In post 1154, Feysal wrote:I have a weak suspicion of Klick. I've played at least one game with him which I remember well, where he was scum. He gave out reads that were very light on reasons, including one town read on a partner, and it was that association tell that got his slot executed. The case he posted on Frozen Angel is also plausible coming from town, but I can't quite shake the feeling it might have been a good scum push.
I'm curious what game this was, or at least when it was. My play has changed very very significantly in the last 3-4 years compared to how it was before that time. I largely attribute this to growing up.
In post 1160, Thestatusquo wrote:
Klicks response to me is also weird because i think it actually is a Hallmark of scum to have too many town reads.
I think most conceptions of what 'scum' in the general do are insufficiently substantiated
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In post 1180, Thestatusquo wrote:
Klick do you think you're the kind of scum player who struggles to find town reads or struggles to find scum reads, generally speaking?
Your offhand response to me is really sticking in my brain.
As either alignment I find it easier to find and express townreads than scumreads.
In contrast, I find it easier to express scumreads when I'm scum than when I'm town. Because I know I have to push something that's false when I'm scum, whereas I am rarely confident enough that someone is scum to properly push them when I'm town.
The thing is that is exactly why I said your read list felt safe to me.
You have a lot of people in the town bin and a few people in the scum bin who other people have put in the work to scum read already. It didn't seem like you were interested in breaking new ground at all and it felt like you weren't trying to ruffle any feathers.
In post 1184, Klick wrote:
In contrast, I find it easier to express scumreads when I'm scum than when I'm town. Because I know I have to push something that's false when I'm scum, whereas I am rarely confident enough that someone is scum to properly push them when I'm town.
@klick what does my content being soulless even mean?!
you can ask me questions about any of my reads if you believe I don't believe it
@Thestatusquo I literally have a conclusion part at end of each iso post. whatever I did before today was skimming and posting what came to my mind and today I went digging.
instead of using random words to just jump on my wagon, you all could try and engage with me on my clear and transparent reads.
Its so clear that you all are either being lazy with this wagon or have ulterior motives.
In post 1185, Thestatusquo wrote:
The thing is that is exactly why I said your read list felt safe to me.
You have a lot of people in the town bin and a few people in the scum bin who other people have put in the work to scum read already. It didn't seem like you were interested in breaking new ground at all and it felt like you weren't trying to ruffle any feathers.
Ask me about some of them, I have reasons for believing what I believe. Any seem interesting to you?
also titus dragon eater is the scummiest slot I have seen in this game.
You have to read what i wrote about him and engage about him with me instead of saying I think he is town cause of his first post (that I will fight you that is actually a very scummy opening)
you can ask me questions about any of my reads if you believe I don't believe it
Bahahaha I essentially just said the same thing to TSQ.
I don't have confidence in my ability to get meaningful conclusions for myself based on asking you questions about your reads. I don't think it would help me read you accurately.
I feel like you're putting a lot of brain energy into the thread, but I don't see evidence of belief and I don't think asking you about it will help me see that.
you can ask me questions about any of my reads if you believe I don't believe it
Bahahaha I essentially just said the same thing to TSQ.
I don't have confidence in my ability to get meaningful conclusions for myself based on asking you questions about your reads. I don't think it would help me read you accurately.
I feel like you're putting a lot of brain energy into the thread, but I don't see evidence of belief and I don't think asking you about it will help me see that.
so you think I'm actually thinking and evaluating stuff and you think that is more from my scum!me?
This makes no sense
I responded to both your meta read and and am doing concentrated work right now to sort the game and you just drop a vote on me cause I'm "soulless"? and now you're saying you don't even engage with me about my reads to evaluate if they are real or not but wanna still accuse they arent?
Also I am actually offended by this. from town or scum you. each of those ise reads took like 30 min to 1 hour
and its obvious you never read any of them before dropping this judgement cause literally 1/3rd of those posts is pure conclusions and evalutions if not more and its so out there for people to see that I cant in any universe believe anyone who read them would ever dare to say something so BS like this about them
I will continue my iso digs after dinner later on. if you guys felt you can actually try and sort me or wanna engage with me about my reads and not discredit them, feel free and I will be here to respond to your concerns
