Amnesiac Mafia: The Movie! That's a Wrap!

[Pink Ball]

Either you are a hypocrite and you’re doing the exact same thing that Titus is allegedly doing to you

Also I just want to say I disagree that these are similar situations. I feel like Titus is reading everything I say as scummy based on a weak meta read, but I'm not reading you over meta at all. Ig you could say my read on you is "weak" yeah, and I'll agree that it's similar there

I haven’t any sorting from your part towards me, I have only seen “Pink Ball activity is scummy”, then “wow what you just said is scummy”, then “I don’t know it still feels like Pink Ball is scummy”, and then when I called you out “oh wow why do you over react”.

[Black]

Got it. So I feel fake

[Firebringer]

If we wanted to summarize that into one word, sure. Sounds good to me.

[Black]

I haven’t any sorting from your part towards me, I have only seen “Pink Ball activity is scummy”, then “wow what you just said is scummy”, then “I don’t know it still feels like Pink Ball is scummy”, and then when I called you out “oh wow why do you over react”.

Yeah I think I sort best when I engage, but it's hard for me to sort you when we engage bc it just gets angry fast. So I'm going to have to try something else

[Pink Ball]

[Black]

If we wanted to summarize that into one word, sure. Sounds good to me.

Is this a meta read?

[Firebringer]

If we wanted to summarize that into one word, sure. Sounds good to me.

Is this a meta read?

Not really

[Black]

I don't agree with this representation but cool meme

[Black]

If we wanted to summarize that into one word, sure. Sounds good to me.

Is this a meta read?

Not really

Well I couldn't tell you where the fake vibe comes from. My heart hasn't really been in the game but I've been keeping notes and trying to sort

This doesn't feel like a substantial scumread but I can't really argue against it

[Firebringer]

Are you concerned that ur townread is reading you wrong here or were you trying to understand my position to get a better read on me

[Klick]

This feels like me with like, several people atm

[Black]

A little both. I asked about the meta because I wanted to know if I was getting pushed for that again. And yeah I care if you SR me because I think its my duty to try and understand SRs on me to see where the disconnect is. There's sorting involved because if I don't think your reasons are good then it just feels opportunistic to go from me >> dragon >> back to me as pressure shifts. You're not locktown to me

[Firebringer]

Spicy answer. Didn't expect both.
Okay I think ur failing at both if your town

[Black]

Okay I think ur failing at both if your town

That wouldn't surprise me

[Frozen Angel]

Wow I haven't been here for a while. Sorryyyyy. Honestly I think my mind is melting due to IRL reasons and it makes me feel intimidated from playing this game which is all about brainpower. But I'll do my best to be more active here now.
Catching up now.

My team is scumreading Drixx and FA so I am gonna look at those two.

First question:

I pulled out the specific posts from DE which showed an inorganic progression of "reads" and strong opportunism, and I'm not sure if you caught/reacted to that?

Which posts are those?

"Your team" is scumreading me now huh? not you yourself specifically

who in your team is scumreading me?

and why didn't you still read/respond to my case on you?

[Frozen Angel]

You dropped a scumread on me (sheeping the person who dropped a completely random TR on you = klick with their meta read) before you vanished from game since then I had posted a case scumreading you, and then pinkball did.

but now someone else is scumreading me apparently in your team?

I find it really hard to believe.

can you explain what was klicks meta read on me in your own words?

[Frozen Angel]

FA tries to talk to you in post 1510
I tried to talk to you in 1561

Here is what I have to say about your posts:

Seeing PB do that kind of effort makes me think DragonEater70 may need to be info flipped.

Note haven't read details.

I disagree. That effort can come from scum, especially scum backed into a corner

And I think Dragon's responses to it have been townie so far

I don't think Dragon has responded to any of the points that I find compelling from PB, instead choosing to respond to some more technical details like that PB was faking a read. So I disagree here, I don't like the way they are responding right now.

And I still feel this way. I feel honed in on the confident thing and some other miscellaneous stuff but didn't really address what I felt was the main argument.

How many times people should bring up the cases and questions for you to notice/respond to them?

[Firebringer]

@black im really trying to avoid reading u as perspective of hollow knight cause A) that game i don't think is comparable to this B) i think that was ur first game, your definitely gonna be different here.

So like i don't think i have a fundamental of your baselines to get the good meta read case on you. Instead im relying on classic scumhunting of looking at your posts, trying to see what purpose of your posts are. And I don't see the purpose as really for the purpose of the scumhunting.

I can get i guess that your reads formation might be a slow meticulous process or something. Just the questioning seems wrong. The responses to people seems wrong. I think in general when someone comes at me with a scumread, I do not react in this kind of tone and questioning if im uncertain, i would be digging deeper and the questions are more pointed and specific to things im thinking. The tone and interactions also feel more to playing with the greater game than any one individual interactions.

Might help to break down specific examples but i think this interaction we just had is a decent one for how that is playing out.

[Klick]

"Your team" is scumreading me now huh? not you yourself specifically

who in your team is scumreading me?

Also very curious about this!

[Dunnstral]

I noticed that the read shifted to their teams read on FA too and tried to get them to acknowledge 494

[Black]

I think in general when someone comes at me with a scumread, I do not react in this kind of tone and questioning if im uncertain, i would be digging deeper and the questions are more pointed and specific to things im thinking.

With this I want to say that most if not all of my questions are pointed toward specific things I'm thinking, even if it's not clear. And as far as digging deeper...I think that goes into me not being into the game atm. My motivation to dive into this game has been a roller coaster

[Thestatusquo]

I am voting klick because every interaction I have with him feels like he's trying to make me stop talking.

He has explained this is because he feels I'm prodding at places he doesn't think are very worthwhile to solving but I have a problem with that answer too because I don't really think whether klick thinks my methods for solving are worthwhile really matters and frankly I think its kinda unresponsive to my overall point which is that he doesn't seem very interested in working with me or finding me either. It seems like he wants to get me to move on as quickly as possible whenever we talk.

I have roughly zero interest in voting dragoneater. I know people keep trying to minimize my dragoneater read but the ping for me was extremely strong and it is more than enough for me to not have any interest in limming dragon today.

I could be pretty easily persuaded on black but if I'm honest I feel like black has more townie points in her favor for me than klick. Klick might be just a difference of playstyles for me and I guess I'll probably feel bad if I'm reading this wrong but I feel talked down to and minimized literally every time we interact in a way that I more associate coming from scum who are trying to push me places they want me to go and not from town trying to work with me.

So that's about where I'm at.

I'm getting a pretty decent sized tattoo today so I won't be around much at all, but I'll be around to chat probably later in the evening.

[T-Bone]

Spoiler: Scene 11

[The setting is a dark alleyway. The Doctor, the Detective, the Chef, and the Professor are walking cautiously, looking around as if they are being followed.]

Detective: [whispering] I think we're being followed. Keep your eyes peeled, everyone.

Chef: [nervously] Why would someone be following us? Did we do something wrong?

Doctor: [calmly] It's possible that someone knows we're investigating the Voice and wants to stop us.

Professor: [looking over his shoulder] But who could it be? We haven't found any leads yet.

[As they continue down the alley, they suddenly hear footsteps behind them. They turn around to see a shadowy figure looming in the darkness.]

Figure: [in a menacing voice] Well, well, well. Look who we have here. The amateur detectives trying to solve the mystery.

Detective: [stepping forward] Who are you? What do you want?

Figure: [smirking] Let's just say I'm a friend of the Voice. And I don't take kindly to people who stick their noses where they don't belong.

Chef: [whispering] What are we going to do? We can't fight this guy.

Doctor: [quickly assessing the situation] We need to get out of here, now. Everyone, run!

[The group takes off in different directions, trying to lose the figure chasing them. They eventually make it back to their safehouse, shaken and scared, realizing that the Voice's influence is stronger than they ever could have imagined.]

Vote Count

DragonEater70 - 5

(Frozen Angel, Drixx, Feysal, Klick, Dunnstral)

Black - 4

(Pink Ball, GuyInFreezer, Firebringer, Titus)

Klick - 3

(Kuribo, Save The Dragons, Thestatusquo)

Drixx - 1

(Black)

Not Voting - 2

(DragonEater70, Ircher)

With 15 Alive, It Takes 8 to Eliminate

Activity Check:

All good!

Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-25 17:00:00)

[Save The Dragons]

Meanwhile I’m gonna add std to my townlist

[Save The Dragons]

korina thinks klick is town but odd at points and ceph i think just thinks klick is town so :/ im losing my taste for it

i'd rather do klick or drixx than black or dragoneater. cephy thinks pink ball's case on de is the best thing in the game but i'm not as convinced. cephy and i both hate the black wagon

if klick picks up i might go back but for now

VOTE: drixx