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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:16 am

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In post 2344, kuribo wrote: And no, it doesn't use secret encryption, it uses only stuff available as part of the game as outlined in the rules.
I maintain what I suggested is allowed by the rules, controversial though it may be. But fine, if you already have a system in place, I'll stop talking about this.
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:21 am

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In post 2348, Save The Dragons wrote: I'm more concerned you said your team sr Drixx but Drixx doesn't appear on the readlist you worked on with your team.
That is because he did not work on this with his team. He was not busy in real life either, he tried to lurk his way out of suspicion hoping we'd forget. But we didn't.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:21 am

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Mod Note: Locking the Thread Temporarily
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:46 pm

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Hi all, I locked the thread in response to post #2325. I was not clear, so I will make a clear statement. Please do not try to create any cryptography or code to try and prove or disprove the existence of any private communications in this game. This was the only post that violated this rule explicitly, so I needed to make it clear. If you have questions please PM me. I regret that this event has brought some out of game influence on the game, and mod influence on the game that was not intended. I ask that we move past this as best we can. Thank you!

I will add 6 hours to the deadline.
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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:48 pm

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Vote Count
DragonEater70 - 5
(Frozen Angel, Drixx, Feysal, Klick, Dunnstral)
Black - 4
(Pink Ball, GuyInFreezer, Firebringer, Titus)
Klick - 2
(Kuribo, Thestatusquo)
Drixx - 2
(Black, Save The Dragons)
Frozen Angel - 1
(DragonEater70)

Not Voting - 1
(Ircher)

With 15 Alive, It Takes 8 to Eliminate

Activity Check:
All good!

Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-25 23:00:00)
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:45 pm

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Anyone up??? I just arrived from a wedding going to bed now have to wake up in 3 hours for the baby I am NOT happy
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:46 pm

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It was nice to go out like pre baby though tomorrow will be terrible but problem for future Pink Ball
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:47 pm

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People voting Klick and Drixx should not be voting Klick or Drixx in my humble opinion
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:54 pm

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So alisae says feysal/kuribo/ircher all town
Whats new with you pinkie
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:36 pm

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I spent that peaceful time last night reevaluating some of my reads:

- I had some dissonance on Black where I read some specific responses as very towny but felt that her overall tone over long stretches of time felt scummy/different from Hollow Knight. So I had a skim through her ISO in all of her completed games to get a more full picture. I read Black fairly strongly as town from it. I think her content here reads as much more genuine than in any of her scum games. I understand having a general vibe that she's trying to perform a bit and was starting to feel that a bit myself, but I think she has moments in this game that are closer to how she genuinely approaches solving games than I've seen in her scum games.

- I think STD is town. I think is a really good post. I believe those takes from Korina and especially Ceph, and I believe STD's sort of disappointment in disagreeing about me being town. I don't see the scum motivation in the swap from myself to Drixx. I think only town!STD makes that post.

- I think CipherGate strongly indicates that Feysal is town. I think their enthusiasm is genuine and town-motivated and past the point that scum would choose to push it.

I've taken these reads and raised the bar for my already-existing reads to include only townreads that I'm very confident in (so Pink Ball and Frozen Angel), to create a PoE that I feel significantly better about than the PoE produced by my previous reads list.

TOWN
Pink Ball
Frozen Angel
Save The Dragons
Black
Feysal

MASONS
kuribo
Ircher

POE
DragonEater70
Drixx
Dunnstral
Firebringer
GuyInFreezer
Thestatusquo
Titus

This is a list I like much more for 3-4 scum than what I was seeing early last night.

I've asked my team what they generally think of the players in that PoE. Bella told me to take Firebringer and Shea off the list. I get why but I'm going to leave them there anyway. They're probably the players I'd least expect to be scum in that group, but when I think 'who here is strong enough at scum to be rather likely to have me convinced they're town when they're not' Firebringer and TSQ are the top two that come to mind. So in the list they go!

But realistically the thing that my brain intuitively gets to with that list sort of looks like Dragon/Titus/Dunnstral/???
I'm good at reading Titus as town early on when she's scum. And Dunn's the player I mentioned earlier who could easily be scum but who I've left in the town bracket for funsies.

Anyway, off for now, be back to answer for my crimes in 3-4 hours? Have fun
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:04 pm

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I think it is best for the game that I don't try to explain what happened last night, it would only risk further disruption. You can ask me post-game if you want. Suffice to say, this was never my intention, and I apologize for the trouble I have caused.

Now, let us continue.
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:19 pm

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How are you not reading Titus as town
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:22 pm

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In post 2359, Klick wrote: - I had some dissonance on Black where I read some specific responses as very towny but felt that her overall tone over long stretches of time felt scummy/different from Hollow Knight. So I had a skim through her ISO in all of her completed games to get a more full picture. I read Black fairly strongly as town from it. I think her content here reads as much more genuine than in any of her scum games. I understand having a general vibe that she's trying to perform a bit and was starting to feel that a bit myself, but I think she has moments in this game that are closer to how she genuinely approaches solving games than I've seen in her scum games.
i haven't read any of blacks other games. But as far as i know black has only one scum game on the site? Someone correct me on that if im wrong.

So how ur defining her scum baseline behavior.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:30 pm

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In post 2362, Firebringer wrote: But as far as i know black has only one scum game on the site?
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I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:32 pm

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In post 2363, Black wrote:
In post 2362, Firebringer wrote: But as far as i know black has only one scum game on the site?
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you played 5 games here and uve already played scum 3 times. You lucky bastard
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:33 pm

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Individually I am reading Titus as town, that's why she was in my townreads

I'm not confident enough to say that could just be a poor read

Her early early game was strong but I'm lacking since basically then
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:34 pm

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In post 2362, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2359, Klick wrote: - I had some dissonance on Black where I read some specific responses as very towny but felt that her overall tone over long stretches of time felt scummy/different from Hollow Knight. So I had a skim through her ISO in all of her completed games to get a more full picture. I read Black fairly strongly as town from it. I think her content here reads as much more genuine than in any of her scum games. I understand having a general vibe that she's trying to perform a bit and was starting to feel that a bit myself, but I think she has moments in this game that are closer to how she genuinely approaches solving games than I've seen in her scum games.
i haven't read any of blacks other games. But as far as i know black has only one scum game on the site? Someone correct me on that if im wrong.

So how ur defining her scum baseline behavior.
She has like 3-4 scum games?
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:34 pm

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Klick are u going to make me do a meta homework assignment. I am supposed to be chilling on this blessed weekend
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:39 pm

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Tsk tsk
Have it on my desk by the end of the period or you'll lose marks
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:17 am

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In post 2355, Pink Ball wrote: Anyone up??? I just arrived from a wedding going to bed now have to wake up in 3 hours for the baby I am NOT happy
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:45 am

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So Feysal town etc
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:02 am

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In post 2370, GuyInFreezer wrote: So Feysal town etc
99.999% yes.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:30 am

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In post 2359, Klick wrote: But realistically the thing that my brain intuitively gets to with that list sort of looks like Dragon/Titus/Dunnstral/???
I'm good at reading Titus as town early on when she's scum. And Dunn's the player I mentioned earlier who could easily be scum but who I've left in the town bracket for funsies.
I feel like I have no business being on your proposed scum team if you think it's Dragon and Titus. This is a weird reevaluation.
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:34 am

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In post 2341, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 2334, Frozen Angel wrote: You faked agreeing with klick on that meta read

as you faked your read evolution on dun/fb

as you faked evaluating my read/case on you and having absolutely nothing to say about it when "self-aware" you that was everywhere in the early game if was with a town mindset would not let go of those points

as you faked your "team" scumreading me suddenly as a back track from your own read

as you faked "having a scum read on me now" to drop that vote without 0 evaluation on my slot/motivations/posts and just because I'm hard pushing you and for you to appear consistent

This is just an extremely nervous scum caught.

case closed
And that's why I am not bothering replying to your case on me. What can I say except "I didn't fake it?"
Is there even a way to prove that I genuinely agreed with Klick's metaread?
I never faked evaluating your read on me, because I never cared about your read on me. It's based on BS assumptions.
I never faked having a SR on you, I voted because I dislike your push and it's irritating, maddening even, and you are taunting me to vote you basically. Maybe you don't see it, but it feels that way.
I think that showing that you understand what Klick was saying would have gone a long way towards proving that you agreed with the read. Instead it feels like you were trying to avoid talking about it.
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:36 am

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I like the rest of your reads Klick.

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