I'd like to know when this changed.In post 476, Doctor Drew wrote:Anything about Red that jumps out to you? Personally I have them up there with T3(obvs) and DV as solid town reads(maybe Miti as well).In post 474, Tchill13 wrote:More so I think im not perfect and assuming that im wrong somewhere and I feel I'd be most wrong with redff.In post 471, Doctor Drew wrote:You think Red could be scum?In post 459, Tchill13 wrote: I'm OK with Mala, dess, kop... Maybe drew....mayyybe bristep being scum. Personally I think the whole group is in that list. If I'm wrong about anyone it's redff but I don't think so.
Also, kinda feel that Mala would be more engaged as scum. Kind of seems to not fully to be paying attention, feel like scum would be more cognisant of that.
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Funnily enough. If Drew is actually a PR I'd assume they interacted with bristep at some point well given drew pushed bristep pretty hard consistently.In post 510, Doctor Drew wrote: I still haven't liked Bristeps logic Re: The NK and how it relates to Dessew. Starting to think there is some connective tissue there. I like making the elim between them.
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It is only day 3 correct? So... Red is making a big deal over hiding the results of... One night action. One.
I need Drew's and red's night one results and why that player was targeted.-
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Up until this point drew does not indicate a change of his town read stance on red according to there ISO.In post 651, Doctor Drew wrote: I was waiting for T3 to say who they targeted.
I have proof that red is scum.
I tracked red to Miti.
VOTE: red-
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Dess, Drew, bristep and kop are all still in the game. These were people at the bottom to mid tier of red's latest read list before the end of day 2.
Idk how "likely" it is they chose drew. Correctly. Out of 4 options. When DREW was the scum that made the night kill.-
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If drew had shown a natural progression from TR'ing red to scum reading red then I'd actually be more enclined to believe drew here.
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Mala just died right this last night phase right? So make that 5 options technically. Cus red could have targeted Mala who then died.In post 679, Tchill13 wrote: Dess, Drew, bristep and kop are all still in the game. These were people at the bottom to mid tier of red's latest read list before the end of day 2.
Idk how "likely" it is they chose drew. Correctly. Out of 4 options. When DREW was the scum that made the night kill.-
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Drew has already said they tracked DV on night 1. Tracking Red makes no sense, waiting for T3’s confirmation on their shot makes no sense, RedFF fake claiming without provocation makes no sense given that a mis-elim, scum kill and t3 shooting town again would win scum the game tonight. A fake claim guarantees a 4th day.-
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But t3 isn't gonna shoot again if someone flips town here.
Vigs have the option to not shoot correct?
Even if they didn't the vig would shoot the opposite of red/drew if the other was voted out today and flipped town.
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Bristep you ever seen a VT fake claim with no provocation? I have.-
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It is interesting to me that drew is more forthcoming with info than red.-
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Red didn’t track, that was Drew’s claim. Red said he got a guilty on Drew which I assume means investigator - meaning Drew didn’t need to be the one to kill to get the result.In post 679, Tchill13 wrote: Dess, Drew, bristep and kop are all still in the game. These were people at the bottom to mid tier of red's latest read list before the end of day 2.
Idk how "likely" it is they chose drew. Correctly. Out of 4 options. When DREW was the scum that made the night kill.-
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Ah. That's a good point bristep.
That means IF TRUE drew has a not guilty on someone night one. And he's not telling us about that. So if we were to vote out drew and red die. That's info town is missing. Very helpful info as its a hard clear.
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I haven't done anything "questionable" lol-
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Well you definitely aren't hiding another hard guilty from us from night 1.
So idk what the hold up is. Unless you're night 1 action is conveniently someone who already flipped town. Then I have a problem due to how you've gone about this.-
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Big egos ruin the game. "I got all the info I'm gonna hold town hostage and call the shots". Or.... The even bigger egos... "Yeah I knew drum was scum. That's why I faked a guilty on him. Dangerous play but ya know my reads are that good so it's whatever".-
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So many posts!
Ok, so no I haven’t seen a vt fake claim without provocation but my experience is limited and I can absolutely see someone trying it. It’s panicky and hella dumb though which I don’t see in Red’s ISO. Drew seems to panic a bit, he did it when Dess and I separately noted concern about him - immediately accusing us of a coordinated attack which given my ISO was unlikely since I pushed Dess for nearly the whole of D2.
Panicking and counterclaiming something that guarantees their demise fits with that.
Drew hasn’t got a guilty on D1, he claimed to track DV and said they went nowhere.
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Drew claiming a guilty track on me removes the chance that i am a lying VT. Its either im scum or hes scum at this point.
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this is absurd ALL YOU CAN HAVE IS A NON GUILTY. it literally can only help town. My gosh man.-
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Thats just not true.In post 693, Tchill13 wrote: this is absurd ALL YOU CAN HAVE IS A NON GUILTY. it literally can only help town. My gosh man.-
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In post 644, T3 wrote:
generally if someone says they have reasons for not fullclaiming, it's best to take it at face value and trust themIn post 640, Tchill13 wrote: I'm not voting there today. No way. Not until you explain yourself.-
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yeah t3 has killed as many town as scum has. Greeaat place to run to for advice.
t3 is singlehandedly more detrimental to town than scum is.-
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So tchill, you think im scum faking a guilty on doctor drew? Why would i do that?
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