I still think kuribo is lying. I don't know what else to do but just state this plainly. I do not believe any of this.
That's a fair assertion to keep in mind. While I disagree with that, we don't rule it out. However, on day 3 (unless the roles keep swapping between Kuribo and Ircher) we should get somewhat solid confirmation if RNG is decent.
It's easy to feel like everyone is in over their head.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 2644, Titus wrote:
I'm here. Here's why Kuribo is smart to obfuscate on if the lover has actually posted in the PT unless they are in danger. A smart lover encourages Kuribo to lie.
Scenario 1: The lover is town - Scum don't know who the lover is. The lover could be Feysal or someone they feel is pocketed. Shooting Kuribo becomes a risk of eliminating a lover role without benefit (supposing dead slots mean the role goes away). If scum know who the lover is, then the risk for them goes way down and they can control the nightphase.
Scenario 2: The lover is scum - Scum shooting Kuribo just takes the lover role out of play for them.
Scenario 3: The lover is Keysal - See one.
The only person time town needs to know the lover is a) if they are at risk of elimination or b) they're a protective role.
The benefit of kuribo and Ircher's claim being backed up further brings more value than any of this stuff though
Who cares if scum can slightly optimise their N2 action in a town!kuribo world when we could actually get significantly further solving today by having the info now
Wouldn't that just mean Ircher and kuribo are scum? Why would they ever make that play? Kuribo didn't even need to claim when he did so do we really think that's the plan they came up with?
am i just the only one who sees posts by black like this to be scummy.
that first sentence is just so!!!!!!!!
why are u asking questions like this. It feels like scum uncertain if they can push looking for reassurance.
And you did it yesterday too.
That's been a huge issue I have had with Black. Words but no solid position. I'm willing to give a little room for Black today on mech but Black is my primary suspect.
Drixx's last claim post does check.
Incredibly stupid
but checks. It could be scum aware of a loyal role in existence but a gambit if it is. Willing to let it go for now.
"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 2644, Titus wrote:
I'm here. Here's why Kuribo is smart to obfuscate on if the lover has actually posted in the PT unless they are in danger. A smart lover encourages Kuribo to lie.
Scenario 1: The lover is town - Scum don't know who the lover is. The lover could be Feysal or someone they feel is pocketed. Shooting Kuribo becomes a risk of eliminating a lover role without benefit (supposing dead slots mean the role goes away). If scum know who the lover is, then the risk for them goes way down and they can control the nightphase.
Scenario 2: The lover is scum - Scum shooting Kuribo just takes the lover role out of play for them.
Scenario 3: The lover is Keysal - See one.
The only person time town needs to know the lover is a) if they are at risk of elimination or b) they're a protective role.
The benefit of kuribo and Ircher's claim being backed up further brings more value than any of this stuff though
Who cares if scum can slightly optimise their N2 action in a town!kuribo world when we could actually get significantly further solving today by having the info now
We get plenty far today by not giving scum information. Your pleading today is scummy af.
If Kuribo or his lover aren't wagoned, then town doesn't need the information.
Data from votes, from pushes is what we need.
Funny, how do you have Black so high on your reads?
Wouldn't that just mean Ircher and kuribo are scum? Why would they ever make that play? Kuribo didn't even need to claim when he did so do we really think that's the plan they came up with?
am i just the only one who sees posts by black like this to be scummy.
that first sentence is just so!!!!!!!!
why are u asking questions like this. It feels like scum uncertain if they can push looking for reassurance.
And you did it yesterday too.
That's been a huge issue I have had with Black. Words but no solid position. I'm willing to give a little room for Black today on mech but Black is my primary suspect.
Drixx's last claim post does check.
Incredibly stupid
but checks. It could be scum aware of a loyal role in existence but a gambit if it is. Willing to let it go for now.
You say the nicest things.
I do. I apologize. That was a bit harsh. The move still wasn't smart but I could have communicated that less harshly and with more respect. I was frustrated because I expect better of you.
In post 2658, Klick wrote:
I have a game somewhere in the depths of my memory where kuribo intentionally claimed Masons with a scumbuddy early on as a gambit
Like this exact play has precedent as a fakeclaim by kuribo
At least I think I'm remembering that right
ignore the claims and mechanics for a hot second and engage in alisae points on blue snek/ircher town
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
Klick im shocked u think that kuribo decided to claim masons day 1 with his ally (Ircher) then u think scum!ircher went along with the fake claim masons. Only for kuribo to backtrack today that no they aren't masons they are lovers.
Like either this is scum!kuribo using Ircher as a fall guy for his death or they are both town. I can't see this as being moves scum!ircher takes when he confirms the masons claim.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
Wouldn't that just mean Ircher and kuribo are scum? Why would they ever make that play? Kuribo didn't even need to claim when he did so do we really think that's the plan they came up with?
am i just the only one who sees posts by black like this to be scummy.
that first sentence is just so!!!!!!!!
why are u asking questions like this. It feels like scum uncertain if they can push looking for reassurance.
And you did it yesterday too.
That's been a huge issue I have had with Black. Words but no solid position. I'm willing to give a little room for Black today on mech but Black is my primary suspect.
Drixx's last claim post does check.
Incredibly stupid
but checks. It could be scum aware of a loyal role in existence but a gambit if it is. Willing to let it go for now.
You say the nicest things.
I do. I apologize. That was a bit harsh. The move still wasn't smart but I could have communicated that less harshly and with more respect. I was frustrated because I expect better of you.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
Wouldn't that just mean Ircher and kuribo are scum? Why would they ever make that play? Kuribo didn't even need to claim when he did so do we really think that's the plan they came up with?
am i just the only one who sees posts by black like this to be scummy.
that first sentence is just so!!!!!!!!
why are u asking questions like this. It feels like scum uncertain if they can push looking for reassurance.
And you did it yesterday too.
That's been a huge issue I have had with Black. Words but no solid position. I'm willing to give a little room for Black today on mech but Black is my primary suspect.
Drixx's last claim post does check.
Incredibly stupid
but checks. It could be scum aware of a loyal role in existence but a gambit if it is. Willing to let it go for now.
You say the nicest things.
I do. I apologize. That was a bit harsh. The move still wasn't smart but I could have communicated that less harshly and with more respect. I was frustrated because I expect better of you.
I'm not even sure what you felt was bad or why.
Using the word stupid was wrong. I apologize for that.
In post 2641, Firebringer wrote:
Klick, alisae is bullying me and told me to tell u that e is very certain that Ircher is town.
Why? Help me see it
alisae says the post where dropped a few read and were like 2 are asias reads seemed town and the wy engaged with people on black seemed town and the vote and unvote on shea is how town would go about game.
blue snek isn't playing to a team
I mean I also thought BlueSnakelet looked pretty towny
I dont think the Ircher read stuff is that conclusive
I think the better point in Ircher's favor is that he was completely disinterested in the Mason claim stuff
I guess giving reads up to Page 7 isn't something scum really feels compelled to do but town does because they actually want to get their actual reads out
And Ircher didn't feel like he was that phased by his position in the game
"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
In post 2668, Drixx wrote:
Can't help but notice nearly no claims, but lots of posts.
Because it's the right move. If we have something to say, we have something to say.
If someone has a role, they could crumb it in case anyone needs to see it. No need to mass claim. You should know there's an obvious way to do it without claiming. Fire even revealed it in a way.
Wouldn't that just mean Ircher and kuribo are scum? Why would they ever make that play? Kuribo didn't even need to claim when he did so do we really think that's the plan they came up with?
am i just the only one who sees posts by black like this to be scummy.
that first sentence is just so!!!!!!!!
why are u asking questions like this. It feels like scum uncertain if they can push looking for reassurance.
And you did it yesterday too.
That's been a huge issue I have had with Black. Words but no solid position. I'm willing to give a little room for Black today on mech but Black is my primary suspect.
Drixx's last claim post does check.
Incredibly stupid
but checks. It could be scum aware of a loyal role in existence but a gambit if it is. Willing to let it go for now.
You say the nicest things.
I do. I apologize. That was a bit harsh. The move still wasn't smart but I could have communicated that less harshly and with more respect. I was frustrated because I expect better of you.
I'm not even sure what you felt was bad or why.
Using the word stupid was wrong. I apologize for that.
That still doesn't help me understand what you thought was bad, or why. Can you shed some light on that?
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
