TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

[Ythan]

I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!

Yes, and yet you have provided zero context for what that reaction is supposed to be.

It just feels like you have this ego trip and you don't want to be wrong because being wrong will mean you did something ridiculous and you can't have that can you.

Wrong. I told you I disbelieved that you would interpret my posts as intended to tilt you.

And I gave you like 3 reasons why I would, and you ignored that.

It's fine to not believe me, no actually it's not this whole fucking take of yours is so unreally beyond the pale.

but even if you don't believe me you're not progressing or responding at ALL

I don't believe you. Sometimes your arguments are not going to be compelling enough to change people's minds.

So your plan is to pretend to engage with me while having 0 chance of actually being convinced while tunnelling me all game?

I told you why I think you're lying and you just keep repeating this same tired refrain. Shouting the same refrain loud enough long enough is not going to help. You keep talking about my ego but can you chill the fuck out trying to dictate that I have to believe everything you say thanks.

[Ythan]

Oops I says refrain twice.

[Ythan]

God damn it lol

[Ythan]

Y'all I use Swype

[Lady Lambdadelta]

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3 6s, Brassherald is scum in it.

I'm literally just going down the fucking list of games at this point.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I already told you the reaction had surpassed the initial motivation of the vote!

Yes, and yet you have provided zero context for what that reaction is supposed to be.

It just feels like you have this ego trip and you don't want to be wrong because being wrong will mean you did something ridiculous and you can't have that can you.

Wrong. I told you I disbelieved that you would interpret my posts as intended to tilt you.

And I gave you like 3 reasons why I would, and you ignored that.

It's fine to not believe me, no actually it's not this whole fucking take of yours is so unreally beyond the pale.

but even if you don't believe me you're not progressing or responding at ALL

I don't believe you. Sometimes your arguments are not going to be compelling enough to change people's minds.

So your plan is to pretend to engage with me while having 0 chance of actually being convinced while tunnelling me all game?

I told you why I think you're lying and you just keep repeating this same tired refrain. Shouting the same refrain loud enough long enough is not going to help. You keep talking about my ego but can you chill the fuck out trying to dictate that I have to believe everything you say thanks.

then don't engage with it.

I'm doing my own thing, you're the one who asked "are you still doing this because of me"

you're the one who keeps re-engaging to have the last word

[Bellaphant]

Why would scum do a thing that focuses the lim pool on them tho? Especially if scum know you are in the game

[Lady Lambdadelta]

let me have the last word or admit this isn't about anythign but your ego

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why would scum do a thing that focuses the lim pool on them tho? Especially if scum know you are in the game

Do you think scum know they're going to be tripled up when they pick?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

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counter example, 3 of a number, all town. Scum all played the "we pick big numbers" strategy though, so that's theoretically somethign.

[Ythan]

I'm just gonna quote that at you every time you talk from now on if that's okay.

If the whole concept here is you're just gonna do this for the rest of the game I'm just going to do that.

Making excuses

[Lady Lambdadelta]

cause I'm comfortable enough to admit this is largely about my ego at this point

i want to prove you wrong

[Alisae]

am I going to have to deal with ythan v lld all game?

[imaginality]

I agree with LLD's broader point about not pushing the top draft order too early. Though, it's a risk reward thing because if someone near the top is scum then they could have a role that could be worse for us if they get to use it (e.g. vig). But it seems reasonable to give them a ride through D1 at least.

I still don't get why LLD, if you think scum are gonna gambit by pairing, they'd do it on a number you say is the most likely to be picked, compared to a different number. But I don't get why you see the number distribution of "unique lowest" drafts to be relevant to this "unique median" draft anyhow.

In other news Rad feels town to me, 94 seemed to be genuinely trying to get a read on LLD.

Like now I want to tr alisea just for not shouting and sounding reasonable, and imaginality, a bit

Mood.
I was about to say the same about Bellaphont lol.

Seriously though, given the last game I was in scum won by basically outposting and talking over everyone else the whole game I am inclined to vote someone quicker this game if they are drowning out the game.

P-edit, yeah like Alisae said, make sure the interactions have value beyond "someone is wrong on the internet!"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm just gonna quote that at you every time you talk from now on if that's okay.

If the whole concept here is you're just gonna do this for the rest of the game I'm just going to do that.

Making excuses

You couldn't do it, could you? Couldn't let me have the last word, couldn't be the bigger woman and disengage, couldn't take your own advice.

I'm not making excuses. I'm pissed off and funelling that into trying to help town win this game.

One more chance, got it in you to disengage since you seem to think I'm lock scum and there's no changing your mind? Or will you ego respond for last word again?

And yes, this is baiting you, but I'm sincerely hoping you ARE the bigger woman because I really would like to not have to talk with someone who won't fucking even try with me.

[Alisae]

cause I'm comfortable enough to admit this is largely about my ego at this point

i want to prove you wrong

please stop
i'm annoyed
ME
I'M ANNOYED

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree with LLD's broader point about not pushing the top draft order too early. Though, it's a risk reward thing because if someone near the top is scum then they could have a role that could be worse for us if they get to use it (e.g. vig). But it seems reasonable to give them a ride through D1 at least.

I still don't get why LLD, if you think scum are gonna gambit by pairing, they'd do it on a number you say is the most likely to be picked, compared to a different number. But I don't get why you see the number distribution of "unique lowest" drafts to be relevant to this "unique median" draft anyhow.

In other news Rad feels town to me, 94 seemed to be genuinely trying to get a read on LLD.

Like now I want to tr alisea just for not shouting and sounding reasonable, and imaginality, a bit

Mood.
I was about to say the same about Bellaphont lol.

Seriously though, given the last game I was in scum won by basically outposting and talking over everyone else the whole game I am inclined to vote someone quicker this game if they are drowning out the game.

P-edit, yeah like Alisae said, make sure the interactions have value beyond "someone is wrong on the internet!"

If they do gambit on pairing, a number likely to be picked is the best place to do it. More people to hide within. They know they're already burnign their pick order to do it, right? So isn't it better to have more meat shields not less?

[Bellaphant]

...didn't you just say the opposite? This convo is now so far past pointless

[Bellaphant]

Also, this whole thing has made me less want to elim two of the sixes.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Marashu
LLD this one

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: Marashu
LLD this one

Sure, why not. I agree with your assessment, for the most part.

Vote: Marashu

[Ythan]

I'm not going to ignore questions and statements she directs to me. Do you honestly expect me to??

I feel like you should if you think she's a wolf or if you're not willing to be open-minded about it.

If you think you can provide one example of a post where I indicated that I was not willing to be open-minded to the possibility that I am wrong then I would love to see it, otherwise idk what you're getting at.

[Alisae]

I'm not going to ignore questions and statements she directs to me. Do you honestly expect me to??

I feel like you should if you think she's a wolf or if you're not willing to be open-minded about it.

If you think you can provide one example of a post where I indicated that I was not willing to be open-minded to the possibility that I am wrong then I would love to see it, otherwise idk what you're getting at.

No you can stop if you want it isn't really impacting my view of what you said at game start, which is a separate thing from the elaboration you are doing now after the fact. I apologize I expect that will be frustrating.

[Ythan]

Lld I hope you're not still posting those for my sake because I've already explained to you why it is irrelevant to my vote. You can't just keep posting summaries of games and expect that to be relevant. Is there some other purpose? Are you just looking busy??

I am fucking proving my fucking point.

Just because you're too fucking stuck up your own arse to understand how statistics works doesn't mean others aren't.

I'm doing it because fuck you and also because people might actually see a fucking pattern if I do this so

Okay could you please be a little less fucking hostile.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've got 3 games left from the wiki to go through.

2 of the 3 of them have a scum in the 3+ grouping, the last one is another town grouping.

So I'm looking at like, 75% of games, which was what I saw coming into the game too. Enough for there to be a LEGITIMATE CLAIM but not enough to like, just blindly follow.

Like I said.