN solving effort really seems to be present. Maybe that's just a consequence of how DN's setup was, but... This setup is kinda similar in it's extra emphasis on day-time analysis to find scum since there's no investigatives, which even
DN
had one!
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You all are more than welcome to lim me based on meta ig?
You can read DN yourselves and probably see the only difference here is I'm playing more loose, and I already explained that's because of the playerlist
In post 335, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Okay first big red flag on Black (or black flag, it guesses) is that none of her DN solving effort really seems to be present. Maybe that's just a consequence of how DN's setup was, but... This setup is kinda similar in it's extra emphasis on day-time analysis to find scum since there's no investigatives, which even
DN
had one!
Can you elaborate on this? My solving effort consists of me asking questions. How is this game any different?
In post 335, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Okay first big red flag on Black (or black flag, it guesses) is that none of her DN solving effort really seems to be present. Maybe that's just a consequence of how DN's setup was, but... This setup is kinda similar in it's extra emphasis on day-time analysis to find scum since there's no investigatives, which even
DN
had one!
Can you elaborate on this? My solving effort consists of me asking questions. How is this game any different?
You've hardly been doing that, and your questions asked don't do a lot altogether, honestly. They're like, okay questions, not really scummy, but their frequency and contents don't match the amount of solving you put into DN. Maybe you need more time, but still, it's giving me bad vibes.
Very extremely unrelated but now exactly 2000 of your posts are NOT from DN.
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In post 335, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Okay first big red flag on Black (or black flag, it guesses) is that none of her DN solving effort really seems to be present. Maybe that's just a consequence of how DN's setup was, but... This setup is kinda similar in it's extra emphasis on day-time analysis to find scum since there's no investigatives, which even
DN
had one!
Can you elaborate on this? My solving effort consists of me asking questions. How is this game any different?
Still reading through DN but compare your posting this game to stuff like this
-A
In post 173, Black wrote:
Ok...weird thoughts on Vander so far...a lot of these actions are NAI but they still pinged me
Do we like spoilers? Do we not like spoilers? Will people read this if I put it in tags or will people hate me for not tagging it and clogging up the page? I have Mafia anxiety
Spoiler: Vander giving me the creeps
In post 14, Vanderscamp wrote:
Thoughts on skills?
I don't see any kind of obvious partial skill claiming plans, I think any advantage to open claiming a skill is probably not worth reducing Kira NK info, but keen to discuss if anyone feels differently
I thought even bringing up skill claiming was weird and it was framed like he definitely doesn't want to do it while also leaving the door open to discuss. Just felt off
Vander agreeing with several things that Gimli proposed here. Not much extra input or anything
In post 78, Vanderscamp wrote:Just Kira who knows which skills aren't in play, right?
Could be informed but also could just be paying more attention to me which is entirely possible lol
In post 79, Vanderscamp wrote:Assuming I'm right about the rules, strong read from this that Black is not a follower
These types of reads are easy to make and I think followers/Kira benefit more from these definitive declarations more than taskforce. I still think it's NAI because Vander could post this as either alignment but I can't help that I felt weird about it
In post 80, Vanderscamp wrote:Does scumBlack typically openly advocate pro-scum strategies?
This just seems like Vander is trying to solve without really putting much thought into it. Posting this question and legit hoping to get an answer back seems like a reach
More sheeping of Gimli with no elaboration on why he likes the thought process
In post 98, Vanderscamp wrote:
I thought kokichi might have been scum for the vote on black for the call for skill claims, but his response to me asking about it felt null
Riding the fence on Kokichi. Keeping the door open
In post 112, Vanderscamp wrote:Nah, I could see it as Kira who sees what skills aren't in play, assumes that the followers also got the same info, and is just trying to tell followers what to do to identify him.
Not a high likelihood world, and I didn't look at that post and think "this looks like Kira coaching," but I could see it being a thing.
In post 107, Black wrote:
Lorne... when you wrote 28 did you know that only Kira can see what skills are in play and not the followers?
How do you know only Kira can see the skills in play?
VOTE: Kawaii
Why does Kawaii get a vote for not reading the rules but not me, especially when you just said I could be Kira?
So yeah... a lot of this is just me getting a vibe that Vander is trying to seem like a proactive townie while really not contributing much of his own stuff. When he is providing he's arguing why people can go either alignment. The skills comment is probably the most scummy thing here along with the Kawaii vote
@Python - yeah I was clearly more invested in DN. That was only pg 7 but I feel like more stuff happened in those 7 pages than the 14 pages we have here. Lots more mech discussion and honestly just discussion in general. I found it much easier to read people that game
I'm most sus of Python over this. I can kinda see this angle from Kokichi and HPE, I'm not really sure about Bianco as a player, but I don't see this push coming from town!python at all
In post 342, Black wrote:
I'm most sus of Python over this. I can kinda see this angle from Kokichi and HPE, I'm not really sure about Bianco as a player, but I don't see this push coming from town!python at all
VOTE: python
Intresting, you don't think we genuinely think you're scum?
Can't exactly speak on that when this one has no experience with them, but they did also make meta points against IceDragon and Malakittens THIS GAME though, so dunno if this is exactly a not town thing to do... Eh.
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In post 341, Black wrote:
It doesn't really feel like I've found my footing in this game and I seriously can't believe there's a meta wagon on me rn
Upset on the reasons you are caught, or just upset being caught?
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In post 346, usesPython wrote:
"You might be genuine but you probably aren't but if you are you're other groupscum"? Can you explain further?
What I'm saying is you might think I'm scum. That part can be genuine. But that doesn't mean you are town like it would in a normal setup
I looked at a past game because I wanted to see if you used meta to base a vote. You didn't, but I did find a post where you said you like to scumhunt by pushing people to see how they react