TM 2023 | Mini Normal | Endgame

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 1.17

Freedom (4):

Malakittens, DeasVail, xofelf, mastina

Ausuka (3):

Aisa, DrippingGoofball, Shirou

ItalianoVD (2):

DkKoba, Ydrasse

DkKoba (1):

Kowahbunga

DrippingGoofball (1):

Ausuka

Not Voting (2): Freedom, ItalianoVD

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2023-04-26 08:34:25)

Mod Notes

• Kowahbunga v/la through 4/24

[Shirou]

VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom
VOTE: Freedom

[Shirou]

If Freedom is the one to replace Arko I WILL try to kill the slot because in my past games with Freedom he was very low activity and we need a high activity player here to compensate on the time lost with Arko not playing.

[Aisa]

I swear, Shirou, you, and… and your ridiculous levels of towniness and your hopping between wagons making me question everything

like c'mon she stays on italiano the entire game, I call it out, she begins to pivot on it near the flip and now is calling me sus again

it's like textbook getting ready to push me on italiano flipping town

On a serious note
1. The Italiano or Ausuka thing worried me briefly as well but I dismissed it quickly
2. I’m just not sure it’s an especially scummy thing to do. What’s scummy about it? I feel like town can have second thoughts towards the end of a day too? I don’t feel like scum have a special need to line up a push before the day ends?

[Malakittens]

I’d hate to say it but I’m still ok with an arko/freedom lim

[DkKoba]

i might not be around in the next 2 days(most of my online time will be for spectating champs as a jury member if anything atm, since these games are much slower paced i can afford to catch up later) VOTE: freedom and i dont want ausuka to go over here

[DkKoba]

the reason for my lack of activity is that my life has been a bit turbulent in the past few days, expect aggro koba day 2 if im around

[DeasVail]

UNVOTE:

[DrippingGoofball]

I could vote Arko/Freedom.

Is Arko normally lurkish? I'm sure someone answered that already but I'm sleep-deprived.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:

why

[DrippingGoofball]

I see Freedom has not posted.

[Shirou]

2. I’m just not sure it’s an especially scummy thing to do. What’s scummy about it? I feel like town can have second thoughts towards the end of a day too? I don’t feel like scum have a special need to line up a push before the day ends?

I disagree on it not being potentially scummy. Let's review what I consider the timeline:

>Ausuka scumreads Italiano in their engagement
> Italiano posts some AtE
> Most players begin to second guess themselves
> Ausuka dismiss the doubts about Italiano being scum
> I case/push Ausuka, with one of the arguments being how monotone her Italiano's read, her lack of focus on other slots, etc
> She starts to get less confident on Italiano's read
> I push the narrative of killing inside Ausuka vs Italiano today and tomorrow
> Deadline approaches
> Ausuka starts to disengage her 1v1 with Italiano and look elsewhere

Could this all be a coincidence from town!Ausuka? Sure, but to me it feels like she's worried about her long-term survival on insisting on Italiano, and doesn't want to look bad being in his wagon now either.

Ausuka said before that it just wasn't effective to wagon an inactive that had no votes on them, so what is she trying to accomplish by voting DGB so close to deadline when there's only two real viable wagons here other than herself?

I think she's trying to stay out of being in the town flip wagons. (I think she would bus here if either Arko or Italiano was scum with her, so a scum flip on one of them probably would make me reconsider my Ausuka read a bit by this point, /shrug)

[Shirou]

If scum can stay out of a wagon that will flip town, most will stay out of it/not be pushing it by the end.

They know it'll look bad on them in the next day. Vanity voting so close to deadline is slightly +scum in my book especially considering Ausuka said before there was no point voting people that weren't here/didn't have enough votes already.

[Shirou]

expect aggro koba day 2 if im around

expect me just shitposting then

I've already burned out all my energy on dealing with you and I don't want to be banned or turn the game into a complete shitshow

hopefully I'll be the NK though

[Shirou]

@Aisa

To summarize, tell me something Ausuka did since I cased her that isn't something scum!her would likely do? something that doesn't benefit her long-term survival/defense if she's scum?

I don't think it's that hard to imagine town!Ausuka could act this way post-case, but she has done precisely everything I would expect scum to do in her position here.

[Shirou]

[Ali's Thoughts]

Mastina - Ali seems to have a high opinion of Klick/Bella's reads and therefore agree with the scumread on her from what DeasVail shared about his teammates in 512

Ausuka - Posts are fine but they are also unremarkable/doesn't give a strong feeling which can often be where scum is, in the middle of readlists. There is an edge in her interactions with Ydra and Italiano that could be considered townie though. 534 could be overreacting

Koba - Conflicted on it, this read has the longest explanation but it's basically a big hedge because Ali considers some stuff potentially scummy and some stuff potentially towny in their ISO.

Ali likes italiano readlist and I (Shirou) have no idea why

Ali thinks Aisa's 619 is towny

Ydra 474 feels town maybe

She finishes it with a..."I tried".

[Shirou]

Ydra 474 feels town maybe

Ok checking it I noticed this isn't a Ydra post, idk what Ali is doing

I should perhaps post my readlist before day ends

[Shirou]

Readlist Edition#2:

"Just before the HSR's train departure. Will we ever be reunited again?"

[] - just town
[Ydrasse] - townlean
[DrippingGoofball, Aisa¹] - nulltown
[Mastina, ItalianoVD, Kowahbunga, Freedom, DkKoba, DeasVail, Xofelf] - null
[] - nullscum
[Malakittens] - scumlean
[Ausuka] - just scum

¹ = Aisa is up there but at the same time I feel like I could be wrong on her, she feels town but at the same time nothing that would surprise me to see coming from good scum. DGB is a similar case but I've been told she doesn't like to play scum so I'm factoring that into being more confident about my good feelings about her.

Ausuka/Mala has probably at least one scum imo? Not sure if they make sense together. Dunno where the rest would be atm if one flips scum.

[Malakittens]

Kuribo expressed not liking auksa in regards to dgb for the lurking comment. Mainly he disagrees that just become someone has a low post count doesn’t equate them being scum and scared of posting this should’nt be used on exp players bc it’s more often wrong than right

[Shirou]

Actually you know what?

It's time for a last minute attempt at DRIFTING boys

(meant sarcastically, I may be wrong ofc who fucking knows lol? mafia games are gacha in the end )

[Shirou]

VOTE: AUSUKA

LAST MINUTE JUSTICE WAGON HERE WE GO

[Shirou]

Let me do what I like do the most:

THREAD POLITICS

@ItalianoVD please can you sheep me on Ausuka here? It's either you, a lurker coinflip or her. If you don't side with me here I doubt I'll have the energy to fight Koba later if they protect her (gonna be focusing on playing a new released Honkai game from March 25th forward) so

It's either now or never I think, if Ausuka vs You happen again in D2 forward I'm probably gonna just shrug it and vote you, but we've a chance of flipping Ausuka as scum here and soft confirming you as town.

You're a risk-taker Italiano, I can FEEL it!

LET'S GO

[Shirou]

@Freedom

I'm voting either you or Ausuka so please

VOTE AUSUKA WITH US

It's not everyday you get the opportunity to attempt being a hero Freedom!

You don't wanna be out of TM so soon, do you?!

[Freedom]

@Freedom

I'm voting either you or Ausuka so please

VOTE AUSUKA WITH US

It's not everyday you get the opportunity to attempt being a hero Freedom!

You don't wanna be out of TM so soon, do you?!

Fine.
TBH I did ISO Ausuka.
I want to check her ISO with Mini 2294, first, though.

[Shirou]

That would be 5 votes if we managed to get it.

@Deasvail, Xofelf, Malakittens

Are you really that opposed to voting Ausuka here? Especially you Deasvail since you unvoted.