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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:27 am

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In post 49, petapan wrote: the expressed reasoning was that it feels like he knows the answer but wants to appear solvey
Ehhh... This one doesn't really get that impression in the first place, but also scum probably weren't told about the power-up beforehand (there really isn't a need to when it gets announced to everyone at the start of the day) and even if they were they'd probably get the same description of it's effect.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:27 am

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It just seems like reading into things a bit too much?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:28 am

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In post 50, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 49, petapan wrote: the expressed reasoning was that it feels like he knows the answer but wants to appear solvey
Ehhh... This one doesn't really get that impression in the first place, but also scum probably weren't told about the power-up beforehand (there really isn't a need to when it gets announced to everyone at the start of the day) and even if they were they'd probably get the same description of it's effect.
i don't really wanna quibble over it because it's dunn's logic and not mine but i was asked specifically about his thoughts so i provided that answer
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:30 am

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Fair enough.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:31 am

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VOTE: Jingle

Kinda weird that you just rephrase my already asked questions and call it skipping beating around the bush.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:32 am

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As an aside, I actually just saw the Mario Movie yesterday, so this being the theme is rather fortuitous
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:34 am

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In post 54, Radical Rat wrote: Kinda weird that you just rephrase my already asked questions and call it skipping beating around the bush.
Except that your question doesn't clarify whether a split vote double voter would cause a single hammer or a double hammer and would thus require a follow up question.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:37 am

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The Fire Flower functions as a single double vote - it can be moved around but it cannot be split. The player with the power up may also choose to single vote like normal.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:38 am

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I'd have assumed two simultaneous votes can create two simultaneous hammers, and further assumed that if that were not the case Cakez would clarify it when answering.

Doesn't really hurt to have that extra level of assurance, just the way you framed it struck me as peculiar
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:39 am

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In post 57, SirCakez wrote:
The Fire Flower functions as a single double vote - it can be moved around but it cannot be split. The player with the power up may also choose to single vote like normal.
Yeah, in this case definitely not worth actually using. RIP D1 hero solve victory chances
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:40 am

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In post 59, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 57, SirCakez wrote:
The Fire Flower functions as a single double vote - it can be moved around but it cannot be split. The player with the power up may also choose to single vote like normal.
Yeah, in this case definitely not worth actually using. RIP D1 hero solve victory chances
We should still probably give it to
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:41 am

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I DID assume it was a traditional doublevote (Like it apparently is), but when you pointed out that it might actually serve a purpose, I felt getting the mech speak completely out of the way as quickly as possible was the right thing to do. What do you think about wgeurts?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:42 am

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In post 60, HighPrincessErinys wrote: We should still probably give it to someone, right?
Why?

It doesn't do anything and just bloats the thread to do so.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:43 am

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In post 60, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 59, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 57, SirCakez wrote:
The Fire Flower functions as a single double vote - it can be moved around but it cannot be split. The player with the power up may also choose to single vote like normal.
Yeah, in this case definitely not worth actually using. RIP D1 hero solve victory chances
We should still probably give it to
someone
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To what end? D1 reads generally aren't super great because... D1. If Scum gets it that's obviously bad, and if Town gets it there's a very high chance of it just doing more harm than good.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:44 am

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Mm, guess so. R.I.P. to D1's gimmick then, it supposes.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:45 am

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In post 61, Jingle wrote: I DID assume it was a traditional doublevote (Like it apparently is), but when you pointed out that it might actually serve a purpose, I felt getting the mech speak completely out of the way as quickly as possible was the right thing to do. What do you think about wgeurts?
I think they feel somewhat performative in their posting, but haven't drawn any alignment conclusions relating to that yet.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:55 am

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In post 49, petapan wrote:
In post 46, HighPrincessErinys wrote: This isn't too sure it uh... sees how that's scummy?
In post 48, Adorable wrote:
In post 45, petapan wrote:
In post 44, Jingle wrote: LLD has never not scumread me and also we literally just swept a town together, it's not very impressive.

Koba wants to know what Dunn thinks.
dunn also thought one of your posts was scummy (). he actually said this before i voted you but i wasn't reading the chat
Can you elaborate on why was that post of his scummy? When I had a look at it I wasn't able to see how was it scummy.
the expressed reasoning was that it feels like he knows the answer but wants to appear solvey
I'm not able to tell if Jingle was faking it or not and I could see it go either way.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:57 am

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If no one wants the double vote power up then I'll be willing to take it.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:00 am

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I specifically want no one to have it.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:03 am

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I am also on team no one gets it
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:04 am

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i would give adorable the doublevote
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:10 am

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In post 62, Jingle wrote:
In post 60, HighPrincessErinys wrote: We should still probably give it to someone, right?
Why?

It doesn't do anything and just bloats the thread to do so.
What does that mean by bloats the thread?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:13 am

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In post 60, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 59, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 57, SirCakez wrote:
The Fire Flower functions as a single double vote - it can be moved around but it cannot be split. The player with the power up may also choose to single vote like normal.
Yeah, in this case definitely not worth actually using. RIP D1 hero solve victory chances
We should still probably give it to
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:13 am

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In post 71, Adorable wrote:
In post 62, Jingle wrote:
In post 60, HighPrincessErinys wrote: We should still probably give it to someone, right?
Why?

It doesn't do anything and just bloats the thread to do so.
What does that mean by bloats the thread?
Presumably from people voting for who gets it? But that feels like a kinda moot point tbh, who really cares about some extra posts for power-up votes. My real concern is what RR brought up in that even on town it's gonna be a double-edged sword.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:22 am

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In post 71, Adorable wrote: What does that mean by bloats the thread?
It explicitly doesn't have any use for town and any discussion about who we should give it to is a waste of time. In a different game, the best use of a doublevoter is to use it once to confirm it exists and then never use it again because it taints VCA. We've already confirmed it exists, so we can safely just... not give a shit about the role and instead do actual AI indicative things instead of having a big mechanical red herring for scum to hide behind.
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