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[Abnegation]

4/5 of the way to post 1000.

[ActionDan]

My reads on Enchant and furtive are mostly based on vibes. I don't think I'd find either an easy read if I hadn't played with them before. But I have played with them, and they just happen to pop out to me this game. I will now attempt to explain the vibes but the key thing to know is that they're not completely logically explainable, they're gut reads.

Tonight's Tinfoil is that I'm suddenly wondering if I should take my furtive townread away D:

"Why" idk I just ISOed him again and everything suddenly looks scummy, please help D: D:

Congratulations! You've discovered why "vibes" (uggg) alone don't work. Good that you rescinded the furtive read as 737 was rather contrived, even you must have felt that when writing that out right?

I think the basis for the Enchant read is way better in 721, though I am not fully onboard until more time as passed. I have played with him too as scum and it became rather obvious he was and while it wasn't exactly quantifiable there was definitely a reason why that I will not explain. Caveat I haven't been in an extended game with him as town.

I'll revaluate my Hugir read and see if it holds up.

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I don't like 715. Aside from a rather major flaw in the logic, there's no connection whatsoever between 635 and the speculation in 715. Thus it was said to be said with some sort of purposeful intent.

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About Kawaii. They're green scum. And they've been green scum 100% since the Rauth flip. I was looking a bit to see what everyelse's reaction today would be but no one really did any haw-hemming

[Hugir]

I guess I'm wondering - does anyone here have any familiarity with Kawaii? Is their tone their usual town tone? Is this too easy? What alignment is everyone else? I don't really have a feel for this game so I'm not really aching to flashwagon Kawaii right this very second. But the people on the wagon have points.

All I can say is that I agree about the lurking being meaningless. Also, KawaiiKame is still new, having joined the site less than two months ago, and that makes their play harder to read. Newbies make newbie mistakes, but even so, I feel good about this.

By the way, when I first mentioned switching to KawaiiKame, it was based on nothing more than the off chance that your predecessor had gotten demoralized and replaced out because of their partner. Why I picked them over Goldfish was because they came back and continued to be useless. Given how few people were actively posting, I was fine with getting rid of a lurker, while a replacement could still redeem Goldfish's slot.

Kawaii and I have been going back and forth on our games in how inactive we can be, assuming due to outside life.


-hebi

[Hugir]

I guess I'm wondering - does anyone here have any familiarity with Kawaii? Is their tone their usual town tone? Is this too easy? What alignment is everyone else? I don't really have a feel for this game so I'm not really aching to flashwagon Kawaii right this very second. But the people on the wagon have points.

All I can say is that I agree about the lurking being meaningless. Also, KawaiiKame is still new, having joined the site less than two months ago, and that makes their play harder to read. Newbies make newbie mistakes, but even so, I feel good about this.

By the way, when I first mentioned switching to KawaiiKame, it was based on nothing more than the off chance that your predecessor had gotten demoralized and replaced out because of their partner. Why I picked them over Goldfish was because they came back and continued to be useless. Given how few people were actively posting, I was fine with getting rid of a lurker, while a replacement could still redeem Goldfish's slot.

Kawaii and I have been going back and forth on our games in how inactive we can be, assuming due to outside life.


-hebi

[Hugir]

Kawaii did not want this lim. I'm actually fairly confident that they would have preferred a nolim to it.
This makes no sense from a red, especially if it's true that they can't crosskill directly. This also makes little sense from blue; it's also an unfortunate stretegy for green, but at least it would make some sense.

I just read this and it made me come up with a rather wild speculation.
Assuming it's true scum can't crosskill directly, but still have a way to get the other scum killed (per the phrasing Rauth used), it's possible that each scumteam has a publishing cop on the other scumteam.
So basically my specuation is that Malediction can check if a player is Benediction, and post that info publicly.
If that's the case and they used it on The Keeper, then The Keeper would be mechanically confirmed not scum.
Of course it's just wild speculation so they are not actually confirmed, but I am just bringing this up as a possibility.

I hate this post so much. Reads like scum pointing town in a direction.

[Hugir]

We should likely wait for kawaii though, I do agree with that vibe. I need to consult with my other head a bit.

[Abnegation]

"a direction" as in they're scum with keeper trying to get them confirmed? hoping town would think something like i suggested in 717 and trying to draw out a roleblocker? can you be a little more specific?

[Hugir]

"a direction" as in they're scum with keeper trying to get them confirmed? hoping town would think something like i suggested in 717 and trying to draw out a roleblocker? can you be a little more specific?

Sorry, I'm trying to say that they're trying to pull town toward scumreading cop claims preemptively.

[Hugir]

My reads on Enchant and furtive are mostly based on vibes. I don't think I'd find either an easy read if I hadn't played with them before. But I have played with them, and they just happen to pop out to me this game. I will now attempt to explain the vibes but the key thing to know is that they're not completely logically explainable, they're gut reads.

Tonight's Tinfoil is that I'm suddenly wondering if I should take my furtive townread away D:

"Why" idk I just ISOed him again and everything suddenly looks scummy, please help D: D:

Congratulations! You've discovered why "vibes" (uggg) alone don't work. Good that you rescinded the furtive read as 737 was rather contrived, even you must have felt that when writing that out right?

I think the basis for the Enchant read is way better in 721, though I am not fully onboard until more time as passed. I have played with him too as scum and it became rather obvious he was and while it wasn't exactly quantifiable there was definitely a reason why that I will not explain. Caveat I haven't been in an extended game with him as town.

I'll revaluate my Hugir read and see if it holds up.

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I don't like 715. Aside from a rather major flaw in the logic, there's no connection whatsoever between 635 and the speculation in 715. Thus it was said to be said with some sort of purposeful intent.

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About Kawaii. They're green scum. And they've been green scum 100% since the Rauth flip. I was looking a bit to see what everyelse's reaction today would be but no one really did any haw-hemming

I think I agree with this analysis though, even if Kawaii site flanked in general.


I just don't see the point in rushing the day through yet.

[Hugir]

VOTE: Abnegation

Are you actually scumreading abnegation or is this just a frustration vote?

[Aisa]

"vibes" (uggg)

Hahahahah
I just spent an excessive amount of time smiling that I made you say it again :’)

[The Keeper]

Furtive is scum.

Locked in never recind.

Even after a blue flip.

[The Keeper]

"Why" idk I just ISOed him again and everything suddenly looks scummy, please help D: D:

Proof that I'm town:

This game means everything to me. I desperately want to catch both scumteams and prove that Invocation is the superior concept.

I believe Kawaii exposed himself by trying to save Rautherdir and that his posting after the wagon on him grew did not recognise it or attempt to defend himself from that wagon enough.

I have a useful, provable role that matches perfectly to an appropriate flavour name.

I have a few townreads and a scumpool.

This is all true.

#Winvocation

Say that again once I remove your bullhorn and soapbox...

Youve gone for political style statements. Nothing but hot air, no Soul and bound to be Forgotten.

[furtiveglance]

Furtive is scum.

Locked in never recind.

Even after a blue flip.

Wait til you hear my (fake?) claim...

[Aisa]

Hugir: slightly weaker than the other two in terms of town reads but their is a fluidity in their posting and their ease of direct town reads (includes my own ) that I have enjoyed plus I thought the attempt to clear Snakelet was + town.

I knew I was supposed to check out something about Hugir from Dan's towncase in them. Did not remember that it was the attempt to clear Snakelet.
Meh
I guess that if I squint it can be a little +town
I do think ease of direct town reads is a bit +town as well

But still not really convinced, don't see anything scum can't fake, still think this is a nullread for me at best

[Aisa]

I wonder if Flavor Leaf has anything from his catch up?

[Aisa]

2 days and a few hours to go
Hmmmm

[Aisa]

I'm thinking that Kawaii is approaching the 72 hours mark where they would be replaced. How would we react to a replacement? Would they replace into the game only to be asked to claim and get eliminated anyway? I guess that's a risk. But they could also replace into the game and be really obvtown or something. But who would we wagon then? Intriguing what seems like the majority lack of interest in an alternative wagon so far.

[Abnegation]

if kawaii gets in here before they get replaced, i'd absolutely like a claim.

[Aisa]

Yeah, even if you think that Kawaii's slot is so lost no claim is going to save them, at least knowing their N1 actions if any could be useful at some faraway point in the future

[Abnegation]

kawaii, i know you're online, you're at e-1 and we want a claim.

[KawaiiKame]

I am Extroversion, I vacuum people

[Abnegation]

what does vacuuming do?

[Abnegation]

is that a neighbourizer?

[Aisa]

Our neighbourhood is called a "vacuum", yes