so first page, click announcing they going vla so wagoning him is scummy then shows up to comment again - meh - like the tiny tiny tiny tiny stress in click, I can see u
firebringer writing poems - oki
In post 29, DragonEater70 wrote:
VOTE: Firebringer
I really don't enjoy their entrance and I dare say it's possibly scummy.
In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
[The cowboy doesn't find BlueSnakelet story very convincing]
Cowboy: You don't know how you know her name but don't know how you remember it. That seems very fishy. Where were you and What were you doing this morning?
In post 42, DragonEater70 wrote:
Btw I am gonna say GiF is my first townlean here, for no reason in particular except vibe.
Pocketed
gut is fine. rvs is for gut mainly. and seeing someone going try hard like fb
In post 48, DragonEater70 wrote:
Wait is this going to be the first game where I am being consensus townread on page 2?
Rather than consensus scumread on that page, that is.
Not town reading you at all actually if it helps
not sure why would you think about how others are percieving you at this stage of game
In post 48, DragonEater70 wrote:
Wait is this going to be the first game where I am being consensus townread on page 2?
Rather than consensus scumread on that page, that is.
Hold up, who is townreading you on page 2? I went back and checked and didn't see it.
LAMIST = look at me I'm so townie. Titus used an old trick with that post to Shea. Asserted being town and pressed for town reads. Many people reading that would feel pressured to respond, and the premise that Shea thinks Titus is town would be passively accepted.
There's also an angle there that Titus is capable of and would play as scum: tagging her partner to get them engaged in the game, and doing so in a way that looks like she is trying to pocket them, so that if she gets roped, the partner looks good on the later re-read.
I'm also concerned that Titus suggested I was sidestepping, especially after my first post.
In post 331, Klick wrote:
Because people like you aren't going to like it!
why do you think I disliked it? I just noted its existence. it doesn't give me any kind of info either way. that's why asked about what was behind the post in his thought process
I actually have more read on your tr on it than I have on the original read itself. (leaning toward the dislike category)
pedit: his going after blue for the titus thingy was what I called try harding on page 2 IMO I don't care about his rp
In post 291, Drixx wrote:FB, Kuribo, Dunn and TSQ all seem town to me. I don't like Klick's ISO, most especially the re-entry from VLA.
I'm still on V/LA
Okay. But there's a clear 220 post gap after you announced V/LA, and you clearly made a re-entry with a few posts in a row, and they were bad. Responding with "I'm still on V/LA" is disingenuous at best.
In post 324, Titus wrote:
Black, I straight up don't tolerate people pumping me while refusing to give info themselves.
What is pumping? And I think I have given some information already and it's disingenuous of you to say I haven't. Your issue seems to be I'm not giving you the exact info you want, and I already explained why I haven't
Titus wrote:I have asked you for ANY fixed positions for ages and I keep getting responses that they later.
You asked me for my "townblock" on page 6. I'm not the type of player to have many reads that early, let alone a block of them
I'll share my thoughts when I feel like it but I definitely don't respond well to people demanding them
In post 291, Drixx wrote:FB, Kuribo, Dunn and TSQ all seem town to me. I don't like Klick's ISO, most especially the re-entry from VLA.
I'm still on V/LA
Okay. But there's a clear 220 post gap after you announced V/LA, and you clearly made a re-entry with a few posts in a row, and they were bad. Responding with "I'm still on V/LA" is disingenuous at best.
LAMIST = look at me I'm so townie. Titus used an old trick with that post to Shea. Asserted being town and pressed for town reads. Many people reading that would feel pressured to respond, and the premise that Shea thinks Titus is town would be passively accepted.
There's also an angle there that Titus is capable of and would play as scum: tagging her partner to get them engaged in the game, and doing so in a way that looks like she is trying to pocket them, so that if she gets roped, the partner looks good on the later re-read.
I'm also concerned that Titus suggested I was sidestepping, especially after my first post.
In post 97, Feysal wrote:
Now, what else have we here? Firebringer taking the movie theme maybe a little too seriously, whatever.
But I'm not all that fond of just brazenly declaring you're unhappy for not being scum.
Dunnstral is asking questions and means business, like that.
Dragon entered sounding kind of aggressive?
Not sure what to make of that yet.
Oh, I did have a thought which might be beneficial, and games where doing this would make sense are few and far between.
In this setup, there are no true power roles. Everyone is equal. Even if you die with a power role, someone else may randomly get it the next day. How does everyone feel about a day one massclaim?
do you think the colored one was an act/could be an act?
elaborate red one
and about blue line mech wise this will actually lead to the current game powers being known/probably scum has utility to somehow mess with the roles when they know whats in play?
I see no point in mass claim. you think mod forgot to give scum proper ways of fake claiming and setup breaks with massclaim in a switching roles like how it is in this setup?
how I read a suggestion of mass claim? goofy
I don't think its actually scummy by nature that you suggested this but I really wanna know your thought process to reach this conclusion
In post 275, DragonEater70 wrote:
Guys I re-read FB vs Dunn and honestly I've been scumreading both, but now I want to individually TR each one of them for making a good push on a scummy slot.
I'm honestly confused.
Talk to me about Dunn's read on Black. Do you agree with it?
That's a very good question. I think I definitely have a slight townlean on Black, but for a different reason than Dunn. So I don't think Dunn's read is far-fetched or anything.
In post 275, DragonEater70 wrote:
Guys I re-read FB vs Dunn and honestly I've been scumreading both, but now I want to individually TR each one of them for making a good push on a scummy slot.
I'm honestly confused.
Okay, so my primary thoughts are that Dunnstral is not acting in this game in a sorting capacity, I think this is best seen in the early questions he came in with. The way he handled interactions with me was also weird and I try to wrap my brain around it because they don't make sense to me much completely in a town or scum dunnstral world but the focus to me wasn't figuring out my alignment and I think overall distraction.
Wish I could blame it on chatgpt but i wrote it all myself.
I am going to intermittently continue the scene because i didn't get the role pm i wanted and i am going to have to fun somehow
What does this mean? Did you read the setup?
Okay so I don't see the purpose in this question at all. The idea here i guess from Dunnstral is he thinks I didn't read the setup, I don't know what this tells a town or scum dunnstral if I did or didn't. I have not read setups beforea s both alignments. Dunn might or might not be aware of me favoring scum (i would think he should know with all our games together) but lets say he doesn't.
So what does this serve? To me this looks like seeing if he can see what i know of the setup to push me for it depending on the response. It doesn't look like sorting because what knowledge of my setup would help him sort as town, we are amnesiacs, we don't know the setup. So its either role fishing or psuedo trap to see if he can push me possibly under pretense of a 'scum slip', that last part might uncharitable here. But to me this question serves nothing of hunting. I don't think this is dunn trying to sort me unless magically he thinks scum me knows the full setup or something and i outed something about not getting the PRs (which i think are probably mostly hidden from scum too..again what does this serve)
In post 48, DragonEater70 wrote:
Wait is this going to be the first game where I am being consensus townread on page 2?
Rather than consensus scumread on that page, that is.
Hold up, who is townreading you on page 2? I went back and checked and didn't see it.
I think the concern on who is townreading who is more of a scum concern. More mental notes taken of who is reading each other what for purpose of knowing where people stand. I also think this shows a lack of attention to the details here which I think is more easily to happen with scum. This one felt a bit less scummy because not paying attention can happen to anyone but the focus of who is reading u like that seems more of a scum concern.
Their first post, 28, gives me that feeling. After that they banter for a bit and then in post 44 seem to say "what's the point of theme games" in response to someone else not liking roleplay. I feel this is a weird stance to have as usually this kind of thing is not present in theme games. I'm not sure where BlueSnakelet is coming from here.
This was after my vote but was pretty damning and most content dunn has made. I have yet to bring it up. I thought snek was the easiest person to push in this game and feel like scum Dunn took the bait here going for him. But even the way its argued doesn't show me hunting beyond someone is being awkward. The weird stance that someone is making about themes? How is this a scum mindset Dunnstral? He also ends it with saying not sure where snek is coming from but yet doesn't pursue it to ask Snek questions of what he is thinking or where thoughts are. Theres no curiosity there. Its not hunting. Its X is awkward and here is a weird take.
Okay thats it for me now. Now i go play more mad games tycoon 2
Also on rethinking of the Dunn v FB, I think that Dunn's vote was justified. On the other hand, FB's scumcase is based on something that IS scummy on Dunn's part, but could easily be pushed by scum and therefore doesn't warrant a TR on FB.
Therefore I am no longer TRing FB for pushing Dunn, and am gonna probably vote FB (after I finish the catchup).
For noe though I'll UNVOTE:
In post 122, Black wrote:
I would argue Dragon didn't seem to care about RVS much either. I feel like both of their entrances could be considered "aggressive with a disregard for RVS" so I just wanted to see why Dunnstral got the pass.
It was a difference in tone. Dunnstral was asking questions, but Dragon seemed angry at Firebringer for the act and voted them for it.
this "anger" is based on the vote they put? how is a vote showing "anger" to you? you think they cant be just thinking what FB was doing was pro scum and it was an emotional vote?
In post 146, Feysal wrote:
Might as well explain where I was going with this, since I just learned my idea would not work. I wondered if the mafia would be told which amnesiac roles had been assigned to them, even if they would not get to use them. But I asked, and they are told, so no such luck. Would have been too good to be true.
Is feysal experienced enough as a scum player to fake this? anyone has meta with them?
In post 239, kuribo wrote:
Kinda iffy on dragoneater, the whole "lol why is everyone townreading me" was kinda weird on page two when that wasn't a thing
why is it you can respond to everyone but me?
don't be scared I don't bite
I mean, I absolutely do bite
I honestly somehow missed your post completely? I am gonna read it in a few minutes, but I have to say I don't really understand what kind of response you looking for? You haven't really asked me a question.
In post 162, Firebringer wrote:
Maybe Dunnstral is town and Fey is just giving free town points to Dunn for some reason. That take on dunns questions is just baffling to me.
alisae says it was a nothing statement to say about those questions, i agree. Like how and what does those questions you think is sorting other players from Dunnstral? You gave me nothing on how it is just that it is.
I think Fey was saying Dunn is doing things = townie. Like as an easy freebie read to give out to someone he knows is town i guess and didn't think anyone would question it?
VOTE: Feysal
I don't agree with shea early statement though on the whole bringing up the mass claiming was scummy. As a counter point to my own now push on Feysal, i think going for full claim or not and how to play the mechanic game is more a philisophical uestion of mafia and usually not alignment telling.
I don't believe Feysal read on Dunnstral
I actually like this post. I don't think feysal is building up to make a read. they just dropping them and not just the dunn one. I also don't feel like I get the "ice dragon is angry so voted FB" thing at all. it all just feels so shallow and with 0 try for actual sorting it - like from an informed perspective
then again the mass claim and recalling it as "oh I checked with mod and game is not breakable cause scum will have fake claims" is so weird too. like I can see a scum planning on acting like they wanted to break setup but they cant but it feels so obvious that its a fake act that it makes me doubt if its actually real at this point. so I prefer to know meta on this
In post 167, Thestatusquo wrote:
I think fb would be playing this game differently as scum, but also I like REALLY don't like the ali stuff.
you doing like it as you don't agree with it or you think is faked somehow? can you elaborate
