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[Flavor Leaf]

But fun overdefensive reaction haha

[Hu Tao]

I think more important than her reads or progressions on players is how andante fought off her wagon with an energy and consistency that's hardly fitting with her scumrange. she felt genuine sounding throughout being the game's top wagon and is almost never scum as a result of that. I'll die on that hill tbh.

I should be asleep.

tbh I don't have good scumreads other than venmar, but I trust my venmar scumread to a certain level and I'll push for that flip over hu tao who's very likely a townie for sure.

Yes I agree with this

[Flavor Leaf]

Once I claimed VT, that was the instant FL’s tunnel on me ended

This is completely untrue, by the way.

If anything, that's when I pushed you harder.

[Hu Tao]

Eh, it's good enough to drop Andante down a tier in my town reads. I think that makes a lot of sense from a potential ScumAndante perspective.

nahhh you’re scum who realized we’re gonna lim your partner Eira, and we’re close to the other, and half the town wants you dead… you need more options on the table

Can we wait for eira to get a replacement at least?

[Hu Tao]

NJAC still want Venmar gone? What are your other reads?

Yes. I'm still working on that. I would focus on those who didn't vote kitty yesterday. Malcolm could be scum, I think.

Okay once eira gets a replacement and can talk a bit ill join venmar wagon.

[Gimli]

I think we had enough tvt between the two of you on D1

More venmar votes pls

Pedit: let's not flip eira today? His nonposting isn't AI, it's literally sitewide.

Pedit 2: okay

[Hu Tao]

There is a lot to gather from today in my opinion. How long do we usually have to wait for someone to be replaced? It's been like a week since they posted...

[Gimli]

@schadd_ is it time to prod or look for a replacement for eiralox?

[Hu Tao]

I think we had enough tvt between the two of you on D1

More venmar votes pls

Pedit: let's not flip eira today? His nonposting isn't AI, it's literally sitewide.

Pedit 2: okay

What do you think of the wagon on me? Besides venmar I mean FL and Bub. Do you really still hard tr Bub? Is it just from early game catchup? Cause I agree he was town early on but fell off hard

[Flavor Leaf]

if it wasn't for the BOP paranoia on me, I'd be the most obv townie in the game right now

[Flavor Leaf]

i think i wanna move Gimli up on my list a step.

It's possible our little quad we got going here is all town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not ready to move off Hu Tao, though, I keep going back and forth. Wanna see a dueling wagon with Venmar and Hu Tao, though.

[Gimli]

@hu: I think they're looking at tiny evidence from interactions you had with kitty that looked kinda weak from both sides, instead of looking at the big picture of how you behaved throughout D1. I think it's a little lazy but not necessarily scummy. I'm not agreeing with much of what FL is posting in this game but at this point I don't really think he can be scum. And I'm still vibing with bub, they're both hard town barking up the wrong tree imo.

[Hu Tao]

MY READS

Hard Town

: Highly likely town. Doubt I ever go back on any of these reads.

Kowahbunga
Gimli /

Cephrir

Greeting
NJAC

Light Town

: Slight town reads that could be wrong but think they are town by play yesterday

GuyInFreezer /

Brickwalll

Heavy Posters

: Given me one reason or more to think they are town but I think I could be fooled by one of them since they seem like advanced players.

If

I'm wrong about one, I don't think it's more than one in this group currently.

Andante
Save The Dragons
Enchant /

Glitch

Flavor Leaf /

Dionysus

Null

: Given me one reason or another to not want them today, but not giving them more than this rating

curiouskarmadog
Skygazer

Unsure/Lurker/Replace

: Self explanatory. Want a replacement for this before I move up or down.

Eiralox /

ballpointpen

Scummy

: Given one or more reason to make me think they are scummy

Bub Bidderskins
MalcolmTucker

Scum

: Highly likely scum

Venmar /

KawaiiKame

[Hu Tao]

Not ready to move off Hu Tao, though, I keep going back and forth. Wanna see a dueling wagon with Venmar and Hu Tao, though.

The fact that you can put me in the same wagon right now as venmar is the reason people don't town read you

[Hu Tao]

@hu: I think they're looking at tiny evidence from interactions you had with kitty that looked kinda weak from both sides, instead of looking at the big picture of how you behaved throughout D1. I think it's a little lazy but not necessarily scummy. I'm not agreeing with much of what FL is posting in this game but at this point I don't really think he can be scum. And I'm still vibing with bub, they're both hard town barking up the wrong tree imo.

That's fair. I'm fine with neither of them today of course

[Flavor Leaf]

Not ready to move off Hu Tao, though, I keep going back and forth. Wanna see a dueling wagon with Venmar and Hu Tao, though.

The fact that you can put me in the same wagon right now as venmar is the reason people don't town read you

Pretty sure most of this game town reads me, bud.

Even you and Gimli are pushing me as more likely town, so idk who you're talking about besides like Andante and the occasional Skygazer.

[Flavor Leaf]

viewtopic.php?p=13136271#p13136271

Also because I think it's funny, and I'm looking into Andante scum game right now.

Andante said the same thing this game calling me out for contradicting claim talk.

They were scum, and I was town giving them heat.

[Flavor Leaf]

OMFG. So I'm playing on my April Ludgate account in this game, right, I'm town, Andante scum.

viewtopic.php?p=13143317#p13143317

Andante is saying in that game "April did a lot where I was like, they are not town... basically went "limming the vt is our best option" along with "no one can claim, yet we can mass claim tomorrow"

Literally the exact same shit happening.


This entire game I'm looking at Andante and it's like the same exact game happening. LOL

[Flavor Leaf]

viewtopic.php?p=13145880#p13145880

AndanteScum saying I was setting elims up for the future here as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

Andante also bussed their scum partner there, and then killed me off in the Night.

And then NorwegianBoy says something like "This is the first game i've been able to identify TownFlavor. His town game is pretty scummy tbh", so right on queue with my town meta feeling kinda scummy to people.



viewtopic.php?p=13145884#p13145884 - this link is Andante, while bussing a scum partner in the other game, they said they're no longer feeling good about fading...and then at the end they put an 'aaaaaahh'

here at the end of Day 1, they did this.

I'm just a little scared on how that seemed so easy.. yet the wagon against me for 3 days was such a struggle for yall

like.. we finally agree on a wagon!!! but.. why kitty over all the other wagons we've tried.. ahhh I scared...

[Andante]

shushhhhhh
ok I saw this giant case for 0 reason and it was 5am…. been a week… you can be bestie again!!

and @whoever, yeah sure, I don’t tr ven
VOTE: Venmar

viewtopic.php?p=13136271#p13136271

Also because I think it's funny, and I'm looking into Andante scum game right now.

Andante said the same thing this game calling me out for contradicting claim talk.

They were scum, and I was town giving them heat.

[Andante]

fish in the sea is definitely one of my best game in general on this site but that’s actually funny the same claims argument happened

[Flavor Leaf]

@Gimli - Can you please look at that game, mainly Andante-April Ludgate dynamic there compared to here.

It's like the exact same thing. I had caught AndanteScum before, and that's why I felt it so much earlier.

You also just watched most of that Demon Slayer game, right? You saw how I was scum reading Grandpa and then something happened because of the way we interacted, and I started to town read Grandpa heavily? When I start to scum read scum, scum will come after me for a minute, then find out me town reading them is better, but when it fades, they'll attack again.

This IN CONJUNCTION with the case I presented yesterday, and the fact that it's obvious scum did not want Andante faded yesterday, and wasn't helping the wagon, I do believe there is a strong case to be made for Andante scum.

Honestly, the exact same meta cases happening yet again and the similarities between this game and that game are astonishing.

[Andante]

Andante also bussed their scum partner there, and then killed me off in the Night.

And then NorwegianBoy says something like "This is the first game i've been able to identify TownFlavor. His town game is pretty scummy tbh", so right on queue with my town meta feeling kinda scummy to people.



viewtopic.php?p=13145884#p13145884 - this link is Andante, while bussing a scum partner in the other game, they said they're no longer feeling good about fading...and then at the end they put an 'aaaaaahh'

here at the end of Day 1, they did this.

I'm just a little scared on how that seemed so easy.. yet the wagon against me for 3 days was such a struggle for yall

like.. we finally agree on a wagon!!! but.. why kitty over all the other wagons we've tried.. ahhh I scared...

yeah you were catching on I believe, thus… had to go