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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:22 pm

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In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

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Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:22 pm

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wait no ythan it was this one

this is basically k-on right?????
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:22 pm

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In post 24, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 22, Alisae wrote:
In post 18, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 14, Alisae wrote: why do you think wolves picked 6?
wolves plural? I don't, or at least, if they did it's a gambit and I'm happy to call the bluff killing there day 1 and leaving it on the table

Wolf singular? Because in this game where 3 numbers overlap in pick, it's pretty likely there is at least one scum in the grouping.
so like, what is this based on?
History of this game, statistics, number picking logic...

it's not 100% but nothing is, but it's significantly increased.
I don't get it
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:22 pm

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In post 20, Alisae wrote:
In post 16, Ythan wrote: Hello friends!
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:24 pm

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it sounds arbitrary but I mean it's RVS we don't really have much to go off of so I don't care too much tbh.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:24 pm

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In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

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Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:25 pm

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In post 27, Alisae wrote:
In post 24, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 22, Alisae wrote:
In post 18, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 14, Alisae wrote: why do you think wolves picked 6?
wolves plural? I don't, or at least, if they did it's a gambit and I'm happy to call the bluff killing there day 1 and leaving it on the table

Wolf singular? Because in this game where 3 numbers overlap in pick, it's pretty likely there is at least one scum in the grouping.
so like, what is this based on?
History of this game, statistics, number picking logic...

it's not 100% but nothing is, but it's significantly increased.
I don't get it
okay, so do you know why my team was able to predict that we should never pick 6?

Because 6 is the single most picked number in PYP history. The literal last game of this that was run I was scum in even included multiple people on 6s.

When 3 players end up on the same number, and that number is famously known for being highly picked, it's very likely there is one scum in the list if not 2 doing a scum gambit that has HAPPENED IN TEAM MAFIA BEFORE (Faraday and Hoopla did it).

Even from a statistical model, 3 people picking the same number contains scum a large percent of the time.

And finally, killing on the bottom end of the draft pool reduces scum's opportunity to learn our roles by pressuring our top end, forcing a clam and backing off and then forcing another claim, a strategy I employed as scum literally 2 months ago when I last played this game as scum and nearly won.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:26 pm

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In post 26, Alisae wrote: wait no ythan it was this one

this is basically k-on right?????
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:26 pm

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Bert? Lol
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:26 pm

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In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

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Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:27 pm

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So why would wolves want to opt for 6?
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:28 pm

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In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.
Show me where you explained before my post then.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:29 pm

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tbh I feel like all of the players who picked 6 are super readable.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:29 pm

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In post 35, Alisae wrote: So why would wolves want to opt for 6?
if 2 wolves, they're gambiting that there isn't more than 1 wolf in a pile when wolves get to group draft together, which can bring wolves to endgame.

If 1 wolf, they're either: a)on a team that is somehow unaware of this historical fact b) part of a scumteam that is spreading out in a specific way or c) expecting others to be aware of this history and avoid 6, given meta.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:30 pm

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In post 36, Ythan wrote:
In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.
Show me where you explained before my post then.
Ah yes, that old chestnut of you asking me on the TOP OF PAGE FUCKING 2 to explain in EXTENSIVE DETAIL something I am explaining truthfully and fielding questions about AS YOU POST IT.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:30 pm

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This is a really aggressive opening if lady is scum. Feeling kinda townie to me with the excited theory. I should sleep but I do love reading game openings that are moving this fast.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm

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ok ya I'm just going to wait for them to post
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm

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In post 39, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 36, Ythan wrote:
In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it, and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.
Show me where you explained before my post then.
Ah yes, that old chestnut of you asking me on the TOP OF PAGE FUCKING 2 to explain in EXTENSIVE DETAIL something I am explaining truthfully and fielding questions about AS YOU POST IT.
But you just said you did explain it...
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm

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I'm literally having the conversation YOU AND I SHOULD BE HAVING given you're voting me with ALISAE who is NOT VOTING ME.

And I don't get why I'm having that talk with Alisae and not you. Is it ego? Have I wounded your ego by explaining somethign you don't understand and now you're like "it feels wrong and it's too late to go back so I'm gonna be defensive?"
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:32 pm

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I caught Marashu before and Imaginality I think I can get a good read on. Last time I played with him I pushed him as low hanging fruit and railroaded his elim extremely quickly.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:32 pm

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In post 42, Ythan wrote:
In post 39, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 36, Ythan wrote:
In post 34, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 30, Ythan wrote:
In post 25, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 23, Ythan wrote: VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

The argument you are making does not make any sense to me.

<3
Just because you're not capable of understanding the math and history behind this open setup that leads to this logic being correct does not make it not correct.

Nor does your lack of understanding it make me scum.
From my perspective it looks like you're full of shit though and you aren't actually explaining any of this math/history/logic in a way that makes me feel differently!
I'm literally explaining it,
and you're literally not engaging with the explinations.

You're just saying "it doesn't make sense and you're not explaining" which is an incredibly frustrating way to go about this.

If you don't understand, ask and assess then, instead of whatever this assumption shit is.
Show me where you explained before my post then.
Ah yes, that old chestnut of you asking me on the TOP OF PAGE FUCKING 2 to explain in EXTENSIVE DETAIL something I am explaining truthfully and fielding questions about AS YOU POST IT.
But you just said
you did explain it...
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:33 pm

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I'm not being defensive?? You're being like extremely defensive though. Are we reading the same game????
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:33 pm

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In post 44, Alisae wrote: I caught Marashu before and Imaginality I think I can get a good read on. Last time I played with him I pushed him as low hanging fruit and railroaded his elim extremely quickly.
Cool so help me put some pressure on Imaginality and we'll get a read there together. Apologies if I'm not willing to trust someone in the 6s as the sole arbiter of reading that player. That requires me to townread you and you know that's not happening strongly day 1 basically ever.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:34 pm

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In post 46, Ythan wrote: I'm not being defensive?? You're being like extremely defensive though. Are we reading the same game????
You literally are. I'm literally attacking you for poking me about this instead of asking me questions to sort whether I'm right or not, and you're giving me bullshit reasons why you're not doing it, including CHANGING THE TENSING OF MY POST TO SUIT YOUR NEEDS which is hyper frustrating.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:34 pm

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Just dropping out of retirement to nail LLD on page one of team mafia???

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